Discussion 2024: Rate My Team

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At the risk of ridicule, but relying on the nous and spirit of SCS, can you guys help me in my hour of need? I've had so little time to prepare this pre-season a ritual time in which I habitually waste so much. I probably should have sat out given my current circumstances - time poor and having recently said goodbye to my dad, my head has been elsewhere - but I decided there wasn't much to lose, and this place is one I love being part of during the footy season. Anyway, not looking for sympathy, but just a little last-minute advice.

I have the luxury of only having to lock in Pies and Swans till tomorrow, but feedback on anything and everything - what do I need to get this ship afloat, and spread that 300k around to do so. I know I'm rookie-heavy as I built from the ground up, but I'm really liking Houston, questioning Martin, my mids seem thin... I could go on, but I won't. All opinions appreciated.

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I’m sorry to hear that mate.

Let’s have a look at your side after you’ve had a chance to digest the above feedback and we can run our eyes over it again.
 

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I don’t think I’ve posted my team this season, so here it is below.

I am less worried about taking on R0 premiums and midpricers than some other coaches, but only want to do so where I think there is a good tradeoff (eg for a discounted player, or good cash gen potential).

Very happy to hear any feedback.

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I’m sorry to hear that mate.

Let’s have a look at your side after you’ve had a chance to digest the above feedback and we can run our eyes over it again.
Thanks @Darkie

Here's how I'm looking now. Still a few decisions to make. Not sure on Lyons or Martin, so much - could go down to a cheaper option somewhere and Martin up to a proven premo - but it's looking a bit more solid.

Have at it. Anyones input is appreciated.

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Thanks @Darkie

Here's how I'm looking now. Still a few decisions to make. Not sold on Lyons so much, but it's looking a bit more solid.

Have at it.

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Looking really good to me. I’ve now posted my side above, so you can probably see some of the X vs Ys and which way I’ve jumped, but many of your choices are perfectly valid and popular options.

Things I noticed/would consider:

- Set a forward emergency. Not sure why, but it seems like a few coaches have had this issue, probably worth everyone checking!

- Stewart was one I really liked. He has an injury game in last year’s average, has somehow improved every year, and apparently has a good draw (DFS has this info). I have trimmed him to make room given I think it’s hard to say he’s underpriced as a defender at his price, but he seems a lock to be a top player on his line. He’s an option if you need cash as I see it, but a fine albeit somewhat less popular choice. Holmes may play back a bit FYI, but seems like he will get thrown around at times.

- I have reservations about game count on Green (and LDU and Butters), maybe just check that you’re happy with that. Given he has the bye, you’re obviously not taking him to avoid that, but I think some people are steering towards players with poorish game count records to avoid a bye, which I grapple with. Maybe just check for that if you do any further tinkering.

- Martin is a risk, but you will presumably have a good eye on his role. I think you just chop him if he’s not playing in defence, and it’s fine. Wines could be an alternative that almost certainly has the role you want him to have, and seems to have a good draw too. Some good coaches are very bullish on Martin though. Martin has better keeper potential too, and you’ve gone light enough in defence that making room shouldn’t be an issue.

- Lyons is a bit dear for the bench. I can see you have the same Gibcus/Daicos setup that I do, so I assume that structure adjusts next round, which is good.

- Rucks look good to me. You can potentially do a “best of” loop with Jackson and Livingstone some rounds, given (I assume) the WA sides still play a lot of Sunday games (I haven’t checked Freo).

- Forwards look great on field. I’m a bit wary of Cadman - he seems to have shown very limited scoring capacity except at VFL level - but his JS is at least decent, and he is doing a little bit of ruck work (albeit not necessarily that well IIRC). If you can get him up to someone else, that could be good.

- I would consider getting Lazarro in, maybe as a Cadman replacement. [Then you can have the same forward line as me 🙂] Alternately having a bit of spare cash is likely to be quite handy in R2 and 3. Williams may be one you want to fit in, for example.

Much of this is tinkering around the edges as I see it. I think your side is in good shape.
 
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Looking really good to me. I’ve now posted my side above, so you can probably see some of the X vs Ys and which way I’ve jumped, but many of your choices are perfectly valid and popular options.

Things I noticed/would consider:

- Set a forward emergency. Not sure why, but it seems like a few coaches have had this issue, probably worth everyone checking!

- Stewart was one I really liked. He has an injury game in last year’s average, has somehow improved every year, and apparently has a good draw (DFS has this info). I have trimmed him to make room given I think it’s hard to say he’s underpriced as a defender at his price, but he seems a lock to be a top player on his line. He’s an option if you need cash as I see it, but a fine albeit somewhat less popular choice. Holmes may play back a bit FYI, but seems like he will get thrown around at times.

- I have reservations about game count on Green (and LDU and Butters), maybe just check that you’re happy with that. Given he has the bye, you’re obviously not taking him to avoid that, but I think some people are steering towards players with poorish game count records to avoid a bye, which I grapple with. Maybe just check for that if you do any further tinkering.

- Martin is a risk, but you will presumably have a good eye on his role. I think you just chop him if he’s not playing in defence, and it’s fine. Wines could be an alternative that almost certainly has the role you want him to have, and seems to have a good draw too. Some good coaches are very bullish on Martin though. Martin has better keeper potential too, and you’ve gone light enough in defence that making room shouldn’t be an issue.

