Discussion 2024: Rate My Team

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I love looking at your potential sides as you're one from left field. Much to pique my curiosity.
Thank you, I put a lot of thought into it, although I usually fall short of building a team with enough potential for growth and bye planning. I do like a pod I must say, so happy for you to consider at least 1 option which might suit your side. 😉
 
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Sounds like you have a heap of premo sideswaps planned? What are you going to do about missed rookies or mid pricers that became must haves?

Using extra trades isn't really a problem, it's more the timing of which these trades will need to be done between rounds 3-6
Rookies would have to take precedence. If I'm a week late on a slingshot, I'm still ok. Afterall, I have a premo sitting in that spot
 
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This is an interesting take on how to deal with the early byes and I would love to hear a bit more discussion on the merits of slingshotting players over those rounds.

It's obviously something that will be frowned upon by the traditionalists, but I think that it's something worth exploring. Some of the ideas about how to build a team and manage trades could be (are) outdated because of the changes over the last 3 years.

We now have 10 more trades in conjunction with 5 boosts, surely that demands a rethink on how to approach the game. For instance, a trade back in the 30 trade era was said to be worth $150k, surely that's less now.

My read on things is that any advantage that can be gained in the early rounds is worth gold, mainly because we're all upgrading and finishing our teams early and about the same time, meaning that those early gains are nigh on impossible for others to make up (providing a good trading strategy is maintained) So 50pts here, 50pts there and maybe 50pts somewhere else adds up and results in a big POD to most teams.
I'm not a traditionalist or anything... much. I mean sure, my stated desire is for an SC Original game where we go back to 20 trades, no rolling lockouts, captains loops or DPPs but other than that, I'm not a traditionalist.

Even if I think it would be a more rewarding game overall. With less cookie cutting going on as teams limp, battered and bruised to the finish line, eating donuts and carrying rookies in D5.

Remember the days when you would actually try to max out a rookie?

I mean they could even call it SC Original Recipe to keep the sponsor happy. No cash prizes. Just mad bragging rights. Maybe a smoking jacket. Or a robe

In those olden days, they reckoned a trade was worth 200k, though it did depend on how late it was in the year. So twice as many trades and yeah, they'd be worth a hundred.

Personally (and this is also in answer to Chumpion's post), these trades are close to worthless. The first few anyway. I figure I didn't have them last year and I made a point of trading harder than I ever have. Came up 1 or 2 short in the end and planned to back it off a little. Now they give me another 5.

I'm hoping my logic's good
 
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I don't mind the slingshotting but it should still be with an eye on improving the team. I don't think prices would have moved enough by rnd 2 and 3 to see a profit from a slingshot. Maybe the slingshot could be seen as a correction if you have a regret. I don't like sidewaysing. I see the 40 trades as meaning we don't have to try and get as many keepers into our starting team. We can build more cash and have a stronger team for the run home. One more keeper on each line with looping. Having a Curnow or Cameron at F7 and taking their good scores.
Similar thinking here, with thoughts of a Nic Martin or Amon as D7/M9
 
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Slowly catching up on all the latest news.
First real go at a team.
Avoiding Daicos for the moment. Would love English but Gawn and Grundy look like really good value picks.
Bont and Butters were first picked as I like to watch them play so much.
Hoping that Nick Martin turns out to play full time in defence.
Fingers crossed that LDU does not get injured.
Hopefully Dimma is telling the truth about Flanders, but there again I have no real idea about the forward line.
If all goes to plan I think I have 12 keepers.
Don't know what to do with the $382K in the bank?
I am sure things will change but any idea gladly appreciated 🙂


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I don't mind the slingshotting but it should still be with an eye on improving the team. I don't think prices would have moved enough by rnd 2 and 3 to see a profit from a slingshot. Maybe the slingshot could be seen as a correction if you have a regret. I don't like sidewaysing. I see the 40 trades as meaning we don't have to try and get as many keepers into our starting team. We can build more cash and have a stronger team for the run home. One more keeper on each line with looping. Having a Curnow or Cameron at F7 and taking their good scores.
I think I would like to have Walsh in my team. Reckon he's had a far better preseason than last and is a year older and yada yada.

