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PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Miller BergmanJawTestCallum Coleman-JonesAchillesSeasonKallan DawsonAnkle2-3 weeksJosh GoaterAchillesSeasonCooper HarveySyndesmosis3 weeksGriffin LogueKnee7 weeksLiam ShielsCalfTestCam ZurhaarCalfTestUpdated: April 16, 2024
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The Kangas will lose Dawson for at least the next fortnight, after scans revealed ligament damage. Zurhaar will face a fitness test later this week to determine whether he'll return against the Hawks on Sunday. Bergman and Shiels could also play this weekend, while Colby McKercher (ribs) has been cleared. Riley Hardeman (concussion) made his return through the VFL last weekend. Logue is just under two months away from a long-awaited comeback. - Riley Beveridge

PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Travis BoakBackTestHugh JacksonHip8-10 weeksOllie LordKnee/tibia3-5 weeksTom McCallumAnkle2-3 weeksUpdated: April 16, 2024
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After Brandon Zerk-Thatcher escaped a shoulder injury in last Saturday night's win to be available this weekend, it just leaves Boak as a test after the veteran missed the victory over Fremantle. - Michael Whiting

PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Noah BaltaKnee3-4 weeksJacob BauerHamstring3-4 weeksJudson ClarkeACLSeasonMate ColinaBackTBC - long termLiam FawcettBackTBC - long termJosh GibcusACLSeasonDylan GrimesWristTestJacob HopperKneeTestTom LynchHamstring10-12 weeksDion PrestiaHamstring3 weeksJack RossFoot8 weeksJayden ShortCalfTBCTim TarantoWrist8 weeksJames TreziseAnkle3-4 weeksUpdated: April 16, 2024
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But wait, there's more. Richmond's injury list went hurtling past the point of no return late last week, with Ross, Taranto and Short suffering medium or long-term issues, and Clarke rupturing his ACL in the VFL while kicking a set shot goal. Grimes has been a test for several weeks now, but looks likely to return after this week's bye, as does Hopper. No timeline has yet been set for Short. – Sarah Black

PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Matt AllisonKnee2 weeksHunter ClarkCalf1-2 weeksLance CollardHamstringTestBrad CrouchKnee3-4 weeksPaddy DowKneeTestMax HeathConcussionTBCLiam HenryHamstring3-4 weeksMax KingKneeTestBen PatonPectoral1-2 weeksMason WoodCollarbone2 weeksJames Van EsAnkleTestJimmy WebsterSuspensionRound 8Updated: April 16, 2024
Early prognosis
King
is facing an uphill battle to be fit to face the Western Bulldogs given the tight turnaround, after being cleared of structural damage to his knee. Dow is set to be available for selection at either level this week after overcoming a pre-season knee injury. Collard will also need to prove his fitness after injuring his hamstring in the VFL. - Josh Gabelich

PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Harry ArnoldBack8 weeksCallum MillsShoulder8 weeksLuke ParkerArm1 weekDane RampeHamstring1-2 weeksSam ReidQuadTBCAngus SheldrickFingerTestUpdated: April 16, 2024
Early prognosis
Parker
is not yet back to full fitness after breaking his arm in the pre-season and will not take part in contact drills for at least another week. Injury-prone tall Reid has suffered another setback, this time a low-grade quad strain, putting a stop to his immediate plans of a senior return. Rampe will miss again as he recovers from a hamstring issue, while young midfielder Sheldrick is a test to return after a broken finger. There's still no exact timeframe for Mills, with the club saying only he'll be back mid-season. - Martin Smith

PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Oscar AllenKnee6-8 weeksRhett BazzoGroin5-6 weeksLuke EdwardsConcussion1-2 weeksMatt FlynnKnee4-5 weeksElijah HewettFootPost-byeCallum JamiesonHamstringTBCUpdated: April 16, 2024
Early prognosis
The Eagles are still determining how long Jamieson will be sidelined after he was withdrawn late in round six because of hamstring soreness. He has undergone subsequent scans but his availability this week is unclear. Edwards suffered concussion against Richmond and will enter protocols on the back of also suffering a minor hamstring issue. Coby Burgiel and Archer Reid come off the injury list and will line up in the WAFL on Saturday. – Nathan Schmook

PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Nick CoffieldShoulder8-10 weeksTom LiberatoreConcussion1 weekRory LobbAnkleTestAiden O'DriscollConcussionIndefiniteAnthony ScottAnkleTestBailey SmithKneeSeasonLachie SmithKnee1-2 weeksUpdated: April 16, 2024
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Liberatore
won't face St Kilda on Thursday night after entering the AFL's concussion protocols across the weekend following a scary incident last Friday night. The midfielder has been medically cleared to return once he passes concussion protocols. Lobb and Scott both suffered ankle sprains in the VFL and will need to prove their fitness later in the week. - Josh Gabelich
 

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What's the deal with young?
Hopefully not too bad, he'll be my 5th injury trade this season if it's LT.
Hopefully you’ve seen elsewhere by now - I believe it was hamstring tightness, and Longmuir said it was taking a cautious approach (or similar) because the game was over.
 
