Opinion 2024 AFL SuperCoach Planning Thread

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For those that are able to watch the Suns v Giants game later today, can you please watch Connor Budarick's role/ how many kick ins etc - liked what I saw in his first practice game/ tempting at his price.

Thanks in advance (y)
Will be interesting to see how the Suns defenders look.

Generally GWS are a very tough match-up for defenders, so scores won't be too relevant, but will keep an eye out for roles.

I expect Lemmens Collins Budarick Sexton Ballard Powell Swallow to be the 7 defenders, with Uwland potentially squeezed out tonight. But Powell is returning from injury so maybe they'll go with a half from Powell and a half from Uwland.

And yes will keep an eye out mate (y):cool:
 
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Should you be starting a Mid, that you only hope can hit 105, and make $100k?
Seems the upside result is still short of what you want/need.
Think you're right Rowsus, I'm reconsidering Martin now as he'll probably have to be traded anyway.
Rowsus comment was re Wines who is a mid playing mid.

Martin is a mid who is playing defence. If the role sticks and ave 105, that will be pushing keeper status for defence based on 2023 averages and who is a defender in 2024.

Martin a watch for me. Will depend how he scores and looks and if the spare change can be used.
 
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Not a comment directed at anyone (or about any player) but I’m staggered at how few keepers it seems people are starting. Maybe I’m old school but surely you want as many keepers as possible as it means trades and be on improving your team and not fixing the poorer non keeper players. Don’t mind 1-2 speculative breakout types but the core should still be solid keepers..
 
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Daniel Curtin has an ingrown toenail hence missed crows training yesterday.
Oh yes, how is the old toenail? Still growing in, still burrowing its way down to the bone, still macheteing its way through the nerve? Nasty old nail. It'll be out in the morning, poor little devil. I wonder if they'd mount it for him, just for old time's sake. I'm sure it's worth asking.
 
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I'm not entirely convinced Martin will play the whole year at half-back. Have to remember he's a potential All-Australian-quality goal-kicking winger and could easily get put back into that position at any time if the half-back experiment doesn't work out or if we get an injury . Also Essendon doesn't have a set kick-in taker and never has - Ridley, Redman, McGrath and I guess now Martin will all share those duties - so he can't be relied upon for that 10-20 point kick-in boost that most of the 100+ defenders get.

Just through natural improvement he should push a 100 average but not sure if he will average a lot more than that. Just my opinion.
I suppose 100av would be enough for D6. I don’t see him pushing much past $550k if all goes well so there is not a massive premium if you adopt a ‘watch and wait’ strategy.
 
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Not a comment directed at anyone (or about any player) but I’m staggered at how few keepers it seems people are starting. Maybe I’m old school but surely you want as many keepers as possible as it means trades and be on improving your team and not fixing the poorer non keeper players. Don’t mind 1-2 speculative breakout types but the core should still be solid keepers..
The game has evolved from that old school approach given all the extra trades they keep slapping on year after year...

With the extra trades, everyone can afford to start more speculative breakout types now. If your breakout player fails, you can easily jump to a better breakout player in the first few rounds before upgrade season for much less downside (as we have alot more trades to burn).

Generally, you will find teams with the correct breakout players will outperform teams fielding more rookies in a traditional "guns and rookies" setup now. That is what we have seen over the previous few seasons anyway...
 
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Not a comment directed at anyone (or about any player) but I’m staggered at how few keepers it seems people are starting. Maybe I’m old school but surely you want as many keepers as possible as it means trades and be on improving your team and not fixing the poorer non keeper players. Don’t mind 1-2 speculative breakout types but the core should still be solid keepers..
This year I think this is combination of factors. Includes (in no particular order) lack of fwd premos/keepers, large number of high end rookies that look startable and use up cash (Reid, McKercher, Sander et al) and yet another increase in trades. Currently going with 12 keepers and high end rookie priced players but also have some cash to help keep things flexible. Have no one between 480 to 260k but keeping an eye on a couple of possibles.
 
