Discussion 2024: Rate My Team

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Hey all, good to have footy back for 2024!
First team post…unique year considering round 0 and the byes that follow…

Based the structure on maximising premiums whom don’t have the bye….
will focus on getting rookies corrected in the first few rounds and then make use of the boosts in order to upgrade quickly…

Have selected some uniques in Kelly and Keays….

Happy to hear the communities thoughs on my team and any concerns or ideas you may have…
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Steele at M6 is strong. Keays I got on early last year, didn't quite finish strong enough. Show me him running around in the mids and I'll be in again, but haven't seen any reports of that.

I was worried when you said Kelly. But he doesn't have a GWS jumper on. This is good. WC should get more SC pie than last year. Neat choice.
 
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Solid structure and selections although I would be cautious about going for pods for pod sake as there will be plenty of time for it throughout the season, unless you are extremely confident about the prospects of Kelly and Keays this season.

Kelly's disposal and kicking efficiency leaves a lot to be desired and thus reliant on accumulating a large amount of the ball to warrant selection and any improvement.
Cheers mate, did have Walsh pencilled in ( prior to Kelly) until his back injury Flare up revealed yesterday…
Team Will chop and change many times ( forwards some of the hardest to land with mid price madness)….
Keays May swap to Rankine or Flanders/ Daniel …..
 
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Steele at M6 is strong. Keays I got on early last year, didn't quite finish strong enough. Show me him running around in the mids and I'll be in again, but haven't seen any reports of that.

I was worried when you said Kelly. But he doesn't have a GWS jumper on. This is good. WC should get more SC pie than last year. Neat choice.
Cheers mate, wouldn’t touch GWS Kelly with a ten foot pole….
the bye in round 2 just makes it so much easier to pass them bye…. Although Tom Green may find his way into my team later on in the year.
 
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Cheers mate, did have Walsh pencilled in ( prior to Kelly) until his back injury Flare up revealed yesterday…
Team Will chop and change many times ( forwards some of the hardest to land with mid price madness)….
Keays May swap to Rankine or Flanders/ Daniel …..
I'd love to pick Keays, he served me well a few seasons ago when he played in the mids.
I don't think he will get enough mid time to add the 10 - 15 ppg he needs to get to become a winner.
I'd be more inclined to go for Rankine or even Rachelle if you're after a Crows FWD.
 
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My team looks ridiculous at the moment.
5 North players sitting in there. :eek:
Need to view a few more practise games.
Thinking of changing my team name to the North Port Dockers. 11 of the squad from those 3 teams currently and I'm wondering about Powell now too. It's a worry when only one of those teams has a decent chance of going top 4 and two of them are decent shots at bottom 6
 
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Thinking of changing my team name to the North Port Dockers. 11 of the squad from those 3 teams currently and I'm wondering about Powell now too. It's a worry when only one of those teams has a decent chance of going top 4 and two of them are decent shots at bottom 6
They told me I was crazy but I'll show them.

Hee hee. I'll show them all!!!

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Drop Schultz down to Simpson and Chapman up to Sheez ;)
Nah Shooter's inclusion is a friendly dig at the Freo fans on site. Just reminding them about that other Freo player they might have been trying to forget :D

Pretty stoked we got him, even though they bled us a bit for him. If we finish top 4 and there's a bunch of f/s and ngas this year then it won't be so bad.
 
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Few changes, Sheez comes in, mainly just because of the hawks defender issues meaning Sicily becomes less of a certainty starter and more an upgrade target.

Martin and Wardlaw I'll keep eyes on, may end up going safer with another premo. Rookie roulette will cause chaos with this team before round 1.

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A (fair) few notes:

