Opinion Round 5: Teams and In Game Discussions

[FirstTimer]

LIVE SCORES FROM THE CURRENT MATCH

HALF TIME

MELBOURNE 11.3.69

PLAYER SUPERCOACH


11 Max Gawn 120
12 Dom Tyson 66
4 Jack Watts 59
32 Tomas Bugg 57
23 Bernie Vince 49
3 Christian Salem 48
7 Jack Viney 47
8 Heritier Lumumba 43
14 Lynden Dunn 43
25 Tom McDonald 43
42 Josh Wagner 42
16 Dean Kent 36
10 Angus Brayshaw 34
29 Jayden Hunt 34
2 Nathan Jones 33
39 Neville Jetta 28
35 Ben Kennedy 27
21 Cameron Pedersen 25
36 Jeff Garlett 25
1 Jesse Hogan 19
17 Sam Frost 13
43 James Harmes 12
TOTAL903

RICHMOND 7.5.47

PLAYER SUPERCOACH

18 Alex Rance 62
26 Anthony Miles 53
27 Sam Lloyd 52
8 Jack Riewoldt 46
6 Shaun Grigg 40
20 Ivan Maric 38
4 Dustin Martin 37
25 Troy Chaplin 36
9 Trent Cotchin 34
12 David Astbury 31
29 Ty Vickery 29
10 Shane Edwards 28
17 Daniel Rioli 26
5 Brandon Ellis 23
14 Bachar Houli 22
33 Kamdyn McIntosh 21
11 Jake Batchelor 15
38 Steven Morris 15
21 Jacob Townsend 11
23 Kane Lambert 11
37 Connor Menadue 7
32 Corey Ellis 7
TOTAL644
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[Eagling]

Gawn seems amazing. Might even push Goldy for R1 if he keeps this up. But I can't justify a trade of a decently performing ruckman just to get him in; I chose Goldy and Martin; and Martin has been fine up until the last two weeks, but we can forgive him; seeing as he got Koed and was probably not at his best yesterday. All power to those who picked Gawn, but doing these sideways trades is asking for trouble, IMO.

 

[BC]

Houli doing his best to even up the fact i made ground as a non fyfe owner. Pull your finger ***

 

[Maso]

Gawn seems amazing. Might even push Goldy for R1 if he keeps this up. But I can't justify a trade of a decently performing ruckman just to get him in; I chose Goldy and Martin; and Martin has been fine up until the last two weeks, but we can forgive him; seeing as he got Koed and was probably not at his best yesterday. All power to those who picked Gawn, but doing these sideways trades is asking for trouble, IMO.

i hear what ya saying but im thinking nicnat to gawn even if its just to stop gawn !

 

[Ben's Beasts]

The Beard.

Do you fear it yet?

 

[anfa18]

I dont think anyone can defend rances extremely highly inflated score.

I'll defend it. 11 disposals with 7 contested @ 70% DE, 3 marks with 2 contested, 3 R50, 1 free kick FOR, 0 free kicks AGAINST, 2 tackles, 5 1%ers, 1 goal assist and 3-5 spoils. If the free kicks against actually go onto his stat sheet, then he should lose 10-15 points.

As i said in a previous post, Rance seems to get "over scored" because he gets a good amount of his score from "unseen" places like spoils and 1%ers. He also has 2 contested marks from opposition kicks which score well.

 

[Drew]

Gawn seems amazing. Might even push Goldy for R1 if he keeps this up. But I can't justify a trade of a decently performing ruckman just to get him in; I chose Goldy and Martin; and Martin has been fine up until the last two weeks, but we can forgive him; seeing as he got Koed and was probably not at his best yesterday. All power to those who picked Gawn, but doing these sideways trades is asking for trouble, IMO.

What if some of us happen to own Jacobs? It's been observed on here that he's playing ok but not getting the SC points, Gawn looking mighty tempting as sideways as that is!

 

[bomberboy]

I can empathize with those who don't have Gawn atm, it's how I feel every time I see Goldstein going ham. Closeish game as well so hopefully he keeps going!

 

[KLo30]

Yep, have Ben Ken and Gawn in this game. Was hoping for 200 between them.
Looking good at the moment, a 180 from Max and a 20 from ben ken.

