Opinion SC 2021: Rate My Team

[pizza safety]

Solid train of thought by my reasoning. Likely playing in a better side now than in his peak year too. My biggest worry is he plays true forward pocket, as much as that is a position at all anymore, but that wasn’t the case over the weekend.

If he can string 8 together there’s every chance you get a decent rookies worth of cash gen out of him.

I'd say that in 2018 he transformed from a forward pocket into a flanker and that was his best year (when he was out on the park!) based on everything I've read and seen he's playing the same role as Butters/Rozee, drifting up from half-forward up the ground. if you keep him in a pocket I don't feel you'll be utilising his skill set fully. I think it's more likely that Rozee plays the deeper forward role with his foot issue when he comesback and Fantasia should have that role whilst Rozee is out, for 2-3 weeks or so.

 

[wogitalia]

That's old school, 10 years ago we were always starting rookie rucks

The bigger change is 10 years ago we had 4 ruck spots. Double the chance of rookie coverage means you have a lot more chances to actually hit the ruck rookie that works.

Mate, if you go with Flynn at R2 then you must have some seriously big cajones

Gawn plays his favourite teams historically to start with.

Stats courtesy of @Connoisseur :-

RD1: Avg VS Freo since 2015: 136.2 from 5
RD2: Avg VS StK since 2015: 118 from 11
RD3: Avg VS GWS since 2015: 135.17 from 6
RD4: Avg VS Geel since 2015: 103.57 from 7
RD5: Avg VS Haw since 2015: 141.4 from 5
RD6: Avg VS Rich since 2015: 150.6 from 5
RD7: Avg VS NM since 2015: 138.4 from 5

Last 3 matches against each side:
132+151+151
135+133+126
150+149+156
141+116+93
185+127+112
163+134+145
212+117+111
= 139.95 from 21 (1/21 below 100, 16/21 120+, 7/21 150+)

So effectively, if he starts with a bang, sustains his huge scoring v these teams, you are going to be well behind the pack chasing tail.

You can't win SC with your starting side but you can certainly put yourself out of the running by taking too much risk - I feel no Gawn is taking too much risk personally.

On Danger, the way he looked & with Cameron now at the cats so set to play majority midfield time, I think he is a must have.

With Lloyd missing on the weekend with a knee issue & being overpriced (how much does Campbell being in the team effect him/ does Dawson take more kick ins this year?) , I think downgrading him to free up the cash to get Danger in is the way to go.

Sorry if that sounds a little harsh but I wanted to give you an honest appraisal of your team - you have put so much valuable time & effort into reviewing all the games for everyone here that you deserve critical feedback (after all these years I know you are a big boy & can take criticism lol). Just would hate to see your team really struggle in the early stages by not starting Gawn & Danger - if both do start slowly then yes you would be laughing but I would be backing both in myself.

Just my thoughts anyway

You're mean, I'm going home

Cheers mate, appreciate it.

Logic on Gawn is that if he average 139 he only breaks even, captaincy aside, per $ Flynn at 35 would actually be more productive on field, assumes I spend every dollar wisely though and get equal value, given nearly every pick I've made has a value play involved I'd hope to go close! This does ignore that he's going to be a nightmare upgrade in this scenario and that I do need to get him in sooner rather than later.

Could spin the same tail on Danger as with Lloyd but ideally if the rookies show up from left field I would flip Lloyd to Danger up forward and have a bit more balance. I'm not huge on the Lloyd pick for value but I think he's still the top back on paper and leaving just one slot for all of Lloyd, Whitfield, Ridley and Mills, who I think are all very solid bets of being the top back on averages, would be very risky. As it is with 5 I'm kind of backing Lloyd/Laird to be the top guys and that the other 3 are in the 100-105 second tier and hoping it's kind of a nebulous blob of a dozen or so and that there are no clear other elite tier premiums.

FWIW, totally agree and mostly experimenting for now, though I must say I do want to go with the two rookie rucks if they're in play.

It will probably end up being Briggs in round one, killing this strategy, but also killing the option of Lloyd to Danger while getting me the on-field rookie back

 

[Herbie66]

The only rookies on field are R1 & R2 😀

D: LAIRD * , DANIEL , STEWART , SHORT , Z WILLIAMS , DUGGAN / Briggs * , Koschitzke

M: MERRETT , DANGERFIELD * , BOAK , CRIPPS , ROWELL , TARANTO , CALDWELL * , Dow * / Brockman * , Downie , Gulden

R: Fullarton * , Flynn / Meek

F: BAILEY * , PHILLIPS * , Fantasia * , Ziebell , Daniher , Impey / Rowe , Treacy *

BANK: $ 83,700.00

 

[Crowls]

team 05 50k bank
dropped lloyd to an upgrade, overvalued and think dawson will kick out, campbell be the distributer from backline for swans.
dropped neale, also upgrade target (no 1), cripps to walsh, t green to taranto
stayed with grawndy
gone danger dunk, dropped dusty to upgrade

laird, ridley, daniel, clark, h young, jones, kosi highmore
oliver, macrea, zerrett, walsh, taranto, campbell, powell, gulden, sharp brookman downie
gawn, grundy, flynn
dangerfield, dunkley, ziebel, daniher, warner, waterman, treacy, rowe

 

[The Banker]

First team post of the preseason. Hopefully not too much shuffling from here. Hoping that Tyson can provide a bit more depth to a midfield that’s not batting deep, so hopefully he gets named. If he doesn’t then I may pocket the cash, as I will struggle to get Taranto up to an uber-premo, and at this stage it’s still a guess as to which one.

