Opinion 2024 AFL SuperCoach Planning Thread
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Agree that the side isn’t the same but he did have a pretty good Boak go at around 107 in there with him. Think the preferred mid options always contains Wines + 2 of the other blokes mentioned.
We know Rozee is more outside so I don’t think that there is no room for wines to return to the 105 we want. Not saying it will definitely happen but I think that its lax to completely disregard tho potential that he does return to premium scoring.
For all their deficiencies Port are a pretty good H&A side and will likely continue that way this year. Until we see JHF start to find the footy a bit more consistently I think there’s room along side the others for a pure in and under mid.
We know Rozee is more outside so I don’t think that there is no room for wines to return to the 105 we want. Not saying it will definitely happen but I think that its lax to completely disregard tho potential that he does return to premium scoring.
For all their deficiencies Port are a pretty good H&A side and will likely continue that way this year. Until we see JHF start to find the footy a bit more consistently I think there’s room along side the others for a pure in and under mid.
Important to get the balance correct.
I understand the balance argument but I also worry about being able to generate enough money to facilitate upgrades to the super premium options that rarely have bad games causing price drops.
Leaning towards starting all of Bont/Trac/Daicos as I see those 3 guys being the top 3 in SC this year, Gawn & English could well be in that conversation also obviously.
I understand the balance argument but I also worry about being able to generate enough money to facilitate upgrades to the super premium options that rarely have bad games causing price drops.
Leaning towards starting all of Bont/Trac/Daicos as I see those 3 guys being the top 3 in SC this year, Gawn & English could well be in that conversation also obviously.
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This is what I'm struggling with. Petracca's career-best season came with him attending just 61% CBAs in a mid/fwd role, with his clearances, disposals, uncontested possessions, tackles and inside 50s down on his 2021 numbers (when he averaged 111.4), and this is with Oliver missing half the season.
If Oliver is underdone to start 2024, does that help or hinder Petracca? With Brayshaw now retired, does that help or hinder Petracca? I don't know if a simple "in the guts therefore more midfield minutes therefore SC upside" equation necessarily applies without caveats in the case of Petracca who scores so well beasting forward of centre. It didn't help that he cruised through his Community Series match without doing anything of note.
The Demons midfield dynamic feels like it's in a state of flux so I feel there's a lot of uncertainty there, which doesn't help in o***etting the shortfall in Rd 6 versus those who plump for a non Rd 0 player in that spot (Butters/Dawson/Serong/LDU).
If Oliver is underdone to start 2024, does that help or hinder Petracca? With Brayshaw now retired, does that help or hinder Petracca? I don't know if a simple "in the guts therefore more midfield minutes therefore SC upside" equation necessarily applies without caveats in the case of Petracca who scores so well beasting forward of centre. It didn't help that he cruised through his Community Series match without doing anything of note.
The Demons midfield dynamic feels like it's in a state of flux so I feel there's a lot of uncertainty there, which doesn't help in o***etting the shortfall in Rd 6 versus those who plump for a non Rd 0 player in that spot (Butters/Dawson/Serong/LDU).
All I can say is '40 trades' 
2-3 early correction trades
Close to 14 downgrade trades to upgrade 7 onfield rookies in a perfect world
2-4 more downgrades to fund 4 mid pricers upgrades
That's getting close to 30.
A few injuries/suspensions.
Yet a lot are mentioning sideways trading premiums with early Byes.
Sling shots through the other Bye rounds.
Going to be some interesting strategies.
Wondering if starting a price type of Amon/Crouch/Holmes/Martin/Wines/Yeo etc could be viable to try and get a Gulden or Oliver/Petracca after their early Bye or just a waste of 1-2 trades
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If a starting rookie has made $ 125-150k by Round 7 they are probably scoring well enough not to trade out.
Depends if and when the bubble boys appear as well.
Be interesting if Oliver , Petracca , Daicos , Dunkley , Gulden , Green , Neale for example throw out a sub par Round zero score.
