Strategy 2024: Round 5 Trades
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I think this is where I'm heading this week:
$319,600 ITB before any trades this week 33 trades (4 boosts)
Current team:
Sheezel, Young, Bramble, D'Ambrosio, Williams, Howes (Reid, Coffield)
Bontempelli, Serong, Steele, MCrouch, NDaicos, McKercher, Sanders, Sharp (Roberts, Carroll, Clark)
Marshall, Grundy (Livingstone)
Jackson, Heeney, Flanders, Powell, HReid, Dempsey (Darcy, Wilson)
Looking at
Grundy, Bramble, D'Ambrosio to Meek, Houston and NMartin leaving $28,100 ITB
Houston v Sinclair is the 50/50 choice, but Houston's bye in Round 13 seems to be better. Happy to ride Meek for a couple of weeks, the way Reeves was going when he was in, I think gives Meek a couple of weeks as long as he performs and he has a better scoring history than Reeves.
Howes is a week D6, but hopefully when Roberts and McKercher get DPP, they can hold down D6 for a while and need to fix Coffield at some stage, but will hold for now until options present.
Will only have 21 this week, but happy to go this way
$319,600 ITB before any trades this week 33 trades (4 boosts)
Current team:
Sheezel, Young, Bramble, D'Ambrosio, Williams, Howes (Reid, Coffield)
Bontempelli, Serong, Steele, MCrouch, NDaicos, McKercher, Sanders, Sharp (Roberts, Carroll, Clark)
Marshall, Grundy (Livingstone)
Jackson, Heeney, Flanders, Powell, HReid, Dempsey (Darcy, Wilson)
Looking at
Grundy, Bramble, D'Ambrosio to Meek, Houston and NMartin leaving $28,100 ITB
Houston v Sinclair is the 50/50 choice, but Houston's bye in Round 13 seems to be better. Happy to ride Meek for a couple of weeks, the way Reeves was going when he was in, I think gives Meek a couple of weeks as long as he performs and he has a better scoring history than Reeves.
Howes is a week D6, but hopefully when Roberts and McKercher get DPP, they can hold down D6 for a while and need to fix Coffield at some stage, but will hold for now until options present.
Will only have 21 this week, but happy to go this way
I'm going to do Grundy > Meek. Other ruck is Xerri, who's been a decent pick for his price.
I figure worst case with Meek is a few weeks at 85, which still makes 100-150k + 150 now.
Best case is he's a keeper until his bye at 100+ and makes even more.
What I read from Mitchell is that it's his position to lose.
Worth a try, as have been conservative with trades so far.
On a team morale level, getting the man bun out of the side has certainly lifted spirits, including mine. Gone at 95 or so since scoring started after sucking us in in round 0 with a big score.
I figure worst case with Meek is a few weeks at 85, which still makes 100-150k + 150 now.
Best case is he's a keeper until his bye at 100+ and makes even more.
What I read from Mitchell is that it's his position to lose.
Worth a try, as have been conservative with trades so far.
On a team morale level, getting the man bun out of the side has certainly lifted spirits, including mine. Gone at 95 or so since scoring started after sucking us in in round 0 with a big score.
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Yep, think I'm going to pull the trigger. Should have gone last week, but hindsight is 20/20.
Worst case scenario if i trade him. He starts doing well again and I've wasted a trade & 70k.
Worst case scenario if I keep him. He keeps averaging 95, loses more money and costs me a lot of rankings until he's upgraded in round 13 or even later and the game enjoyment diminishes.
Worst case scenario if i trade him. He starts doing well again and I've wasted a trade & 70k.
Worst case scenario if I keep him. He keeps averaging 95, loses more money and costs me a lot of rankings until he's upgraded in round 13 or even later and the game enjoyment diminishes.
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I wasn’t going to trade this week but with so many “possible” choices next week I thought I better get 1 maybe 2 in this week and then it somehow morphed into a “boost!” Oh well I’m not going to die wondering this season anyway! So I’ve gone with JJ>Comben Lazz>Clohesy and Kerch>Martin, my other option was to go Burgess>Meek giving me instant cash injection and coverage the next 2 and although tempting I’d rather use a boost on a (hopefully) premo, my other thought was Ramsden instead of Comben and Libba/Rowell instead of Martin, but looking at the likes of LDU/Oliver/Tracca and Dawson there’s value on the way so would rather start cherry picking these guys especially with the amount of dead rookies I have ATM.
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I've got a question which might inform the Grundy to Meek thinking:
Reason I ask is because he's averaging 103, but he had 139 in Rd 0 (when Gawn was ill) and then that 71 mare against Collingwood and with those outliers disregarded his average is almost identical at 102.
Six rucks are averaging 100+ so far (disregarding Jackson because he's available as a forward):
The problem is that Grundy's best score (139) and Gawn's worst (72) occurred in Rd 0 when Gawn was ill, which didn't count for SC points. So although Grundy has scored at that super premium level in a 2024 match for premiership points, nobody who owns him has got the benefit, whereas they all ate his 71. Meanwhile the same coaches love Gawn because he's averaged 145 for them.
I'm not suggesting Grundy will average 100+ (discounting the 139) for the year - I just don't know. But then I can't get a read on what Meek will do for the year either. However the thinking on Meek appears to be to:
Is Grundy a ruck keeper at $482k if he goes 102?