D: Lloyd, Laird, Daniel, Stewart, Short, Idun (Kosi, Highmore)
M: Macrae, Merrett, Wines, Taranto, Tyson, Clark, Powell, Downie (Brockman, Gulden, Scott)
R: Gawn, Grundy (Flynn)
F: Phillips, Caldwell, Ziebell, Daniher, Campbell, Warner (Bergman, Rowe)

 

[Erek22]

I think I am stopping here until round 1 announcements (as I am pointlessly rebuilding my team with not a lot of difference )

 

[Drew]

@Herbie66 So I said I was bullish on Cam Rayner and now he’s properly broken! Should’ve kept my mouth shut!

 

[Herbie66]

I think I am stopping here until round 1 announcements (as I am pointlessly rebuilding my team with not a lot of difference )
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Tsapatolis seems very odd considering the discussions about Flynn & Meek especially plus Fullarton , Hunter & Treacy as possible playing options as well.

Doubt Chugg plays either so possibly a $$$ issue.

 

[Herbie66]

@Herbie66 So I said I was bullish on Cam Rayner and now he’s properly broken! Should’ve kept my mouth shut!

Poor kid , everything was looking good as well.

Just got to take a punt on the other Lion breakout contenders now 😀

At least Rayner will be cheaper next year.

 

[Herbie66]

Had a team last night with all of Daniher , de Goey , Fyfe , Greene , Kelly & Williams.

Potential was huge , just a matter of timing before they all break again and if I would have 6 spare trades.

 

[BigRuss]

So this is where I'm at

Judge away

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Love the Wines pick, full pre season for the first time in 4 years and he’s worked really hard on his outside game while dropping some weight. Really good chance to push up over 110 I reckon.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Love the Wines pick, full ore season for the first time in 4 years and he’s worked really hard on his outside game while dropping some weight. Really good chance to push up over 110 I reckon.

Been able to squeeze in that 5th 'keeper' mid yet, mate?

 

[Erek22]

Tsapatolis seems very odd considering the discussions about Flynn & Meek especially plus Fullarton , Hunter & Treacy as possible playing options as well.

Doubt Chugg plays either so possibly a $$$ issue.

Yep, 2 donuts (although delicious) is too many.

 

[Herbie66]

Yep, 2 donuts (although delicious) is too many.
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Bergman , Highmore & Macrae might be concerns but who knows until teams are announced which rookies will be playing or not.

At least with Collingwood playing the second game it will (should) be easier to adjust.

 

[BigRuss]

Been able to squeeze in that 5th 'keeper' mid yet, mate?

Had a play with cutting a def premo and squeezed Young in with a 5th mid but I’m not overly happy with it. Good chance I end up 4 deep but with Fyfe M4 instead of Taranto, just don’t see a way around it at the moment.

 

[Hawk41]

Made a few changes, mainly after watching the dogs play & their fantasy friendly style - seems to me the new rules suit a few of their players very well :-

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Defenders :-

Laird - lock

Daniel - has replaced Mills purely because he looks perfectly suited to the new rules

Short - see Daniel

Young & Clark - big fan of both these kids, Clark looked great on the weekend - another one suited to the new rules. Young looks set to take plenty of kicks ins, dockers will want the ball in his hands being such an elite kick.

Highmore/Koisi/Murray the back rookies - happy to start Highmore.

Midfield :-

Like @wogitalia , contested ball winners with elite spread seem the way to go with the mids. Backing my boy Walsh in even though his kicking wasn't great last game. Cripps I am really torn over ... so much value but did underwhelm in the practice game. Did spend plenty of time fwd which I doubt happens when the real season starts. Campbell/Powell/Downie (or Gulden) I am happy to start with Brockman & Scott on the bench. I like having 3 mid rookies with Fwd/mid classification so can swap with Danger/Dunkley/Dow to help in providing cover if required.

Rucks :-

Boring lock & load - too much risk involved for mine not taking the 2 elite rucks

Forwards :-

Danger looks sublime & Dunkley I just couldn't ignore after his game yesterday, despite concerns re his role his ceiling is high, can see him having some massive games.

Ziebell/Daniher just too much value, Dow's role looks very lucrative & Warner cemented his round 1 spot last game.

Rowe a bench lock & I think Treacy gets games now with Lobb out long term.

Thoughts welcomed

I don't think it would be right if our teams weren't nearly the same, seems every year we end up very similar.
Only about 3-4 picks different but a big difference.
Like how you've got my Caldwell up to Dunkley by dropping Butts to Murray and Impey to Teacy.

 

[Professor]

@Herbie66

thoughts? 😜

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1369461883321741320

 

[Goodie's Guns]

@Herbie66

thoughts? 😜

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1369461883321741320

Michael Walters was that disappointing to end last year he can’t even make an All-Injured Side 😜 And to that, it’s say it’s a fantastic call at the selection table. Hahaha

 

[Herbie66]

@Herbie66

thoughts? 😜

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1369461883321741320

As good as any team until Round 1 teams are announced 😀

I just finalised my MPM team , no rookies , actually looks better than most teams on here.

 

[Herbie66]

@Herbie66

thoughts? 😜

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1369461883321741320

I think it was Tim Mitchell , did you see his Community Series hype team ?