Discussion 2024: Rate My Team

Joined
9 Dec 2020
Messages
2,370
Likes
12,058
AFL Club
Essendon
Cheers bud. Appreciate the positive feedback.

Re Laird: despite talk of forward time, I just don’t buy it. I see him as a predominant mid, hunting the ball around the packs in his usual role when season proper starts. Ultra consistent and I love that he’s a POD (6% ownership) and under everyone’s radar.

R3 plan is to switch Livingston to R3 after cashing in on Naismith which enables flexibility for a fwd or mid trade. Opens up that dpp link with Jackson and I’ll have my r3 captains loop for the rest of the season. Hopefully Naismith can get a decent chunk of games and score well in the absence of Nank. Will be interesting to see where he fits in the side when Nank returns.
Yeah fair.. a big part of SC is sifting through all the noise and reports! I’m probably more worried about the guys to gain mid time.. Rankine, Berry, etc, plus Crouch, Dawson.. just a lot of mouths to feed. I’m happy to watch and see.. if I’m wrong he’s an easy upgrade target but I’m just not sure.
And yeah if Nank is guaranteed out for a while then Naismith makes sense for cash gen but I just don’t think he plays enough. Nank listed at 1-3, one of which is R0.. not sure Naismith makes enough cash to be worth the trade to Livingstone later..
 
Joined
3 May 2017
Messages
2,684
Likes
8,886
AFL Club
Hawthorn
Anyone else not even close to settling on a structure yet?

I’m currently considering a structure where I have Bont at M1 as a captain option followed by 3-4 players within the the 440-530k range in the midfield. Reasoning behind this is because I’m finding it extremely difficult to pinpoint the top 8-10 mids this year. Only ones I’m confident in finishing there are Bont, Daicos and Green. 2 have early byes and 1 is 724k! Hoping that the top echelon of mids can sort themselves out and these guys can be used as stepping stones to them. Feel that I can afford to play this style with 40 trades.

Steele, Flanders, Martin, Crouch, Amon, Wines annd Yeo are the 7 I’m looking at. Obviously some are DPP and could be included in the team on a different line.

Is this structure viable? Never tried something like this before. Don’t hold back if it’s a terrible idea, I won’t take offence.
Half of those value picks are fallen premiums which are normally more reliable value picks. The role change breakout types a bit more speculative, sometimes it doesn't work out. So perhaps a Miller over a Flanders. No issues with the structure per say provided you've got a VC to go with Gawn, for which the Bont seems adequate 😉.

I wouldn't go below 9 picks I couldn't realistically seeing being a good shot at top X in their line. Crouch Wines are the only 2 that won't likely get there on avg score, Yeo on games played, but all are viable value plays regardless. So lets say you're running Fisher as well, those 3 value plays the 4 potential keepers, and Bont and three other premiums, say Gawndy + 1, you're there. Good luck.

X=(6/8/2/6)
 
Joined
26 Jun 2019
Messages
280
Likes
1,170
AFL Club
Collingwood
Yeah fair.. a big part of SC is sifting through all the noise and reports! I’m probably more worried about the guys to gain mid time.. Rankine, Berry, etc, plus Crouch, Dawson.. just a lot of mouths to feed. I’m happy to watch and see.. if I’m wrong he’s an easy upgrade target but I’m just not sure.
And yeah if Nank is guaranteed out for a while then Naismith makes sense for cash gen but I just don’t think he plays enough. Nank listed at 1-3, one of which is R0.. not sure Naismith makes enough cash to be worth the trade to Livingstone later..
There’ll be more movement and mouths to feed but Dawson switching to defence or Rankine/Berry switching mid/forward are the more likely rotations to occur imo. Laird is the staple of that midfield. Also think Crouch back in helps Lairds game. Read somewhere here that it elevates Lairdys scoring and has a negative impact on Dawson. Interesting space to watch play out.
 
