Ruck Coverage Strategy

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Not much has changed in the last month for mine. Still have no idea what I will do.
 
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Best thing to do is find a loan ruckman such as mumford and injure him so we get a cheap r2 option
 

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I like the Rowsus strategy. Buying the 'key' but having no 'lock' as such until later. I will take this route too!

The main risk with this strategy is if your ruck man gets injured within the first 5-6 rounds (before your rookies have matured enough). Then you wouldn't have enough funds to bring in a Lycett/TBC/Ryder in your forward line for a rookie. If NicNat/Berger/Goldy/Maric are injured early it would result in a sideways trade of one of your rucks or forwards. If they don't, you can simply wait until they miss games then bring in the 'lock'.

Starting TBC/Lycett/Ryder is no guarantee of ruck cover because they themselves could get injured! I'd rather deal with potential injuries as they come than be speculative.
 
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Keep an eye on this weekends game against Port. Nic Nat most likely resting again and Sinclair out with a broken thumb so Lycett will have a chance to show everyone how good he is.
I think I read somewhere that Sinclair might only miss 4 weeks with the broken thumb. If this is the case then this may create some uncertainty re Lycett after the first 1 or 2 rounds anyway (assuming that Lycett/Sinclair are line ball to get a game rather than Lycett as the more likely of the two to get a game).
 
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Had Ryder in my forward line for a week. I hope he can av. @ 95 and be good enough for f.6. If one of my rucks miss a week or two here or there will help pay his way over a donut.
 
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I like the Rowsus strategy. Buying the 'key' but having no 'lock' as such until later. I will take this route too!

The main risk with this strategy is if your ruck man gets injured within the first 5-6 rounds (before your rookies have matured enough). Then you wouldn't have enough funds to bring in a Lycett/TBC/Ryder in your forward line for a rookie. If NicNat/Berger/Goldy/Maric are injured early it would result in a sideways trade of one of your rucks or forwards. If they don't, you can simply wait until they miss games then bring in the 'lock'.

Starting TBC/Lycett/Ryder is no guarantee of ruck cover because they themselves could get injured! I'd rather deal with potential injuries as they come than be speculative.
The lock you bring in can also get injured the first week you get him
 
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Had Ryder in my forward line for a week. I hope he can av. @ 95 and be good enough for f.6. If one of my rucks miss a week or two here or there will help pay his way over a donut.
As rowsus said somewhere just remember your f7 covers the donut not ryder lol
 
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As rowsus said somewhere just remember your f7 covers the donut not ryder lol
Exactly right. Is that extra 50-60 you get for a week here or there worth it? Maybe not if the choice comes to picking Bartel or Ryder. Bartel everytime.
 
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Exactly right. Is that extra 50-60 you get for a week here or there worth it? Maybe not if the choice comes to picking Bartel or Ryder. Bartel everytime.
I picked Hale last year as cover in the Fwd line for Cox and Sandi in the Ruck. I don't think I ever got to use him for cover and he leaked points in my Fwd line. I know it doesn't always work out like that, but it has made me cautious of the Fwd Ruc cover approach.
 

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I currently have Rory Lobb at R3. I reckon he will play for GWS, therefore giving me a playing ruck reserve. If not it's not the end of the world, before lockout I'll out swap him for a cheapie and have extra cash to use elsewhere or save in the bank.
 

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From r13-23 he played 9 games for an average of 90.6 ppg, also played 3 games early in the season for a 39.3 ppg average.
Underpriced for me, no Cox and WC have shown that both of thier Rucks can average well.
Priced at 77 if he can go at 90 like the end of last year he can cover F6,7 for the year as well as Ruck if he needs to (all going to plan).
Of course, he went at 90 under the old ruck scoring system.
 
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From r13-23 he played 9 games for an average of 90.6 ppg, also played 3 games early in the season for a 39.3 ppg average.
Underpriced for me, no Cox and WC have shown that both of their Rucks can average well.
Priced at 77 if he can go at 90 like the end of last year he can cover F6,7 for the year as well as Ruck if he needs to (all going to plan).
Well said. A lot of people seem to be doubting Lycett's ability to score well with Nic Nat as lead ruck... In those Round 13-23 games he played 3 of those games with 3 ruckmen!!... In those 3 games he averaged 86.66. In that period he also played 4 of those games with just him and Nic Nat for an average of 92.25.

