Analysis SuperCoach Scoring Explained, Observations & Complaints On Scoring

[Pearcey47]

So if we are analysing the draw would it be of benefit to look at a player who's upcoming opposition have low AFL Fantasy totals or low disposal numbers as opposed to supercoach scores?

I don't think there would be much correlation because AFL Fantasy doesn't take in to account efficiency - although in saying that the 3 lowest scoring AFL Fantasy teams are in the top 5 teams that give up the most SC points.

 

[Prochard]

So bont vs JPK

Bont: 38% DE JPK:48.6% DE
Bont: 18 touches JPK: 37 touches
Bont: 2 clearances JPK: 6 clearances
Bont: 7 contested pos JPK: 17 contested pos
Bont: 0 goal 1 beh JPK: 1 goal 0 beh
Bont: 6 clangers JPK: 7 clangers
Bont: 3 inside 50s JPK: 7 inside 50s
Bont: 5 free kicks against JPK: 2 frees for 1 free kicks against



So, twice touches, higher % DE, higher % contested, more goals, less FAs. All bont has is a few soft tackles which really had no impact

Yet Bont (92 SC): JPK (99 SC)

This triggers me way too much Bont coming into my team next week 100%.

lol

 

[ThirdManUp]

So bont vs JPK

Bont: 38% DE JPK:48.6% DE
Bont: 18 touches JPK: 37 touches
Bont: 2 clearances JPK: 6 clearances
Bont: 7 contested pos JPK: 17 contested pos
Bont: 0 goal 1 beh JPK: 1 goal 0 beh
Bont: 6 clangers JPK: 7 clangers
Bont: 3 inside 50s JPK: 7 inside 50s
Bont: 5 free kicks against JPK: 2 frees for 1 free kicks against



So, twice touches, higher % DE, higher % contested, more goals, less FAs. All bont has is a few soft tackles which really had no impact

Yet Bont (92 SC): JPK (99 SC)

This triggers me way too much Bont coming into my team next week 100%.

lol

Those clangers kill ya score.

 

[Brettthejett]

So bont vs JPK

Bont: 38% DE JPK:48.6% DE
Bont: 18 touches JPK: 37 touches
Bont: 2 clearances JPK: 6 clearances
Bont: 7 contested pos JPK: 17 contested pos
Bont: 0 goal 1 beh JPK: 1 goal 0 beh
Bont: 6 clangers JPK: 7 clangers
Bont: 3 inside 50s JPK: 7 inside 50s
Bont: 5 free kicks against JPK: 2 frees for 1 free kicks against



So, twice touches, higher % DE, higher % contested, more goals, less FAs. All bont has is a few soft tackles which really had no impact

Yet Bont (92 SC): JPK (99 SC)

This triggers me way too much Bont coming into my team next week 100%.

lol

Yep if those stats are the other way round Bont nearly scores 200

 

[BigRuss]

So bont vs JPK

Bont: 38% DE JPK:48.6% DE
Bont: 18 touches JPK: 37 touches
Bont: 2 clearances JPK: 6 clearances
Bont: 7 contested pos JPK: 17 contested pos
Bont: 0 goal 1 beh JPK: 1 goal 0 beh
Bont: 6 clangers JPK: 7 clangers
Bont: 3 inside 50s JPK: 7 inside 50s
Bont: 5 free kicks against JPK: 2 frees for 1 free kicks against


So, twice touches, higher % DE, higher % contested, more goals, less FAs. All bont has is a few soft tackles which really had no impact

Yet Bont (92 SC): JPK (99 SC)

This triggers me way too much Bont coming into my team next week 100%.

lol

+8 tackles for Bont mate, whether they're soft or not that's +25 at minimum and probably closer to +40. Still seems a bit skewed on both sides though.

 

[Tamuhawk]

So bont vs JPK

Bont: 38% DE JPK:48.6% DE
Bont: 18 touches JPK: 37 touches
Bont: 2 clearances JPK: 6 clearances
Bont: 7 contested pos JPK: 17 contested pos
Bont: 0 goal 1 beh JPK: 1 goal 0 beh
Bont: 6 clangers JPK: 7 clangers
Bont: 3 inside 50s JPK: 7 inside 50s
Bont: 5 free kicks against JPK: 2 frees for 1 free kicks against



So, twice touches, higher % DE, higher % contested, more goals, less FAs. All bont has is a few soft tackles which really had no impact

Yet Bont (92 SC): JPK (99 SC)

This triggers me way too much Bont coming into my team next week 100%.

lol

Plz do trade him in next week.

 

[IDIG]

So bont vs JPK

Bont: 38% DE JPK:48.6% DE
Bont: 18 touches JPK: 37 touches
Bont: 2 clearances JPK: 6 clearances
Bont: 7 contested pos JPK: 17 contested pos
Bont: 0 goal 1 beh JPK: 1 goal 0 beh
Bont: 6 clangers JPK: 7 clangers
Bont: 3 inside 50s JPK: 7 inside 50s
Bont: 5 free kicks against JPK: 2 frees for 1 free kicks against



So, twice touches, higher % DE, higher % contested, more goals, less FAs. All bont has is a few soft tackles which really had no impact

Yet Bont (92 SC): JPK (99 SC)

This triggers me way too much Bont coming into my team next week 100%.

lol

Yep. I'm sure someone will be able to come in and justify his score statistically, points scoring system yadda yadda yadda but if there was any consistency with how he was scored tonight he wouldn't have been within 20-30 points of JPK. And let's not forget he was in a team that got beaten quite well as well.