- Lyons is a bit dear for the bench. I can see you have the same Gibcus/Daicos setup that I do, so I assume that structure adjusts next round, which is good.

- Rucks look good to me. You can potentially do a “best of” loop with Jackson and Livingstone some rounds, given (I assume) the WA sides still play a lot of Sunday games (I haven’t checked Freo).

- Forwards look great on field. I’m a bit wary of Cadman - he seems to have shown very limited scoring capacity except at VFL level - but his JS is at least decent, and he is doing a little bit of ruck work (albeit not necessarily that well IIRC). If you can get him up to someone else, that could be good.

- I would consider getting Lazarro in, maybe as a Cadman replacement. [Then you can have the same forward line as me 🙂] Alternately having a bit of spare cash is likely to be quite handy in R2 and 3. Williams may be one you want to fit in, for example.

Much of this is tinkering around the edges as I see it. I think your side is in good shape.
Thanks Darkie, a few similar thoughts that I’m having so at least I’m not way off. I had Lazzaro, Lyons is a bit of place holder at the moment and I’m not 100% on Martin… so Lyons down to Lazzaro and Martin to Proven premo up might be an option.

Re. Stewart - if he starts like last year i won’t be happy. I have considered Houston though.

Re Green. I’ve really found the bye strategy hard to get, coupled with 40 trades - so still a bit thin on best approach.

Thanks for the advice there. Couple of of hours to make major decisions…
 
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Thanks Darkie, a few similar thoughts that I’m having so at least I’m not way off. I had Lazzaro, Lyons is a bit of place holder at the moment and I’m not 100% on Martin… so Lyons down to Lazzaro and Martin to Proven premo up might be an option.

Re. Stewart - if he starts like last year i won’t be happy. I have considered Houston though.

Re Green. I’ve really found the bye strategy hard to get, coupled with 40 trades - so still a bit thin on best approach.

Thanks for the advice there. Couple of of hours to make major decisions…
Good stuff.

Re the byes, my opinion (not overly popular?) is that a R0 premium gives up c. 50 points because they get replaced by a rookie when they have their extra bye.

50 points across 23 rounds is only c. 2ppg or $11k.

So if a R0 premium is discounted by $11k more than/is $11k more attractive than the non R0 premium they are going head to head for a spot with, they’re in for me.

Others have done the calc differently, or simply steered away more aggressively, but this makes sense to me.
 
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This is how I'll set up for now. Cadman might change before this arvo, but have left enough cash for Gibcus to Williams next week (et al.)
Will roll the dice on Martin for now.
I had Laird in my first iteration, so makes sense to start him after considering Greene's double byes.

Just have to work out my rookie roulette at this stage - I wish I could be at the MCG today but, I can sit here and muck around with my team before the next games, especially if Essendon start tanking early.

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Good luck everyone. Thanks for your help.
 
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Good stuff.

Re the byes, my opinion (not overly popular?) is that a R0 premium gives up c. 50 points because they get replaced by a rookie when they have their extra bye.

50 points across 23 rounds is only c. 2ppg or $11k.

So if a R0 premium is discounted by $11k more than/is $11k more attractive than the non R0 premium they are going head to head for a spot with, they’re in for me.

Others have done the calc differently, or simply steered away more aggressively, but this makes sense to me.
I think the timeframe is until others can trade them in rather than the whole season. I thinks it's more around the 7-10 point range. I can also see some slingshots in rnd 5 and 6 being of value. If Heeney keeps flying I can see him to Green in rnd 5 being a possibility.
 

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I think the timeframe is until others can trade them in rather than the whole season. I thinks it's more around the 7-10 point range. I can also see some slingshots in rnd 5 and 6 being of value. If Heeney keeps flying I can see him to Green in rnd 5 being a possibility.
I initially thought that too, but you get to use the loose change for the whole season, so I think that’s the relevant timeframe.
 
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Worried about running one premo short but thinking the extra cash could be better used next week to make an early trade (of injured player/worst performer in any position) - likely Z. Reid (via Daicos) - for Heeney next week.

Heeney could be a keeper, dependent upon role when some of the injured Swans midfield return, but at the minimum he could be a great cash (and points) grab for the next few weeks then upgraded at his bye.

If I spend the cash this week if would likely be Bonner to M. Crouch but thinking Bonner will well exceed what he's priced at.

Interested in any/all thoughts.

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As Under the Dome said, those rookies and many other questionable picks but hey, as I said mate, not trying to offend, just trying to help.
If you don't know a heck of a lot about the players or Footy, maybe just have a good scan through the rate my team thread to check out what many talented coaches are putting together regarding their squads. No harm in copycatting Ballarating someone else's team you like the look of, and then putting your own changes/spin into it.
Made some adjustments prior to R1 and much happier with this line up IMG_3592.jpeg
 
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@Vicwood I’m sure you will, but isn’t it better to have Grundy on the bench with the E in case he gets injured or just has a super low SC score and gives you the option to loop Jackson over and field a fwd rookie in his place
Yes, you are correct, this work thing sometimes get in the way and simple things are missed. Cost me a few points at least i had the E on him. I did see one depressed coach have Gawn on the bench to loop VC #35 .....just forgot to put the E on Gawn.
 
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