Strategy 2023: Rookies Discussion

[GrainFedBeef]

He had 31 touches, 8 tackles and 1 goal on the weekend... C'mon Charlie. Save us

58% have held onto Constable.

Question is who does he replace in the GC midfield, given I think that is where he is now playing in VFL.

 

[donnybuang]

When life gives you Lemmens...

 

[Herbie66]

Be interesting to know what his JS looks like, thought he went ok but understand he's a depth player and wondering who he keeps out.

No idea about North Melbourne to be honest , think they had 5-6 changes , haven't checked their injury list though to see when they are due back.

People might need a forward downgrade option to release cash ASAP so if he performs next game he might be the one.

 

[Toothless Tigers]

Humphrey B. Bear
What a funny old fellow is Humphrey,
He gets in all manner of strife,
He leads a very exciting life,
And honey's his favourite fare,
Which is hardly so very surprising,
He's a really amazing old bear,
What a funny old fellow is Humphrey,
Humphrey the fun loving bear!

 

[Matt]

42% to trade him in whenever he gets named.

58% of us were certainly hoping he'd have played his 3rd game by now! I put off trading him out early in the season as a corrective rookie trade because of his -52 break even

 

[BigRuss]

58% of us were certainly hoping he'd have played his 3rd game by now! I put off trading him out early in the season as a corrective rookie trade because of his -52 break even

I made a 50/50 call between him and Chesser and kept Chesser.

Amazingly, I think you might have won haha.

 

[Matt]

I made a 50/50 call between him and Chesser and kept Chesser.

Amazingly, I think you might have won haha.

I made the same call & traded Chesser to Long, who's only now finally back playing. I haven't even been able to loop Constable because Gold Coast had too many earlier games

 

[Wheedus]

Laverde and Kelly are both a chance to return this week.

Id avoid Baldwin.

Really liked his game v Richmond. Did some really important defensive stuff. Couple of times I even thought the bigfella Cale Hooker was back doing what he did best.

Unfortunately, as @Damion23 says, he likely gets pushed out if Laverde and Kelly come back in.

 

[Ironhawk]

With regards to Constable, he peaked at an ownership of 119,837 in Rd 3, and was still in 108,335 teams in Rd 10. I really thought more would have traded him out.

Still in 89.9% of teams in the top 1%, 89.5% in the top 5% and 89.1% in the top 10% - those numbers are far higher than I expected too.

 

[Deeman1]

With regards to Constable, he peaked at an ownership of 119,837 in Rd 3, and was still in 108,335 teams in Rd 10. I really thought more would have traded him out.

Still in 89.9% of teams in the top 1%, 89.5% in the top 5% and 89.1% in the top 10% - those numbers are far higher than I expected too.

I suspect it might be something to do with factors.

1. There has been little value in side-way trade
2. His DPP may have meant he was still somewhat useful due to allowing players to be moved around.

And of course we SC players are sometime a 'wishful thinking' bunch and been hoping he was going to re-appear at some stage

 

[PC]

I traded Constable early for the purpose of using him as a rookie downgrade later in the season. Didn't see him getting back in the team quickly after those first two games, needed to prove himself in the seconds.

 

[Miller is a Steele]