He plays 23 games, one of which doesn't count as it's in round 0. That's costing me nearly 4.5% of his worth, or overpricing him $25k

I could just make him an upgrade target and get him in around round 7 but I dunno. 575k for Walsh is pretty good. I'd take him from the start if it wasn't for that bye.

I could take him from the start and just run a rookie in round 2. But I figure I'd have 11 or 12 keepers, including Walsh so I'd be counting my 7th best rookie score in my best 18 if I started Walsh.

I also want Touk Touk so repeat the above, only now I'm counting my 8th best rookie as well.

Instead, I'm running Sprayshaw and LDU. Who knows? Maybe they wind up being good picks and I keep 'em, trading down Laird and Rozee for Touk and Walsh. If I can't bring myself to trade one of those guys down, then that's because the are doing a great job. Winning.

But having premos in there instead of 7th and 8th rookies, I'm making maybe 120 points for those 2 trades. Again, I really don't value these extra 5 trades at all. Nada. Zippo. No problem with using some of them here.

Now.... the ruck ring a rosey.....

I really would feel better with English in my team. If you've been living under a rock though, I'm not overly enchanted by his starting price. But if he rips out a 60 in one of those games and doesn't fix it with a 160, then he's going to get real cheap real quick. Quick enough to replace Grundy in round 5. A week later and it's Gawn's bye and Grundy comes back in for him. Flagrant waste of trades? I dunno. I've got Tim English in for two weeks replacing my 7th best scoring rookie (as I wouldn't have upgraded yet) and it cost me 2 trades I don't value in the slightest. At the end of it, I either go back to Gawn or continue on with English and Grundy.

If English hasn't dropped in price, I look to Flynn, Xerri, Jackson, Darcy, Marshall or Briggs. There will be an option. Whether I go back to Gawn is still unknown. The stand in ruck might be worth going the distance with. I'll have had 6 rounds to look at them all by that stage.
 
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Slowly catching up on all the latest news.
First real go at a team.
Avoiding Daicos for the moment. Would love English but Gawn and Grundy look like really good value picks.
Bont and Butters were first picked as I like to watch them play so much.
Hoping that Nick Martin turns out to play full time in defence.
Fingers crossed that LDU does not get injured.
Hopefully Dimma is telling the truth about Flanders, but there again I have no real idea about the forward line.
If all goes to plan I think I have 12 keepers.
Don't know what to do with the $382K in the bank?
I am sure things will change but any idea gladly appreciated 🙂


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Does Kiddy Coleman appeal? You could reduce some of your DEF rookie risk by selecting him and still have bank
 
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Slowly catching up on all the latest news.
First real go at a team.
Avoiding Daicos for the moment. Would love English but Gawn and Grundy look like really good value picks.
Bont and Butters were first picked as I like to watch them play so much.
Hoping that Nick Martin turns out to play full time in defence.
Fingers crossed that LDU does not get injured.
Hopefully Dimma is telling the truth about Flanders, but there again I have no real idea about the forward line.
If all goes to plan I think I have 12 keepers.
Don't know what to do with the $382K in the bank?
I am sure things will change but any idea gladly appreciated 🙂


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Keep it in the bank. You'll find a dud rookie to mid pricer option you love at rnd 2/3 and be very happy.
 
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Slowly catching up on all the latest news.
First real go at a team.
Avoiding Daicos for the moment. Would love English but Gawn and Grundy look like really good value picks.
Bont and Butters were first picked as I like to watch them play so much.
Hoping that Nick Martin turns out to play full time in defence.
Fingers crossed that LDU does not get injured.
Hopefully Dimma is telling the truth about Flanders, but there again I have no real idea about the forward line.
If all goes to plan I think I have 12 keepers.
Don't know what to do with the $382K in the bank?
I am sure things will change but any idea gladly appreciated 🙂


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Budgeting in Mckercher & Sanders will get that kitty spent for the most part.
 
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Lord help me if Tom Powell has a decent mid role on Wednesday and sucks me into starting him. The 100k leftover will help me turn Hopper to Gulden at Hopper's bye. I like the idea of Harley Reid at F5.
Hi Santoz, nice team. One of the things we're all trying to work out is the amount of premiums with multiple byes we are able to carry without it being detrimental to our team. Currently I count 6 players you'd hope would score premium level scoring that have multiple byes.