I'm with you on this wild ride.

 

[Philzsay]

What if some of us happen to own Jacobs? It's been observed on here that he's playing ok but not getting the SC points, Gawn looking mighty tempting as sideways as that is!

I'm very tempted to do that trade, going to cost us about 100k though. Have Fyfe to deal with as well..... going to need to make some tough decisions this week.

 

[dicksilverman]

Holy hell Gawn!

 

[Eagling]

What if some of us happen to own Jacobs? It's been observed on here that he's playing ok but not getting the SC points, Gawn looking mighty tempting as sideways as that is!

Jacobs is a borderline issue; I don't have him, so I haven't been paying attention to his scores, but isn't he pretty much guaranteed the #1 ruck spot at Adelaide. He's probably right on the border of what I would consider a decent trade. If you want to replace a Nicholls, Lobbe, Zac Smith type; sure, go for Gawn.

I would not trade any one of Goldstein, Nic Nat, Martin for Gawn; Jacobs is borderline, but I'd back him to have his day in the sun later on.

Of course, I had Goldstein last year from the start, so I didn't have to watch a ruckman dominate while I didn't have him.

 

[Prochard]

I'll defend it. 11 disposals with 7 contested @ 70% DE, 3 marks with 2 contested, 3 R50, 1 free kick FOR, 0 free kicks AGAINST, 2 tackles, 5 1%ers, 1 goal assist and 3-5 spoils. If the free kicks against actually go onto his stat sheet, then he should lose 10-15 points.

As i said in a previous post, Rance seems to get "over scored" because he gets a good amount of his score from "unseen" places like spoils and 1%ers. He also has 2 contested marks from opposition kicks which score well.

I dont think you've taken into account the fact that 3 of Rance's kicks went straight on the full. It's worse to have a clanger kick by itself than the combination of an effective kick+free kick against. Talking about "unseen" stats, there are two sides to it. On one hand, we do not have access to his spoil numbers, but on the other many CLEAR clangers are also not registered, and those that were actually positively contribtued to his score. If you're so keen in defending him, would you like to explain why he got +4 to 5 from 3 clanger kicks when Houli got -3 from 1 clanger kick?

 

[Rowsus]

Does anyone know priddis new price and be? If it's not too large I might bring him in for Fyfe.

Not sure of his new BE but he should be around $582k after this weeks 87.

He had a BE of 163 and got no where near it so his new BE will be pretty large.

My rough calculations say $575,800 and B/E 139

Does anyone know what Weiterings new price and breakeven will be?

$361,500 B/E 81

 

[Nathan]

I dont think anyone can defend rances extremely highly inflated score.

Hard to argue when you are the only one with the full detailed scoring system in front you.

 

[THCLT]

Hate to say it but I don't think Menadue is up to AFL standards.

Looked completely lost on the ground and when he does have the ball, does nothing with it. Need to go back to the 2's to regain some bad needed touch and confidence.

I'll be surprised to see his name in the teams next week.

 

[Adrenaline]

My rough calculations say $575,800 and B/E 139



$361,500 B/E 81

Awesome thank row. I'm jumping on priddis I think he plays Collingwood next and loves playing them.

 

[Diabolical]

The Beard.

Do you fear it yet?

Absolutely - I look Gawn in every match up where my opponent has him!!

 

[Drew]

Jacobs is a borderline issue; I don't have him, so I haven't been paying attention to his scores, but isn't he pretty much guaranteed the #1 ruck spot at Adelaide. He's probably right on the border of what I would consider a decent trade. If you want to replace a Nicholls, Lobbe, Zac Smith type; sure, go for Gawn.

I would not trade any one of Goldstein, Nic Nat, Martin for Gawn; Jacobs is borderline, but I'd back him to have his day in the sun later on.

Of course, I had Goldstein last year from the start, so I didn't have to watch a ruckman dominate while I didn't have him.

He's had 5 scores so far all between 64 and 95 including 75 this week. Hardly premo scoring and i'm losing faith unfortunately, just doesn't look promising!

 

[KLo30]

Rance now has one Free against and lost 4 points from half time. Gawn also lost a couple of points. And the points don't go close to 1600 combined.