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I suppose 100av would be enough for D6. I don’t see him pushing much past $550k if all goes well so there is not a massive premium if you adopt a ‘watch and wait’ strategy.
I also think it's dangerous picking Martin and just assuming he will get DPP at some point. We're currently trailing him as an attacking defender but I don't think that role is set in stone. Our defence isn't good enough to cover a purely attacking defender and he could easily get swapped out for a Kelly/Laverde type if we need a more 1-on-1 defender. By Round 3-4 he could be back playing that wing role he dominated so many games in last year and if he stays as a Mid only then a potential average of 100-105 won't be good enough.

I think he's a watch and wait as well. I don't think it'll hurt to not start him.
 
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The game has evolved from that old school approach given all the extra trades they keep slapping on year after year...

With the extra trades, everyone can afford to start more speculative breakout types now. If your breakout player fails, you can easily jump to a better breakout player in the first few rounds before upgrade season for much less downside (as we have alot more trades to burn).

Generally, you will find teams with the correct breakout players will outperform teams fielding more rookies in a traditional "guns and rookies" setup now. That is what we have seen over the previous few seasons anyway...
Yes and no.. no doubt there is a need to reduce rookie scores early with a mix of either some mid price or speculative breakout guys, but all the extra trades don’t necessarily translate to allowing extra risk because you can still only use a set amount per week. So round 3, do you want to grab the rookies you missed, sideways a speculative pick, fix a mid pricer.. even with a boost you can only do 3. Most people are using those boosts more effectively to facilitate upgrades and value growth. And even then, you can have a team with 11 premiums and 9 keepers, or 12 premiums and 6-7 keepers.. I would back in the first one as they can spend 40 trades improving a smaller number of positions. Needing to use 40 trades to get 16 premiums (plus cover injuries) isn’t setting up for success I don’t think.
 
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This year I think this is combination of factors. Includes (in no particular order) lack of fwd premos/keepers, large number of high end rookies that look startable and use up cash (Reid, McKercher, Sander et al) and yet another increase in trades. Currently going with 12 keepers and high end rookie priced players but also have some cash to help keep things flexible. Have no one between 480 to 260k but keeping an eye on a couple of possibles.
Yeah agree there a lot of factors at play, I just feel I’m seeing a low number of consensus top 6/8 keepers. I can see a lot of these teams with compromised lines that have 2-3 D6/F6 types or too many M7/M8 types.
 
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Oh yes, how is the old toenail? Still growing in, still burrowing its way down to the bone, still macheteing its way through the nerve? Nasty old nail. It'll be out in the morning, poor little devil. I wonder if they'd mount it for him, just for old time's sake. I'm sure it's worth asking.
Sybil Curtis it is
 

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This year I think this is combination of factors. Includes (in no particular order) lack of fwd premos/keepers, large number of high end rookies that look startable and use up cash (Reid, McKercher, Sander et al) and yet another increase in trades. Currently going with 12 keepers and high end rookie priced players but also have some cash to help keep things flexible. Have no one between 480 to 260k but keeping an eye on a couple of possibles.
12 Keepers. Multiple high end Rookies. Cash left over. :eek:
You, sir, are a marvel! (y)
 
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Yeah agree there a lot of factors at play, I just feel I’m seeing a low number of consensus top 6/8 keepers. I can see a lot of these teams with compromised lines that have 2-3 D6/F6 types or too many M7/M8 types.
Valid comment. IMO you need a min 10 keepers and at least 3 or 4 of them top liner C options. Nothing wrong with having speculative picks but I think best to keep them to the Fwd/Def lines and two or maybe three at a stretch. Picking injury risk guys like Zwilliams and Fyfe then adding role dependent guys like Billings just compounds the danger of things getting too messy to fix even with extra trades. Can understand a N Martin or Amos pick if you are convinced the role change will come off but really you are picking them to specifically move them to Def as keepers. I do not think it is hard to find guys that are going to improve in the new season but just because they are going to improve does not always mean they are a good SC pick.
 
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I'm finding it hard to commit to Martin when it results in having to fade one of Daicos, Sicily, Stewart, Sinclair, Houston or Sheezel in my final defence.

Injuries might happen sure, but I don't want to bank on it right now.
So basically you think the top 6 defenders in 2024 are going to be almost the same as 2023?
Seems unlikely to me.
Unforeseen things will happen.
 
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