Good rookie performances in the VFL/WAFL/SANFL:
Deven Robertsen (202k MID, BRL) had 26 disposals (10 kicks), 2 marks, 4 tackles and 1.0 for 87AF. BE of 116.
James Madden (148k DEF,BRL) had 21 disposals (10 kicks), 3 marks and 2 tackles for 69AF.
Finlay Macrae (123k MID/FWD, COL) had 24 disposals (5 kicks), 2 marks and 6 tackles for 85AF.
Arlo Draper (123k DEF, COL) had 24 disposals (16 kicks), 5 marks, 6 tackles and 0.1 for 97AF.
Harvey Harrison (123k FWD, COL) had 20 disposals (10 kicks), 5 marks, 2 tackles and 3.0 for 91AF.
Cooper Murley (123k MID/FWD, COL) had 13 disposals (10 kicks), 6 marks, 5 tackles and 3.0 for 89AF.
Rhett Montgomerie (102k DEF, ESS) had 23 disposals (17 kicks), 6 marks and 9 tackles for 96AF.
Nick Bryan (200k RUC/FWD, ESS) had 20 disposals (15 kicks), 4 marks, 2 tackles and 29HO for 107AF.
Karl Worner (123k DEF/MID, FRE) had 36 disposals (21 kicks), 11 marks, 0 tackles and 1.0. Simply doesn't have a bad game.
Corey Wagner (117k DEF/MID, FRE) had 25 disposals (11 kicks), 5 marks and 2 tackles. Decent game, but can't see him back in the team any time soon.
Sam Sturt (148k FWD, FRE) had 24 disposals (11 kicks), 8 marks, 2 tackles and 2.2. Almost an identical stat line to last week. He needs these performances if he's any chance of returning. Couldn't even make the emergencies this week. Treacy and Amiss are starting to put together some good performances at AFL level and Fyfe coming back has really hurt him.
Tom Emmett (117k FWD, FRE) had 22 disposals (12 kicks), 5 marks, 10 tackles and 1.2.
Charlie Constable (123k DEF/MID, GCS) had 28 disposals (14 kicks), 5 marks and 6 tackles for 101AF. 6 tackles! He's getting better.
Bohdi Uwland (123k DEF/MID, GCS) had 22 disposals (19 kicks), 6 marks and 2 tackles for 91AF.
Harry Rowston (175k MID, GWS) had 33 disposals (20 kicks), 3 marks, 4 tackles and 1.1 for 104AF. Big game, after a few mediocre ones. Still not enough to break into the emergencies.
Josh Fahey (123k DEF/MID, GWS) had 26 disposals (20 kicks), 5 marks, 4 tackles and 0.1 for 102AF. He does it week in, week out. Debut looming.
Jason Gillbee (102k DEF/MID, GWS) had 20 disposals (12 kicks), 5 marks and no tackles for 68AF.
Wade Derksen (123k FWD, GWS) had 15 disposals (12 kicks), 7 marks, no tackles and 5.1 for 91AF.
George Wardlaw (193k MID, NTH) had 19 disposals (14 kicks), 2 marks, 5 tackles and 2.1 for 90AF. Debuting this week. Will be interesting to see how he goes.
Hugh Jackson (123k MID/FWD, PTA) had 24 disposals (15 kicks), 4 marks and 2 tackles for 81AF.
Angus Sheldrick (165k MID, SYD) had 36 disposals (16 kicks), 6 marks, 4 tackles and 1.0 for 130AF.
Corey Warner (123k MID/FWD, SYD) had 19 disposals (12 kicks), 3 marks and 3 tackles for 65AF.
Lachlan McAndrew (123k RUC/FWD, SYD) had 9 disposals (4 kicks), 3 marks, 2 tackles and 35HO for 75AF. Debuting this week. No JS to speak of though.
Zane Trew (175k MID/FWD, WCE) had 32 disposals (16 kicks), 5 marks and 3 tackles. On the bubble this week coming off scores of 41 and 20. Wouldn't touch him.

Byes for Carlton, Hawthorn and Melbourne.

Sorry for the late review.

Good rookie performances in the VFL (WAFL&SANFL both had byes):
Deven Robertsen (202k MID, BRL) had 39 disposals (14 kicks), 2 marks, 1 tackle and 1.0 for 106AF. BE of 117.
Jaspa Fletcher (157k MID, BRL) had 30 disposals (16 kicks), 12 marks, 3 tackles and 2.0 for 139AF.
James Madden (148k DEF, BRL) had 25 disposals (14 kicks), 3 marks, 2 tackles and 0.1 for 82AF.
Kai Lohmann (146k FWD, BRL) had 22 disposals (17 kicks), 9 marks, 1 tackle and 7.1 for 130AF.
Blake Coleman (123k FWD, BRL) had 16 disposals (11 kicks), 4 marks, 2 tackles and 3.1 for 82AF.
Jaxon Binns (117k MID/FWD, CAR) had 30 disposals (21 kicks), 4 marks and 5 tackles for 108AF. Get this man a game!
Nick Bryan (200k RUC/FWD, ESS) had 25 disposals (19 kicks), 11 marks, 2 tackles and 37HO for 142AF. Seems to be coming along very nicely this year. At the wrong club though unfortunately with Draper and Phillips in front of him.
Lewis Hayes (117k DEF, ESS) had 21 disposals (18 kicks), 10 marks and no tackles for 84AF.
Patrick Voss (123k FWD, ESS) had 17 disposals (12 kicks), 7 marks, 2 tackles and 3.1 for 95AF.
Charlie Constable (123k DEF/MID, GCS) had 31 disposals (18 kicks), 6 marks, 8 tackles and 1.0 for 130AF. Led the Suns in the tackles column this week. He has to be getting close.
Ned Moyle (123k RUC, GCS) had 21 disposals (10 kicks), 6 marks, no tackles, 38HO and 1.0 for 111AF.
James Tsitas (123k MID/FWD, GCS) had 20 disposals (13 kicks), 3 marks, 5 tackles and 3.0 for 94AF.
Josh Fahey (123k DEF/MID, GWS) had 43 disposals (25 kicks), 14 marks and 3 tackles for 163AF. Huge game and has to be rewarded soon.
Harry Rowston (175k MID, GWS) had 27 disposals (19 kicks), 7 marks and 8 tackles for 124AF.
Wade Derksen (123k FWD, GWS) had 15 disposals (13 kicks), 9 marks, no tackles and 3.3 for 91AF. A few very good performances so far this year for Derksen. I wonder if they give Cadman a run in the 2's and give Derksen an AFL game.
Jason Gillbee (102k DEF/MID, GWS) had 23 disposals (14 kicks), 7 marks, 2 tackles and 0.1 for 90AF.
Henry Hustwaite (117k MID, HAW) had 26 disposals (11 kicks), 5 marks and 6 tackles for 102AF.
Bailey Macdonald (117k DEF, HAW) had 21 disposals (15 kicks), 9 marks and 2 tackles for 89AF.
Daniel Turner (123k DEF, MEL) had 22 disposals (17 kicks), 13 marks and no tackles for 97AF.
Bailey Laurie (123k MID/FWD, MEL) had 23 disposals (11 kicks), 5 marks, 2 tackles and 2.0 for 93AF.
Taj Woewodin (123k MID/FWD, MEL) had 22 disposals (13 kicks), 5 marks, no tackles and 1.1 for 74AF.
Cooper Harvey (117k MID/FWD, NTH) had 20 disposals (10 kicks), 6 marks, no tackles and 5.0 for 98AF.
Jack Bytel (116k MID, STK) had 36 disposals (16 kicks), 3 marks and 2 tackles for 106AF. If he can get some consistent JS, he should score really well at that price.
Leo Connolly (123k DEF, STK) had 30 disposals (15 kicks), 5 marks, no tackles and 0.1 for 91AF.
Corey Warner (123k MID/FWD, SYD) had 26 disposals (14 kicks), 4 marks, 5 tackles and 1.0 for 102AF.
Lachlan Rankin (123k DEF, SYD) had 21 disposals (15 kicks), 6 marks and 5 tackles for 95AF.