I like the Hopper pick and by all the reports is in for a big year, would be a lot higher on the list if it wasn't for the early bye. Realistically you'd need him to go at least 105 to be worthwhile which I think he's capable of but there's a bit of risk there. With the spare cash in the bank maybe you'd be better off paying up for a genuine uber premo than hoping both of Hopper and Wines work out.

Powell is still a watch for me, very awkward price. Can sort of wait and target players on other lines and just let the forwards sort themselves out this year with the limited options. No real need to take a punt on a Powell type who'll have to be moved on anyway. Could go down to a Billings or Lazzarro but maybe a bit to early to tell at the minute. Nice structure though.
 
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Hello Everyone,

I have tried to cram every last dollar into this.
I have a couple of questions
  • Have I got too many Round Zero players?
  • Are my Rookies sustainable?
Please feel free to provide any other critique.

Balance: $4,300
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Thank you for taking time to reply.
 
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Hello Everyone,

I have tried to cram every last dollar into this.
I have a couple of questions
  • Have I got too many Round Zero players?
  • Are my Rookies sustainable?
Please feel free to provide any other critique.

Balance: $4,300
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Thank you for taking time to reply.
Nah man, 4 round 0 premiums isn't too many. It's more than I want but to each their own. If you aer worried about too many round 0 rookies, then that isn't as important either. In fact, there might even be a slight advantage to having rookies from Sydney, Collingwood, Melbourne, Richmond on account of how their prices rise after round 2. If you don't mind trading early, then maybe you could get a jump that way. If not then provided you have your 18 men, it's all good and all the rookies will all be mooing the same way in round 7.

You seem to be running the same rookies as most everyone else so there's that. The issue I'd have in your shoes is that eid and Cadman are both KPs and I think Pink is too? That usually means slow burn to a 150k gain if you're lucky. And while Gibcus should be better for all the medical work h's had done, he'll still be playig a role that isn't conducive to high scoring.

Then there's Mannagh. Everyone's a fan and I have him too. A 117k Geelong rookie. I sure hope he's like 45 years old because if Chris Scott rejects him, there's more cash we will all need to find to correct him.

So yeah you might want to have a bit more float in your kitty. Or at least work on a plan B for if those rookies don't drop.
 
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Hello Everyone,

I have tried to cram every last dollar into this.
I have a couple of questions
  • Have I got too many Round Zero players?
  • Are my Rookies sustainable?
Please feel free to provide any other critique.

Balance: $4,300
View attachment 68002

Thank you for taking time to reply.
Nice side mate, I kinda agree with AJ about having a decent Kitty to start with, that could easily be achieved for you by dropping Bolton, beefing up a few of your rookies and just enjoy having a good amount of dosh in the bank.
What's the reason you're fading Williams?
 
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Nah man, 4 round 0 premiums isn't too many. It's more than I want but to each their own. If you aer worried about too many round 0 rookies, then that isn't as important either. In fact, there might even be a slight advantage to having rookies from Sydney, Collingwood, Melbourne, Richmond on account of how their prices rise after round 2. If you don't mind trading early, then maybe you could get a jump that way. If not then provided you have your 18 men, it's all good and all the rookies will all be mooing the same way in round 7.

You seem to be running the same rookies as most everyone else so there's that. The issue I'd have in your shoes is that eid and Cadman are both KPs and I think Pink is too? That usually means slow burn to a 150k gain if you're lucky. And while Gibcus should be better for all the medical work h's had done, he'll still be playig a role that isn't conducive to high scoring.

Then there's Mannagh. Everyone's a fan and I have him too. A 117k Geelong rookie. I sure hope he's like 45 years old because if Chris Scott rejects him, there's more cash we will all need to find to correct him.

So yeah you might want to have a bit more float in your kitty. Or at least work on a plan B for if those rookies don't drop.
Thanks for the feed back

Out - Flanders, Cadman, Mannagh
In - Wardlaw, Windsor, Simpson

Balance: $80,400
 
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