Joined
9 Dec 2020
Messages
2,370
Likes
12,058
AFL Club
Essendon
There’ll be more movement and mouths to feed but Dawson switching to defence or Rankine/Berry switching mid/forward are the more likely rotations to occur imo. Laird is the staple of that midfield. Also think Crouch back in helps Lairds game. Read somewhere here that it elevates Lairdys scoring and has a negative impact on Dawson. Interesting space to watch play out.
Definitely interesting.. I have Laird in draft so I’ll be rooting for you!
 
Joined
11 Mar 2019
Messages
566
Likes
1,996
AFL Club
Essendon
Pre Round 0 team

Having Naicos, English and Bont has meant can’t have every top rookie, some will have to be a wait and watch. Would rather 4 Uber mids but with a few questions over many of them thought Jackson was the safer bet. Sheezel may become a premo mid instead, will see how the rookies drop. Few key decisions:
Houston over Stewart due to early AO run
Jordan over Harmes/Billings due to Sydney mid injuries
Williams over Mass for cash.

Watch Grundy smash it tonight and put all plans into disarray!

Any feedback welcome

IMG_7277.jpeg IMG_7276.jpeg
 

Darkie

Leadership Group
Joined
12 Apr 2014
Messages
25,408
Likes
65,486
AFL Club
Collingwood
Cheers bud. Appreciate the positive feedback.

Re Laird: despite talk of forward time, I just don’t buy it. I see him as a predominant mid, hunting the ball around the packs in his usual role when season proper starts. Ultra consistent and I love that he’s a POD (6% ownership) and under everyone’s radar.

R3 plan is to switch Livingston F8 to R3 after cashing in on Naismith which enables flexibility for a fwd or mid trade. Opens up that dpp link with Jackson and I’ll have my r3 captains loop for the rest of the season. Hopefully Naismith can get a decent chunk of games and score well in the absence of Nank. Will be interesting to see where he fits in the side when Nank returns.
I’m a bit skeptical of the Laird forward time idea as well.

He’s been elite since 2015, and in the middle since 2020, and has one season of >3 goals. Doesn’t seem a natural move to me.
 

Darkie

Leadership Group
Joined
12 Apr 2014
Messages
25,408
Likes
65,486
AFL Club
Collingwood
Pre Round 0 team

Having Naicos, English and Bont has meant can’t have every top rookie, some will have to be a wait and watch. Would rather 4 Uber mids but with a few questions over many of them thought Jackson was the safer bet. Sheezel may become a premo mid instead, will see how the rookies drop. Few key decisions:
Houston over Stewart due to early AO run
Jordan over Harmes/Billings due to Sydney mid injuries
Williams over Mass for cash.

Watch Grundy smash it tonight and put all plans into disarray!

Any feedback welcome

View attachment 68807 View attachment 68808
I think captain picks and rookies are both important enough that they shouldn’t be compromising each other. I would be trying to get all the rookies you want and compromise elsewhere.

Gulden to Touk or Houston to Short could be options to consider.
 
Joined
28 Jun 2012
Messages
5,408
Likes
3,683
AFL Club
Bulldogs
Cheers bud. Appreciate the positive feedback.

Re Laird: despite talk of forward time, I just don’t buy it. I see him as a predominant mid, hunting the ball around the packs in his usual role when season proper starts. Ultra consistent and I love that he’s a POD (6% ownership) and under everyone’s radar.

R3 plan is to switch Livingston F8 to R3 after cashing in on Naismith which enables flexibility for a fwd or mid trade. Opens up that dpp link with Jackson and I’ll have my r3 captains loop for the rest of the season. Hopefully Naismith can get a decent chunk of games and score well in the absence of Nank. Will be interesting to see where he fits in the side when Nank returns.
Will also be interesting to see if Nank comes back before a price rise.
 
Joined
17 Feb 2013
Messages
1,474
Likes
3,407
AFL Club
Collingwood
I’m a bit skeptical of the Laird forward time idea as well.

He’s been elite since 2015, and in the middle since 2020, and has one season of >3 goals. Doesn’t seem a natural move to me.
I'd have thought if he was going anywhere it would be to the backline where he made a name for himself in the first place.
 
Joined
9 Dec 2020
Messages
2,370
Likes
12,058
AFL Club
Essendon
I’m a bit skeptical of the Laird forward time idea as well.