Backs
- I love my backline. Yeo may be the exception to that though.
- Rivers and Young to get more midfield time. Rivers probably wont spend too much time in there but the odd stint should see his ceiling rise. Even in defence with Brayshaw retiring they should get the ball in Rivers' and Salem's hands even more than before.
- NWM & Coleman are designated kickers coming from defence. Their teammates will look for them at every opportunity. Tags may come eventually when opposition coaches work out that these guys are critical for their respective teams' ball movement. However, i honestly think NWM will easily increase his average by 10+ and Coleman by 20+
- Yeo. He is my last selected in my backline. Im far from sold but word is he is fit (ha) and will play almost exclusively in the middle. At 447k and with 40 trades i am open to taking the risk that he can average 95+ for a while and then get injured. Honestly, part of me is hoping someone else jumps out at me around that price or cheaper so i can ditch Yeo but you cant deny if the stars align, he could be a good pick. Chances are the stars wont align but plenty of trades and factoring in best 18 for most of the first 6 rounds means he is a placeholder. Better to start him than chase him after 2 big games and then endure the disappointment of injury.
- Williams is locked in. Safety in numbers. He is way underpriced and while injury risk is HUGE, you cant deny that all he needs to do is get on the park for 5-6 rounds and he will score enough. Job is done. If he wasnt as popular and we had a few less trades (& given bye in round 2) i might have considered not starting him but under these circumstances i think you almost have to lock him in as he can go at 90+
- Curtin and Coffield hopefully get on the park and score OK.

Mids
- Bont and Butters have been locked and loaded for a LONG time. Bont may not be value for money but i want him as C or VC when he produces a 160 early in the season. I can understand going for someone cheaper but Bont just seems a stress free option for VC or C every round. Butters is an absolute jet. Seems to go quiet - by his very high standards - at times which means he could potentially have more upside than people even realise. Just a gun player and a privilege to watch at full flight. Lock him in
- Newcombe is a gun. Not a prolific SC scorer but should have upside and although i dont think his ceiling is elite, he should go at 110ish because of his tackling and contested possession winning ability. Will lead from the front. Steele can hopefully get back to being 'the man' in that midfield. Has potential, worth a look at that price. Wont go backwards, but hopefully will up that average again. Martin to be unleashed off half back. Lots of upside but a big benefit of this pick is he will be a defender by round 7.
- Rookies are all placeholders but Mckercher and Sanders look like being gun scorers. The other 4 should get games and i think all should have decent scoring potential. Particularly Sinn off half back & Sharp running on the big wings in the west.

Rucks
- Gawndy is a go. I like big Rowan but dont have the cash. Maley is cheap and that R/F status should help at some point

Forwards
- Flanders has been talked up large by Dimma. Owens is just a gun player. Hopefully translates to a big SC season but may not neccesarily.
- Fyfe and Harmes are risky (particularly Fyfe) but both can score well given the right role. Harmes is almost locked in for me but Fyfe is very much on the fringe. Lots of trades helps though and he is popular so a little safety in numbers. Big risk/reward. Harmes seems to be safer but may not quite have the upside of Fyfe.
- Rookies are placeholders but look like guns

I will quickly note that i do have a fair few round 0 players now but shouldnt be too much of a worry. Gawn and Rivers out in round 6 is not ideal but i like both of them so ill go with it.

So, there you have it. My mid-priced madness team. MADNESS being the operative word there

Rip it to shreds guys!

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Few changes, Sheez comes in, mainly just because of the hawks defender issues meaning Sicily becomes less of a certainty starter and more an upgrade target.

Martin and Wardlaw I'll keep eyes on, may end up going safer with another premo. Rookie roulette will cause chaos with this team before round 1.

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I like it. Windhager and Wardlaw are both good PODs with potentially plenty of upside. I like the balance in your midfield with the 4 guns and Martin plus Wardlaw. If you can get away with that forwardline, absolutely go for it. I think at this stage, there should be enough good rookies so starting 3 is very feasible whereas in past seasons that wouldve been more difficult to swing.
 
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This is where I’m at, 5.9k spare:
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One thing that stands out is the lack of mid pricers. Williams is the only one currently which allows me to have 13 premiums/speculative picks. I may drop one of Steele/Martin down to a mid pricer in MID or DEF (Wardlaw, Sheldrick, Budarick, T.Dow, Berry) to upgrade a FWD rookie to a mid pricer (Fyfe, Harmes, Billings). Have been running a 5/5/2/0 premo setup for most of preseason until the past week.