Although I guess it will still only be in the price cycle for 1 game.
Other options might be to keep $ 100k in the Bank which seems possible with Grundy R2 and the midprice/rookie forward line
If a starting rookie has made $ 125-150k by Round 7 they are probably scoring well enough not to trade out.
Depends if and when the bubble boys appear as well.
Be interesting if Oliver , Petracca , Daicos , Dunkley , Gulden , Green , Neale for example throw out a sub par Round zero score.
Although I guess it will still only be in the price cycle for 1 game.
Other options might be to keep $ 100k in the Bank which seems possible with Grundy R2 and the midprice/rookie forward line
Fair bit of chat lately on the merits of starting MP's and I'd like to offer my thoughts, beit as they may.
I'll just use Crouch as an example. I'm starting him with the intent of trading him out before his rnd 15 bye, he's my M5 and priced at 88, I'd be happy with a 95-100 from that position. He's $160k cheaper than a premo mid and I can use those funds to 'upgrade' my 30th player to another MP and hopefully earn around 30 more PPG from that position, those funds could also be used to upgrade a Steele to a Bont.
The reason I'd be happy with 95-100 is that when I trade him out (hopefully one of my last upgrades) then I'll effectively have a position in the mids that is not exposed to any byes, particularly if I upgrade to an Oliver type coming off his 2 byes and this is where I'm finding the value. The 2 bye cost is around 100pts, more if that player is the 2nd or 3rd player on each of his 2 byes. That 100pts equates to 6-7PPG over the early part of the season, effectively raising Crouch's output to 101-107. The added bonus is just a 2 trade cost to get Clarry in where the normal cost could well be 3 trades.
Now if, and of course it's a big 'if', if I apply that rationale to 3 other positions then I could well be 400pts better off than those starting premos that'll have 2 byes. To me it's just another form of upgrading. There was a stat from 2 years ago showing that more MP's than rookies made the $150k that we all hope for. Not forgetting the upgrading of my 29th-27th rookie which should generate substantial point gains as well as having those players with better JS thus (hopefully) avoiding the dreaded sub vest.
I've more than likely made some assumptions that are NQR and probably placing too much hope on getting the MP's right, however with all the info out there I'm reasonably comfortable starting my chosen MP's.
The extra byes and extra trades have thrown up a completely different landscape to the game compared to what it was even last year.
I'll just use Crouch as an example. I'm starting him with the intent of trading him out before his rnd 15 bye, he's my M5 and priced at 88, I'd be happy with a 95-100 from that position. He's $160k cheaper than a premo mid and I can use those funds to 'upgrade' my 30th player to another MP and hopefully earn around 30 more PPG from that position, those funds could also be used to upgrade a Steele to a Bont.
The reason I'd be happy with 95-100 is that when I trade him out (hopefully one of my last upgrades) then I'll effectively have a position in the mids that is not exposed to any byes, particularly if I upgrade to an Oliver type coming off his 2 byes and this is where I'm finding the value. The 2 bye cost is around 100pts, more if that player is the 2nd or 3rd player on each of his 2 byes. That 100pts equates to 6-7PPG over the early part of the season, effectively raising Crouch's output to 101-107. The added bonus is just a 2 trade cost to get Clarry in where the normal cost could well be 3 trades.
Now if, and of course it's a big 'if', if I apply that rationale to 3 other positions then I could well be 400pts better off than those starting premos that'll have 2 byes. To me it's just another form of upgrading. There was a stat from 2 years ago showing that more MP's than rookies made the $150k that we all hope for. Not forgetting the upgrading of my 29th-27th rookie which should generate substantial point gains as well as having those players with better JS thus (hopefully) avoiding the dreaded sub vest.
I've more than likely made some assumptions that are NQR and probably placing too much hope on getting the MP's right, however with all the info out there I'm reasonably comfortable starting my chosen MP's.
The extra byes and extra trades have thrown up a completely different landscape to the game compared to what it was even last year.