He’s been elite since 2015, and in the middle since 2020, and has one season of >3 goals. Doesn’t seem a natural move to me.
I agree doesn’t seem natural or make any sense at all.. but there has enough smoke this preseason that it’s something to consider. He also didn’t light the world on fire against his first few opponents when he played them last year: Gold Coast (112, 93), Geelong (102), Fremantle (97).
He could well come out averaging amazing and going 120+, but he could also start slow.. only needs to lose a few midfield minutes at the wrong parts of the game and he could be a 105-110 scorer that cost $650k.
Just feels like there are safer starting picks, especially as a lot of teams are only starting 2-3 top end mid premiums.
 
Joined
15 Jan 2018
Messages
1,973
Likes
5,007
AFL Club
Richmond
I don't know for sure but i think it might be a bad idea to start such a flaky/risky bunch of midfielders, to me the purpose is to get a solid highest scoring midfield locked in as soon as you can because they're the engine room for Captain's scores and overall points.
I'm seeing a lot of midfields with Steele, Crouch, Martin, Amon, Holmes, guys like that and they might only end up averaging 90's to mid 100's...frustrating you every week with their less than oustanding scores.
I also have psychological damage from last year when I had a ton of injuries early, had to blow all my boosts early on, felt like I was playing catch up for most of the season, then ran out of trades with 6 rounds to go so I'm not taking the 40 trades for granted, you can still run out if you have too many to fix and or replace. Maybe if I was just only ever playing for leagues I wouldn't have tried so hard to catch up so much...and saved a few more trades.
Reminds me of when I was trying to break 100 for the first time in Golf, I was so exasperated trying to get my swing right etc and failing many many times to crack 100, I just decided to try to score 5 on every hole. When I took that pressure off myself it seemed quite easy to strive for a 5 on every hole and I ended up shooting a 96, busting my previous best score by 5 shots.
Maybe what I'm trying to say is, don't overthink it, premium scoring mids are what they are because they get it done, whereas the ones who might get it done but haven't quite got it done yet are just speculation/hope and risk.
Im in too minds about it as well currently running with martin, but ive had all of them in and out of my team as well. Just trying to find players over 600k is a struggle as well with so much mid rotation. Nothing worse than forking out 600+ for a player who under performs. I think thats worse than picking a holmes at 440k who ave 95-100.
 
Joined
17 Feb 2013
Messages
1,474
Likes
3,407
AFL Club
Collingwood
1709767831371.png

Started with the rookies, then Daicos and Gawn for Captain picks. Then looked at which 4 players I think can enter the mid top 8 this year.

Had to drop Gulden because 6 round 0 players is too many. As it is, I've still 5 but don't know who to cull now. Each has a strong value proposition except for Daicos who has a captain proposition and who I also don't want to have to hate-watch for the first month. Anyway, Gulden down to Martin (future D6 and/or floating supersub) and Massimo, getting the Gibcus/Reid/Coffield issue off field.

So I'm now not having any more than 1 missing premo in each of the first round of byes, except for round 5, with Nick and Reg. Not the way I want to do it but which of those guys to drop?

1. Don't want to hate-watch Nick. I guess I could go to Tom Stewart in a pinch but there is zero value there and I lose a captain option
2. Check out Tom Green's first 4 matches. He could go top 8 mid this year and part of it will be due to that first month.
3. Touk at 545k is ridiculous value. He should still be cheapish after round 3 but that new price rise plus a trade isn't the best. Think he can re-enter the top 8 this year.
4. There's a good chance that Max will be at least a top 3 ruck. I could trade into him after his bye but that is at the cost of 5 shots at some big scores. Will he still be sub-600? Besides, my other options are an injured Darcy, an English I can't afford and Briggs, who also has a bye.
5. Reg could have 150k in him. 120k at least. He should be either a keeper or the easiest luxury trade ever.

In order to avoid their byes, I risk being able to cash in on the things that make them such viable starters. I think only Grundy is the one I don't 95% see myself finishing with and he's projecting as a very solid stepping stone.