DEF: Stewart has been locked in for a while now. Has the least question marks of all the 600k+ defenders in my opinion, especially after Blanck’s injury. Houston has only recently been in my drafts. Usually a player that you can pick up for much cheaper due to his inconsistency. But given he has 7 of his first 10 at AO where he averaged 116.1 in games there last season (including finals), I’m willing to take that risk. Was also much more consistent at home than away. Sheezel has been a mainstay for a while now. Missed out on Daicos last year and I’m not missing out this time. Not too worried about Fisher. Young one of my first picked. Williams is pretty much a must have unless he gets injured before round 1. Point scoring is not an issue. Just needs to stay on the park. Not worried about Curtin, watched him very closely last year, star in the making. Gibcus should be good for 150k if he stays fit. Phillips must be a decent shot of making the 22, VFL stats looks good. See how he goes in the praccy’s.

MID:
Tossing up between the Adelaide boys and still far from a final decision. Dawson in there for now. Butters is the most settled of the premo MIDs. Hoping Wines doesn’t affect him too much. Brayshaw the pick of the Freo boys for now. Have had just Serong or even both in other drafts. Highly likely I’ll start at least 1. LDU fighting with a few others for a spot. Think he has the best scoring potential of any mid around or under his price, but weary of his injury history. Steele hasn’t been in many drafts but starting to warm to it. Probably the one to drop if I moved to 5 MID premos. Martin has overtaken Amon for the speculative premo spot. Have heard some big wraps on him from training and Amon has some uncertainty with the Hawks backline situation. McKercher and Sanders both locks. Sharp, Clark and Sinn are my top 3 123k MID rookies for now, obviously only placeholders.

RUC:
Gawn
and Grundy fairly set in stone. Given Marshall and Darcy some thought, but the value is too good to pass up and too risky to fade given their ownerships. R3 has been chopping and changing and have Naismith there for now. If someone <200k plays round 1 I’ll start them, if not, I’ll just go down to Livingstone.

FWD:
Have been running a no premo forward line for most of preseason, but I’ve ended up going for Flanders. Hardwick’s comments have swayed me. Reid is the biggest lock in the game. Lazzaro should play round 1. Whether he gets enough midfield time is the question. Macrae should score well if he plays, but does he? R0 will help. If he’s selected, Sexton will be in my team. The role is too good. Mannagh I thought would be a lock for a best 22 spot, but there is still some doubt. Lock if selected. Wilson has had a good preseason by reports, hopefully manages a game. Darcy holding down F8. Placeholder for a 123k rookie.
 

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Dusty and Flanders currently the only forwards under consideration above $300,000 but may opt to wait on the forward line until the end of the best 18 rounds. H Himmelberg, H, Sheezel, J Dawson, R Laird and J Kelly also under consideration in the mid and def premium spots.
 
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Dusty and Flanders currently the only forwards under consideration above $300,000 but may opt to wait on the forward line until the end of the best 18 rounds. H Himmelberg, H, Sheezel, J Dawson, R Laird and J Kelly also under consideration in the mid and def premium spots.
I love it, the forward line worries me but I've been running a similar structure at times. Billings - is he up to it, I'm not sure. He has burn me written all over him I reckon and if Melbourne need a whipping boy, I reckon he has the resume to fullfill that role.

Parish I like, Touk not so much and not sure why, he certainly has the numbers from previous years to take a punt on.

Not sure Sweet is worth the coin at R3.

Like the D'Am pick in defence, I'm watching him for sure especially if Williams doesn't get up.
 

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I love it, the forward line worries me but I've been running a similar structure at times. Billings - is he up to it, I'm not sure. He has burn me written all over him I reckon and if Melbourne need a whipping boy, I reckon he has the resume to fullfill that role.

Parish I like, Touk not so much and not sure why, he certainly has the numbers from previous years to take a punt on.

Not sure Sweet is worth the coin at R3.

Like the D'Am pick in defence, I'm watching him for sure especially if Williams doesn't get up.
Thanks. Hopefully we get a playing ruck to use at R3 as I do not want to start a donut given one will likely appear after a few rounds and with all the early byes. Sweet’s price point allows easy switches to other positions (eg Roberts or Gibcus) if necessary.

Would like a piece of the Hawks early if a few of their key players are missing (Moore, Day, etc). Have considered Mackenzie at F1 but prefer D’Ambrosio if he receives the wing role if Amon is played down back. Prefer to play him and Burgoyne at those last two onfield positions rather than playing key position players to cover the Williams bye. Added bonus is structure/selections elsewhere do not have to change if I remove Williams.
 
