Position SC 2021: Forward Discussion
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Yeah that's not half bad.. jury is still out on Cahill being a viable pick so having him out of the team for now doesn't matter much. Easy to get him back in if you need.. you can almost weigh up Cahill vs the M7/M8 and put dusty in over whichever is weakest. Heppell at M6 gives a good mmid balance between strong scoring and room to bring in the best over the year.
Don't mind it at all as an overall structure!
Don't mind it at all as an overall structure!
I guess the thing is if Cahill (or another forward rookie looks a must have) can just swing Dusty to start in the mids.
Similar if I place Laird in defence.
Although I am struggling to think of 2 defender rookies for my bench that will play let alone a D5 & D6 playing rookie , so that could be a problem.
Structure essential allows 2 rookies onfield in D & M & 1 F.
Anymore and I am probably going to mid price , 5 rookies + Heppell and Z/D/I already means 9 upgrades which probably takes 13.5 downgrades to do.
mmm 7.5 spare trades for corrections/injuries.....gulp
Similar if I place Laird in defence.
Although I am struggling to think of 2 defender rookies for my bench that will play let alone a D5 & D6 playing rookie , so that could be a problem.
Structure essential allows 2 rookies onfield in D & M & 1 F.
Anymore and I am probably going to mid price , 5 rookies + Heppell and Z/D/I already means 9 upgrades which probably takes 13.5 downgrades to do.
mmm 7.5 spare trades for corrections/injuries.....gulp
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25 trades for a full team and only 5 spare seems scary, but we always get 1-2 fallen prems due to injury that end up far cheaper than an upgrade should be, and a couple of rookies surpass expectations and give a little extra cash than budgeted for.. so it'll all work out! But agree you're probably around the limit..
A lot of the 13 "premium" teams I've seen have 3-4 players that I don't see being in the top group for their position so theoretically they need 9 rookie upgrades and 2-3 sideways upgrades.. so you're not in too bad a position all up.
A lot of the 13 "premium" teams I've seen have 3-4 players that I don't see being in the top group for their position so theoretically they need 9 rookie upgrades and 2-3 sideways upgrades.. so you're not in too bad a position all up.
Hmmm, very tempting to take him as a starter with all the question marks on the other fwd premiums :-
Dustin Martin is on track to continue his outstanding stint as the competition's preeminent matchwinner, with Hardwick saying he had blitzed the pre-season with a focus on improving his fitness.
"I'm worried he's too far ahead. He's training that well at the moment. He's been incredible," Hardwick told AFL.com.au.
"He's one of these guys who surprises me every year, Dustin. You generally think of the superstars of the competition that they come in and they do what they do, but there's a reason they're superstars.
"They generally work harder and are better at things that other players aren't, and he tries to improve one part of his game every year. This year I think he's taken on some noticeable improvement in his fitness. He's trying to improve that part of his game and he's training really, really well at the moment.
"I couldn't be happier with where he's at. Like I said, I'm worried he's too far ahead of the game. I've got to slow him down a little bit because he's his own worst enemy with how he works."
Dustin Martin is on track to continue his outstanding stint as the competition's preeminent matchwinner, with Hardwick saying he had blitzed the pre-season with a focus on improving his fitness.
"I'm worried he's too far ahead. He's training that well at the moment. He's been incredible," Hardwick told AFL.com.au.
"He's one of these guys who surprises me every year, Dustin. You generally think of the superstars of the competition that they come in and they do what they do, but there's a reason they're superstars.
"They generally work harder and are better at things that other players aren't, and he tries to improve one part of his game every year. This year I think he's taken on some noticeable improvement in his fitness. He's trying to improve that part of his game and he's training really, really well at the moment.
"I couldn't be happier with where he's at. Like I said, I'm worried he's too far ahead of the game. I've got to slow him down a little bit because he's his own worst enemy with how he works."
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I don't think it'll impact how they use Dusty - he's a superstar so any reduction in mid time wasn't because of better players ahead of him. He'll still get the same mid/fwd split imo and the Prestia injury will likely open the door for some additional minutes to some of the players lower in the pecking order (Ross if he comes in, Bolton may get a couple more.. those types).
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It's certainly tempting. My hesitation is that you've got 3 LTI bounce backs and then a group of unproven rookies. One injury and a 1-2 rookies being dropped and you are in a world of pain. The rest of the team looks pretty great with Ziebel at F1 but I reckon you playing with fire not having a starting set up that could sustain scording even with non-scoring players at F7 and F8
Just had a look at CBAs in 2020 and scoring in 2018 and 2020 (Prestia played every game in 2019).
It looks like Dusty averaged c. 10% fewer CBAs (ie from 70s down to 60s in % terms) last year when Prestia played, and his SC average may be a few points higher when Prestia misses. Not a lot in it, and others are likely greater beneficiaries as you suggest. Might help a fraction though.
Worth flagging that Richmond had heaps of mids missing at times last year.
It looks like Dusty averaged c. 10% fewer CBAs (ie from 70s down to 60s in % terms) last year when Prestia played, and his SC average may be a few points higher when Prestia misses. Not a lot in it, and others are likely greater beneficiaries as you suggest. Might help a fraction though.
Worth flagging that Richmond had heaps of mids missing at times last year.
That's interesting - good stats. There is probably 2 factors in 2021 that I think throw a spanner in the works.. 1. reduced interchange cap meaning they may rest Dusty forward more than most given his obvious abilities there, and 2. Richmond have a few fringe mids who look ready for that next step and are ripe to take the opportunity. I can see Bolton being a huge beneficiary of Prestia's injury, but also think given it's early in the season it represents a great chance to give these guys some strong opportunities.
Speaking to one of my mates who is an avid tigers supporter he reckons there is a strong chance Dusty plays 100% TOG next season - especially in light of his preseason fitness levels, so if that happens his average will hopefully go up either way!
Speaking to one of my mates who is an avid tigers supporter he reckons there is a strong chance Dusty plays 100% TOG next season - especially in light of his preseason fitness levels, so if that happens his average will hopefully go up either way!