The other point is those games from Round 13-23 where just his 14th-22nd career games!!

He is young, hungry to play regular AFL footy, and now has the opportunity. He will not go backwards in his average.

People are way to carried away with Sinclair's first 2 pre-season games. He is not the next Simon Madden or Dean Cox, and won't be rushed into the team as soon as he is fit again. Lycett will have to play some seriously bad footy for a fair period of time before he is dropped. He along with NN are our ruck future.
 
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Well said. A lot of people seem to be doubting Lycett's ability to score well with Nic Nat as lead ruck... In those Round 13-23 games he played 3 of those games with 3 ruckmen!!... In those 3 games he averaged 86.66. In that period he also played 4 of those games with just him and Nic Nat for an average of 92.25.

The other point is those games from Round 13-23 where just his 14th-22nd career games!!

He is young, hungry to play regular AFL footy, and now has the opportunity. He will not go backwards in his average.

People are way to carried away with Sinclair's first 2 pre-season games. He is not the next Simon Madden or Dean Cox, and won't be rushed into the team as soon as he is fit again. Lycett will have to play some seriously bad footy for a fair period of time before he is dropped. He along with NN are our ruck future.
Hope you're right. If I go a R/F link/cover from the start, Lycett will be in for me at F4 (rather than TBC). Have had him (Lycett) there since my first team. Just have to decide if I go that way. Thanks for the info.
 
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Exactly right. Is that extra 50-60 you get for a week here or there worth it? Maybe not if the choice comes to picking Bartel or Ryder. Bartel everytime.
Correct so if you only need him for say 2 games that's a gain of 120 points. But if you were to have a prem fwd there instead averaging 10 ppg better then you would be 200 points better than the dpp ruckman. So in reality you lose out 80 points over the season unless you can have him at f7 by rd 15 not completely unrealistic but is highly unlikely that you would have 22 a grade prems by then and be concerntrateing on bench cover players
 

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The lock you bring in can also get injured the first week you get him
Completely true. My point was, if you start with the lock and they are injured prematurely and unable to cover your ruck donut in that time of need, you need a trade either way.
Best wait for the time of need and bring in whoever's available that week.
 

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I've pretty much made Bellchambers my F3-F4-F5-F6

However, might do a sneaky R2....

No idea...LOL
 

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Correct so if you only need him for say 2 games that's a gain of 120 points. But if you were to have a prem fwd there instead averaging 10 ppg better then you would be 200 points better than the dpp ruckman. So in reality you lose out 80 points over the season unless you can have him at f7 by rd 15 not completely unrealistic but is highly unlikely that you would have 22 a grade prems by then and be concerntrateing on bench cover players
It's very important to compare apples with apples. I think conservatively Lycett can average 80-85, this season, and more likely high 80's. To get 10 ppg better you need to find a 95 ppg player AT Lycett's price! If you have a 95 ppg Fwd at $420k I would love for you to share who it is. Keeping in mind that the higher end Rucks average missing 2 games per season, and if you use Lycett 4 times to facilitate coverage for your R1/R2 you are actually in essence adding around 4 x 60 = 240 to Lycett's value, which makes him a 95 ppg player anyway. This assumes there is no rookie coverage in the Rucks, and you don't want to trade your way around a missing R1/R2.
 
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I have a 95 forward under 400k :)
It's very important to compare apples with apples. I think conservatively Lycett can average 80-85, this season, and more likely high 80's. To get 10 ppg better you need to find a 95 ppg player AT Lycett's price! If you have a 95 ppg Fwd at $420k I would love for you to share who it is. Keeping in mind that the higher end Rucks average missing 2 games per season, and if you use Lycett 4 times to facilitate coverage for your R1/R2 you are actually in essence adding around 4 x 60 = 240 to Lycett's value, which makes him a 95 ppg player anyway. This assumes there is no rookie coverage in the Rucks, and you don't want to trade your way around a missing R1/R2.
 
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There are three I'm contemplating they are
Tom Mitchell
Dale Thomas
Michael Walters
All will reach 90 at least I think
 
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