I would prefer Gibcus to one of Coffield and Reid. Just don't know which one. None of the 3 inspire me and I want none of them on field. I think Coffield looks like being a real 250k guy by round 10. Totally meh, whereas Reid and Gibcus both look like having that spike game in them.

Sharp hasn't looked likely at all. Has sub risk written all over him, even if he does make the 23. Can see him getting subbed off 4 times in the first 6 weeks, only to pick up an injury and spend the next 13 weeks either in the medical room or the WAFL. Maybe he comes back in round 19 for a couple of decent scores nobody can use and ruins his 2025 starting price. Just a real bad feeling about this pick.

So those 2 rookie positions are problematic. Unless someone like a Loeman or Macrae comes out as viable, I can't afford to upgrade both of Sharp and Coffield/Reid. If I accept Coffield/Reid and forego Gibcus, then I can go Sharp > Lazzaro and I gotta say that Lazzaro looks ok. I tried getting the required 30k from elsewhere and the only slightly palatable one was Martin > Holmes but I don't trust that Scott will having Holmes off HB long enough to get his DPP. With Martin doing pretty much as he pleases over at the Dons, hopefully other Scott can resist needing to show everyone he knows more than the rest of us again by bunging him back on the wing. Maybe Martin > Fisher?

I count 10 keepers and 2 pretty decent non-mid breakout candidates in Martin and Rankine. I've got 4 MPs in that 200k - 300k range. I like that number because it leaves a decent pull of other MPs to pick from if my selections turn out wrong. The 300k-400k MPs like Powell, Wardlaw and Fisher can be targets for if Martin or Rankine don't work.
 
Joined
24 Mar 2015
Messages
4,154
Likes
14,751
AFL Club
North Melb.
Here goes, ~$20k odd in the bank.

Bont, English, Daicos are all in. Just gotta pick the guys with clear 120+ upside.

My mids have turned anaemic. Butters could be any of LDU, Rozee, Serong or Brayshaw really, I can't decide :unsure:

Watch on Touk in R0, but he's the one that looks like a realistic 110+ chance out of that group. There's fat to claim back in Berry down to a cheaper prospect to bump Touk up to one of that previous group if needed.

MPs are packed in forward of centre. I just can't pick Fyfe, have Billings instead for a free look. The last 3 forward rookie spots are a raffle... Lohman, H Thomas, Khamis, Biggie Nyuon could all have a go, we'll wait for team sheets.

Anything glaring?

Screenshot_20240307_111843_Brave.jpg
 
Joined
15 Feb 2021
Messages
1,307
Likes
5,403
AFL Club
Geelong
Im in too minds about it as well currently running with martin, but ive had all of them in and out of my team as well. Just trying to find players over 600k is a struggle as well with so much mid rotation. Nothing worse than forking out 600+ for a player who under performs. I think thats worse than picking a holmes at 440k who ave 95-100.
Agree, there is nothing worse than watching your 600 and whatever k guy getting the same score or even lower than some 475k midpricer week after week.
Those are the picks that kill you a little on the inside :cry:
 
Joined
2 Mar 2023
Messages
1,932
Likes
7,050
AFL Club
Essendon
In a moment of sheer madness, I've blown up my team... but I don't hate it.

View attachment 68887
Still not sold on Heeney after last night. Has a history of good scores in the first round, then not following up. I know we have 40 trades this season, but the return of Adams, Mills, and Parker will squeeze Heeney. Also, you will have 3 premiums missing in that bye round. Think the most you can have is 2.

Also, Sanders for me should replace Windsor. Lastly, think you can save some $$ in the forward line and downgrade Curnow to a Fyfe and use the $$ to upgrade a rookie in the Defense/Midfield where you're a bit lean.
 

Connoisseur

Leadership Group
Joined
3 Jul 2017
Messages
38,960
Likes
126,628
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Still not sold on Heeney after last night. Has a history of good scores in the first round, then not following up.
Best not to place too much emphasis on those scores if the situation, role, etc has greatly changed, as what weight do they now hold? People can come up with statistics to prove anything, forfty percent of all people know that.
 
Top