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Picked up as soon I thought it. Posted it an over or two after I thought it. Batted a bit slow for too long. Even Marsh was dithering.
Good to see. They really shouldn't have been worrying about losing wickets in this situation.
Khawaja blocking maidens, then 5 dot balls and a single of the sixth ball, which was happening after the 46th over, shows a lack of understanding of what is required, or comes from the Steve Waugh bat for yourself first, and the team second school of thinking!
Good to see. They really shouldn't have been worrying about losing wickets in this situation.
Khawaja blocking maidens, then 5 dot balls and a single of the sixth ball, which was happening after the 46th over, shows a lack of understanding of what is required, or comes from the Steve Waugh bat for yourself first, and the team second school of thinking!
Pitch is playing up for their bowlers (don't think 8-11 will bat for us) , can't see them lasting close to 4 sessions to save the game when they bat , unless snooze fest Imam bats for 4 sessions.
101.5 overs they lasted in the 1st Innings.
Modern day thinking seems to be all about time when considering the declaration , so how many overs they want to have at them today , I gather Cummins , Hazlewood & Starc would probably like 8-12 overs each minimum at them today , maybe 30-45 minute burst before tea.
402 Run lead at lunch , just keep them out there as long as they feel necessary , runs are not really relevant anymore.
101.5 overs they lasted in the 1st Innings.
Modern day thinking seems to be all about time when considering the declaration , so how many overs they want to have at them today , I gather Cummins , Hazlewood & Starc would probably like 8-12 overs each minimum at them today , maybe 30-45 minute burst before tea.
402 Run lead at lunch , just keep them out there as long as they feel necessary , runs are not really relevant anymore.
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If they really want to "save" Test Cricket, they need to do something about over rates!!!
25 Overs in that session is disgusting!
Currently the penalty is 5%/over, capped at 50% and 1 WTC point.
Well, some teams could careless about WTC points, so that penalty is pointless.
As to the 5%/over capped at 50%, that too is near meaningless.
The Pakistani players are paid around $6,000/Test Match. They play 5 Test Matches this year, so the maximum they can be fined this Tour for slow Test over rates is $9,000. The average Pakistani Test player is paid around $190,000/year. This doesn't include outside deals, IPL, sponsorships etc.
Does anyone really think they're worried about $9,000 (max) fines or WTC points????
Time to make them play properly, or not play at all. There was an idea floated around 20 years ago. Test players should get paid nothing until the end of the series, and fines should be heavy for continued poor play, like slow over rates. How heavy? I'd suggest fines for ridiculous over rates like todays morning session should be 100% of the tour earning fees. Continue to do it, and give them a 200% fine, and ban them from all paid cricket for 3 months.
People will say you can't do that. I say, they are paid to PLAY Test Cricket, not manipulate the game. Play, play properly, or step aside and let those that will play instead!!!!!
Punishment as a deterrent is only effective if the punishment is truly felt. At the moment, the punishment is like giving a Lamborghini driver a $50 parking ticket!!!!!
25 Overs in that session is disgusting!
Currently the penalty is 5%/over, capped at 50% and 1 WTC point.
Well, some teams could careless about WTC points, so that penalty is pointless.
As to the 5%/over capped at 50%, that too is near meaningless.
The Pakistani players are paid around $6,000/Test Match. They play 5 Test Matches this year, so the maximum they can be fined this Tour for slow Test over rates is $9,000. The average Pakistani Test player is paid around $190,000/year. This doesn't include outside deals, IPL, sponsorships etc.
Does anyone really think they're worried about $9,000 (max) fines or WTC points????
Time to make them play properly, or not play at all. There was an idea floated around 20 years ago. Test players should get paid nothing until the end of the series, and fines should be heavy for continued poor play, like slow over rates. How heavy? I'd suggest fines for ridiculous over rates like todays morning session should be 100% of the tour earning fees. Continue to do it, and give them a 200% fine, and ban them from all paid cricket for 3 months.
People will say you can't do that. I say, they are paid to PLAY Test Cricket, not manipulate the game. Play, play properly, or step aside and let those that will play instead!!!!!
Punishment as a deterrent is only effective if the punishment is truly felt. At the moment, the punishment is like giving a Lamborghini driver a $50 parking ticket!!!!!
Is your $ 190,000.00 including match payments ?
Under their new contract deal Category C (2 players) & D players (15 players) are paid USD 2650.00 to USD 5300.00 approximately per month
Category B get USD 10,600.00 approximately per month (only 6 players)
Babar , Rizwan & Shaheen are the only Category A players on USD 15,900.00 approximately per month.
Source : CricInfo article August 8th
PCB media release 27 September actually highlights how much they all increased
Under their new contract deal Category C (2 players) & D players (15 players) are paid USD 2650.00 to USD 5300.00 approximately per month
Category B get USD 10,600.00 approximately per month (only 6 players)
Babar , Rizwan & Shaheen are the only Category A players on USD 15,900.00 approximately per month.
Source : CricInfo article August 8th
PCB media release 27 September actually highlights how much they all increased
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And that is the exclamation mark on what I was saying.
We batted for 5.2 overs after lunch.
How about instead of losing 8 overs (2 for change of innings), you aim for a lunch declaration?
Will we still win? 97% yes. Could those 8 overs make a difference at the end of the match. Unlikely, but still possibly!!!!!
Dot the i's, cross the t's ....... it what the best sides do!!!!!
We batted for 5.2 overs after lunch.
How about instead of losing 8 overs (2 for change of innings), you aim for a lunch declaration?
Will we still win? 97% yes. Could those 8 overs make a difference at the end of the match. Unlikely, but still possibly!!!!!
Dot the i's, cross the t's ....... it what the best sides do!!!!!
Interesting that the only one of the 6 category B players only Imam is here , Naseem injured.
144% increase in the Contract , 50% increase in Test match payment.
Certainly agree though over rates in all forms of cricket remain a problem.
Fines don't work , suspending the captain's hasn't worked maybe they need to start deducting runs (significant) from the score.
Pakistan cricketers might be (still) making a lot of money elsewhere from other sources 🤔.
I think they are now only allowed to play in 2 (possibly)-3 outside T10/T20 Leagues , obviously not the IPL
144% increase in the Contract , 50% increase in Test match payment.
Certainly agree though over rates in all forms of cricket remain a problem.
Fines don't work , suspending the captain's hasn't worked maybe they need to start deducting runs (significant) from the score.
Pakistan cricketers might be (still) making a lot of money elsewhere from other sources 🤔.
I think they are now only allowed to play in 2 (possibly)-3 outside T10/T20 Leagues , obviously not the IPL