Adelaide, Collingwood, Fremantle, Geelong, Port Adelaide, West Coast and Western Bulldogs all had byes.

 

[frosty1]

This week's rookie roulette decision (after trades): Johnson, Davey, Drury, Angwin or Sharp on field....

Oh dear....

 

[frosty1]

Nick Bryan (200k RUC/FWD, ESS) had 25 disposals (19 kicks), 11 marks, 2 tackles and 37HO for 142AF. Seems to be coming along very nicely this year. At the wrong club though unfortunately with Draper and Phillips in front of him.

Has to be very very close to replacing Phillips. Would not surprise at all if Phillips (who has struggled playing multiple games in a row) was rested this week.

 

[jel]

Keeping an eye on Mullin.
If he gets another game next week he'll be on the bubble after their bye and a handy downgrade option.

 

[Wheedus]

Humphrey v Weddle. Both appear to have pretty good JS. Weddle probably has the better role for consistent scoring. Humphrey the higher ceiling and will make more cash. Humphrey's bye is better.

With an Oliver to Zerrett trade I can can get either with Cincotta.

For those with the same dilemma, remember you only have to trade out Cincotta tonight (eg to Weddle). You can still switch Weddle to Humprhey tomorrow (before the Hawks game starts) without using another trade.

 

[Shannon]

Humphrey v Weddle. Both appear to have pretty good JS. Weddle probably has the better role for consistent scoring. Humphrey the higher ceiling and will make more cash. Humphrey's bye is better.

With an Oliver to Zerrett trade I can can get either with Cincotta.

For those with the same dilemma, remember you only have to trade out Cincotta tonight (eg to Weddle). You can still switch Weddle to Humprhey tomorrow (before the Hawks game starts) without using another trade.

Humphrey also has DP so covers 2 lines 😉

 

[wolfbunny]

That tackle count has me mildly excited....

That was the knock on Constable wasn't it? That he wasn't good defensively? Or was it DE as well?
And since he has been dropped he has been tried in the mid field?

Their injury list is short, Lemmens back after the bye according to the AFL injury list
Unsure of Weller on the knee, some swelling ? so maybe he is back after the bye as well?
Who makes way for them maybe Long and Berry? Can't see Ellis out for long(time)
Where's Constable fit into the GC side?
I have held him since pre season for transparency

 

[Pesci001]

Can't decided which player to select
Who has the better JS? McAndrew or Ford - both 123K

 

[MaxsMaggies]

Can't decided which player to select
Who has the better JS? McAndrew or Ford - both 123K

Flip a coin, whoever plays better in this round, they are probably both 1 bad game away from getting dropped like most rookies. Cincotta is the best example of that, 3 out of his 4 games were great, then 1 bad game and dropped.