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This is where I’m at, 5.9k spare:
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One thing that stands out is the lack of mid pricers. Williams is the only one currently which allows me to have 13 premiums/speculative picks. I may drop one of Steele/Martin down to a mid pricer in MID or DEF (Wardlaw, Sheldrick, Budarick, T.Dow, Berry) to upgrade a FWD rookie to a mid pricer (Fyfe, Harmes, Billings). Have been running a 5/5/2/0 premo setup for most of preseason until the past week.

DEF: Stewart has been locked in for a while now. Has the least question marks of all the 600k+ defenders in my opinion, especially after Blanck’s injury. Houston has only recently been in my drafts. Usually a player that you can pick up for much cheaper due to his inconsistency. But given he has 7 of his first 10 at AO where he averaged 116.1 in games there last season (including finals), I’m willing to take that risk. Was also much more consistent at home than away. Sheezel has been a mainstay for a while now. Missed out on Daicos last year and I’m not missing out this time. Not too worried about Fisher. Young one of my first picked. Williams is pretty much a must have unless he gets injured before round 1. Point scoring is not an issue. Just needs to stay on the park. Not worried about Curtin, watched him very closely last year, star in the making. Gibcus should be good for 150k if he stays fit. Phillips must be a decent shot of making the 22, VFL stats looks good. See how he goes in the praccy’s.

MID:
Tossing up between the Adelaide boys and still far from a final decision. Dawson in there for now. Butters is the most settled of the premo MIDs. Hoping Wines doesn’t affect him too much. Brayshaw the pick of the Freo boys for now. Have had just Serong or even both in other drafts. Highly likely I’ll start at least 1. LDU fighting with a few others for a spot. Think he has the best scoring potential of any mid around or under his price, but weary of his injury history. Steele hasn’t been in many drafts but starting to warm to it. Probably the one to drop if I moved to 5 MID premos. Martin has overtaken Amon for the speculative premo spot. Have heard some big wraps on him from training and Amon has some uncertainty with the Hawks backline situation. McKercher and Sanders both locks. Sharp, Clark and Sinn are my top 3 123k MID rookies for now, obviously only placeholders.

RUC:
Gawn
and Grundy fairly set in stone. Given Marshall and Darcy some thought, but the value is too good to pass up and too risky to fade given their ownerships. R3 has been chopping and changing and have Naismith there for now. If someone <200k plays round 1 I’ll start them, if not, I’ll just go down to Livingstone.

FWD:
Have been running a no premo forward line for most of preseason, but I’ve ended up going for Flanders. Hardwick’s comments have swayed me. Reid is the biggest lock in the game. Lazzaro should play round 1. Whether he gets enough midfield time is the question. Macrae should score well if he plays, but does he? R0 will help. If he’s selected, Sexton will be in my team. The role is too good. Mannagh I thought would be a lock for a best 22 spot, but there is still some doubt. Lock if selected. Wilson has had a good preseason by reports, hopefully manages a game. Darcy holding down F8. Placeholder for a 123k rookie.
Great team
 
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This is where I'm at at the minute. 31.8k itb.
If Conway is looking worth starting at R3 I can drop Harmes down to someone like Windsor.
Happy with the general structure though and all the premo picks, pending any news or unforseen need to free up extra cash.
D8/M11/F8 all pretty uncertain but I'm sure those spots become clearer in the next few weeks.

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Would like a piece of the Hawks early if a few of their key players are missing (Moore, Day, etc). Have considered Mackenzie at F1 but prefer D’Ambrosio if he receives the wing role if Amon is played down back. Prefer to play him and Burgoyne at those last two onfield positions rather than playing key position players to cover the Williams bye. Added bonus is structure/selections elsewhere do not have to change if I remove Williams.
Doesn't really fit your current team, but you may want to consider Hustwaite. I'm expecting his current 2.5% ownership might be a bit higher by this time tomorrow. Pity he is Mid only. Apparently been having a good pre season. Played reasonably well in Rd 23 last year in his first game, the whole team was rubbish in Rd 24, not just him. He's one of the players I'm most interested to see how they perform tomorrow.

D'Ambrosio should be a good pick too, like that selection. Maybe Macdonald as another option for your F1, but think he is probably well out of the price range you want.

Wait and see how they go tomorrow I guess.
 
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