 

[Rowsus]

+8 tackles for Bont mate, whether they're soft or not that's +25 at minimum and probably closer to +40. Still seems a bit skewed on both sides though.

There are no "soft" tackles.
A Tackle is only recorded if:
the ball is put into dispute
or
a stoppage is caused
or
a turnover is forced
Most "tackles" you see in a game, aren't actually tackles, as the player still gets his handball/kick away.

 

[IDIG]

There are no "soft" tackles.
A Tackle is only recorded if:
the ball is put into dispute
or
a stoppage is caused
or
a turnover is forced
Most "tackles" you see in a game, aren't actually tackles, as the player still gets his handball/kick away.

I've seen Bont lay a hand on someone and get awarded a tackle. It happened a few weeks ago..it truly was laughable.

 

[Prochard]

There are no "soft" tackles.
A Tackle is only recorded if:
the ball is put into dispute
or
a stoppage is caused
or
a turnover is forced
Most "tackles" you see in a game, aren't actually tackles, as the player still gets his handball/kick away.

This is just flat out incorrect.

If a player gets a contested ball around contests, gets visually tackled, handballs if off, the tackle is rewarded.


1. No turnover created.
2. No stoppage forced.

I know this for sure because this happens extremely frequently, and players tend to get rewarded by it to a lesser extent. This is also why players with high tackle counts usually result in a negative DT:SC ratio unless they have very high CP, because tackle=4 points in DT but only 2-3 in SC.

 

[Prochard]

+8 tackles for Bont mate, whether they're soft or not that's +25 at minimum and probably closer to +40. Still seems a bit skewed on both sides though.

So yes, while i agree with you that it's quite skewed on both sides, +8 tackles is 24 maximum and probably closer to 20 assuming half of his tackles were effective.

 

[Erich1036]

Bont: 6 clangers JPK: 7 clangers
Bont: 5 free kicks against JPK: 2 frees for 1 free kicks against

I agree with you for the most part, it does seem hard to believe. I feel like JPK should at the absolute very least be more than 20 points ahead of Bont. But you know the part I've highlighted is a positive thing for the Bont in this argument, right? Frees against are counted as clangers. Meaning Bont had 1 clanger disposal, compared to JPK's 6 clanger disposals. Frees against in contested situations are generally -1. Clanger disposals are penalised much harsher. Just little things like this a lot of people can look over, and can help explain some things.

 

[Erich1036]

This is just flat out incorrect.

If a player gets a contested ball around contests, gets visually tackled, handballs if off, the tackle is rewarded.


1. No turnover created.
2. No stoppage forced.

I know this for sure because this happens extremely frequently, and players tend to get rewarded by it to a lesser extent. This is also why players with high tackle counts usually result in a negative DT:SC ratio unless they have very high CP, because tackle=4 points in DT but only 2-3 in SC.

As someone who has watched live scoring for years, you're completely wrong haha...

P.S. You're a brave man going up against Rowsus, good luck to you.

 

[Erich1036]

So yes, while i agree with you that it's quite skewed on both sides, +8 tackles is 24 maximum and probably closer to 20 assuming half of his tackles were effective.

Again, only effective tackles are counted as tackles...

 

[bomberboy]

As someone who has watched live scoring for years, you're completely wrong haha...

P.S. You're a brave man going up against Rowsus, good luck to you.

Agreed. May the best man win...

 

[Prochard]

As someone who has watched live scoring for years, you're completely wrong haha...

P.S. You're a brave man going up against Rowsus, good luck to you.

Sure, enlighten me, what part of my paragraph you think is wrong. Is it the part about tackles being rewarded when neither of the criteria outlined by Rowsus were present? Or the part about tackles being worth 2-3 points in sc?

 

[bomberboy]

Sure, enlighten me, what part of my paragraph you think is wrong. Is it the part about tackles being rewarded when neither of the criteria outlined by Rowsus were present? Or the part about tackles being worth 2-3 points in sc?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...a/news-story/7385b9a5cdd20375bf2ed606a02fe1d0

Here it states a tackle is 4 points.

 

[Prochard]

I agree with you for the most part, it does seem hard to believe. I feel like JPK should at the absolute very least be more than 20 points ahead of Bont. But you know the part I've highlighted is a positive thing for the Bont in this argument, right? Frees against are counted as clangers. Meaning Bont had 1 clanger disposal, compared to JPK's 6 clanger disposals. Frees against in contested situations are generally -1. Clanger disposals are penalised much harsher. Just little things like this a lot of people can look over, and can help explain some things.

Yes, that is a category in his favour, but don't forget 2 of these FA were holding the ball calls, where even though a clanger (a FA) was added the player is still rewarded with a contested possession, if anything it skews the CP count further towards JPK.

 

[Prochard]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...a/news-story/7385b9a5cdd20375bf2ed606a02fe1d0

Here it states a tackle is 4 points.

This has been gone over many times in earlier pages, read them before you blindly rely on everything from an online article without assessing its validity.

 

[Erich1036]

Sure, enlighten me, what part of my paragraph you think is wrong. Is it the part about tackles being rewarded when neither of the criteria outlined by Rowsus were present? Or the part about tackles being worth 2-3 points in sc?

The part about tackles being rewarded when neither of the criteria outlined by Rowsus were present. Tackles don't count when the player tackled gets an effective disposal away.