Reason I ask is because he's averaging 103, but he had 139 in Rd 0 (when Gawn was ill) and then that 71 mare against Collingwood and with those outliers disregarded his average is almost identical at 102.
Six rucks are averaging 100+ so far (disregarding Jackson because he's available as a forward):
- Gawn ($583.7k) 130.6, including a low of 72
- English ($715.1k) 124.5 (hasn't gone under 117)
- Marshall ($639.1k) 114.8, including a low of 79
- Nankervis ($583.1k) 109.8, including a low of 73
- Xerri ($407.4k) 105.0, including a low of 90
- Grundy ($481.7k) 103.2, including a low of 71
The problem is that Grundy's best score (139) and Gawn's worst (72) occurred in Rd 0 when Gawn was ill, which didn't count for SC points. So although Grundy has scored at that super premium level in a 2024 match for premiership points, nobody who owns him has got the benefit, whereas they all ate his 71. Meanwhile the same coaches love Gawn because he's averaged 145 for them.
I'm not suggesting Grundy will average 100+ (discounting the 139) for the year - I just don't know. But then I can't get a read on what Meek will do for the year either. However the thinking on Meek appears to be to:
- punt on him as a R2 keeper in lieu of Grundy for $150k less, foregoing English/Marshall; or
- ride him for $100k or so then pivot to a bottomed out English/Marshall (at the overall cost of 2 trades).
I think that the trade cost is the most pertinent of those points that you raised, I can't speak for anyone else but I have Grundy and really can't afford to downgrade at the cost of 2 trades. Coming out of round 7 I plan on having 3 rookies left on field to upgrade which should be done by round 12 at the cost of 7-8 trades. To get to that point I'll have used 23 trades (17 left) I'm also wanting to do 4-5 luxury upgrades over the main byes leaving about 8 trades. There's not much room left for me to use 2 trades now speculating, I can however see the merit in upgrading Grundy now as he would be one of the luxury upgrades I had planned on over the main byes. Of course if I did that now then that also slows my upgrading cadence.
I like the fact I can get a player in Meek that can match Grundy's scoring whilst unlocking 150K to use on upgrading the rest of my team. It's essentially a rookie downgrade trade.
Grundy's 93 against West Coast was the final nail in the coffin for me. If he can only manage a 93 against Bailey Williams, how is he going to go against Witts, Meek, Briggs and Sean Darcy post-bye?
Grundy's 93 against West Coast was the final nail in the coffin for me. If he can only manage a 93 against Bailey Williams, how is he going to go against Witts, Meek, Briggs and Sean Darcy post-bye?
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Yes it's hard to make a call on upgrading Grundy to another ruck without knowing peoples' exact situation (e.g. I think English/Marshall are still marginally overpriced and it's hard to get a read on Jackson), but I think it's a much better move than a downgrade. Effectively those downgrading are substituting a midpricer for a (underpriced) premium - generally not the percentage play.
Interesting reading the go early or not discussions on the likes of Clohesy , Comben , Graham & Ramsden
no mention of Andrew (101) $ 304, 800.00 as a possible option , Georgiades if he backs up the 99
Footywire has Sinclair at his lowest price for awhile after this round.
Dunkley will be under $ 600k although I guess now we wait for Petracca instead.
those without Daicos he (& Graham) will cost $ 683,800.00 which might not be that far off a D'Ambrosio & McKercher price combo
lots of options
no mention of Andrew (101) $ 304, 800.00 as a possible option , Georgiades if he backs up the 99
Footywire has Sinclair at his lowest price for awhile after this round.
Dunkley will be under $ 600k although I guess now we wait for Petracca instead.
those without Daicos he (& Graham) will cost $ 683,800.00 which might not be that far off a D'Ambrosio & McKercher price combo
lots of options
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The problem with freeing up the $150k for upgrades elsewhere is that by the time you can upgrade Meek to a genuine premium ruck (say Rd 10-11), that money is spent and you need to make further trades to find the cash. If you hold Grundy the illiquid $150k is held in equity ready to be used and those trades are saved (or the cash is used to upgrade a fattened Sharp/Williams/Dempsey/Reid).
Fair point, noting that last year Tim English could only manage an 88 against Marc Pittonet, a 90 against Ned Reeves and a 99 against Scott Lycett.
Fair point, noting that last year Tim English could only manage an 88 against Marc Pittonet, a 90 against Ned Reeves and a 99 against Scott Lycett.
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This is the optimal way to generate 150K in my team to get Tom Green right now though given all my other 300K+ cash cows still have money to make.
I'm not sure I share the same importance you are giving to trades either - they gave us 40 of them. You can use maximum trades with boosts every week and not run out until Round 17...
What should I be saving them for now exactly?
I'm not sure I share the same importance you are giving to trades either - they gave us 40 of them. You can use maximum trades with boosts every week and not run out until Round 17...
What should I be saving them for now exactly?
I guess we can only look at current scores and see how they back it up and explore all options.
Lot of love for a guy who has only tonned up once in 10 games (admittedly playing a different role) and cheaper at $ 227k
Andrew could be a possible option for D'Ambrosio if people have gone early on Clohesy & Graham and don't have the cash to get Daicos (if not owned) or Sinclair.
Lot of love for a guy who has only tonned up once in 10 games (admittedly playing a different role) and cheaper at $ 227k
Andrew could be a possible option for D'Ambrosio if people have gone early on Clohesy & Graham and don't have the cash to get Daicos (if not owned) or Sinclair.