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What if English goes west on a 8-10 year deal? With known issues and then gets medically retired with ~7 years left on his contract?
Who should pay for that? The league or the club who takes the risk? Not a risk if the club gets bailed out from the league paying his salary and not having an impact on their salary cap.
Hope they come to a reasonable outcome so no club say, it doesn’t matter because the league will bail us out and pay the salary anyway!
The health of the player of course is the important outcome, just no other club should be disadvantaged.
 
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What if English goes west on a 8-10 year deal? With known issues and then gets medically retired with ~7 years left on his contract?
Who should pay for that? The league or the club who takes the risk? Not a risk if the club gets bailed out from the league paying his salary and not having an impact on their salary cap.
Hope they come to a reasonable outcome so no club say, it doesn’t matter because the league will bail us out and pay the salary anyway!
The health of the player of course is the important outcome, just no other club should be disadvantaged.
Won't that approach create the opposite problem where anyone with concussion history is discriminated against because of the risk? The can only get 1-2 year deals in case they have to retire and clubs have to absorb a huge hit of dead money in the salary cap?
 
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Won't that approach create the opposite problem where anyone with concussion history is discriminated against because of the risk? The can only get 1-2 year deals in case they have to retire and clubs have to absorb a huge hit of dead money in the salary cap?
Could be a 2-3 year deal with a retainer of 10% or $100k for every year of a potential 10 year deal if the player cannot see out a 10 year contract. Player makes thru to the 3rd year triggers a clause to get another 2-3 year deal.
I’m no contracts lawyer but I’m sure these things can happen. players get bonuses for B&F, Brownlow finishes. Play a certain amount of games in the seniors triggers a clause, I don’t think it’s that hard to implement?
 
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Could be a 2-3 year deal with a retainer of 10% or $100k for every year of a potential 10 year deal if the player cannot see out a 10 year contract. Player makes thru to the 3rd year triggers a clause to get another 2-3 year deal.
I’m no contracts lawyer but I’m sure these things can happen. players get bonuses for B&F, Brownlow finishes. Play a certain amount of games in the seniors triggers a clause, I don’t think it’s that hard to implement?
Feels a bit iffy to me that a player risks so much if concussion rules them out of the game. Imagine you get a concussion and then have to live with that much uncertainty because the club doesn't want to risk having to pay it out even though it is the club sending an employee out into a dangerous environment that has a high risk of concussion. If anything the club should have to pay players more after each subsequent concussion to o***et the increased personal risk the player is undertaking!
 
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Feels a bit iffy to me that a player risks so much if concussion rules them out of the game. Imagine you get a concussion and then have to live with that much uncertainty because the club doesn't want to risk having to pay it out even though it is the club sending an employee out into a dangerous environment that has a high risk of concussion. If anything the club should have to pay players more after each subsequent concussion to o***et the increased personal risk the player is undertaking!
Yeah sure, what I'm not advocating for is open slaver for clubs to sign players up for 10 years then to be bailed out by the league because they have that in their back pocket, their get out of jail free card if you like. But I'm also not saying the club should pay the total contract, thus the 10-20% 100 or 200k. I'm not across what TPP's are these days so whatever is a fair and reasonable % be paid by the clubs, coming off their respective TPP over the course of how many years. The remainder to be paid by the AFL league.
Of course this is based on English, who has a known issue. If a player has no known concussion issues then that is the exception? The remainder of that season paid by club then any outstanding years on contract paid for by league. Or again a % paid by the club that comes off the TPP and the rest from the AFL.
And I'm not sure they'll go down the Paddy McCartin road again but if they are paid out of concussion reasons or retired because of concussion, that should be their passport stamped, not to play again? But we are wised for that experience I guess.
Your bolded line makes more sense as well, I wonder where workcover comes into play here? Does workcover even apply to the AFL? if it does, their premiums must be huge, and which case the player/AFL is insured for these events?
 
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Yeah sure, what I'm not advocating for is open slaver for clubs to sign players up for 10 years then to be bailed out by the league because they have that in their back pocket, their get out of jail free card if you like. But I'm also not saying the club should pay the total contract, thus the 10-20% 100 or 200k. I'm not across what TPP's are these days so whatever is a fair and reasonable % be paid by the clubs, coming off their respective TPP over the course of how many years. The remainder to be paid by the AFL league.
Of course this is based on English, who has a known issue. If a player has no known concussion issues then that is the exception? The remainder of that season paid by club then any outstanding years on contract paid for by league. Or again a % paid by the club that comes off the TPP and the rest from the AFL.
And I'm not sure they'll go down the Paddy McCartin road again but if they are paid out of concussion reasons or retired because of concussion, that should be their passport stamped, not to play again? But we are wised for that experience I guess.
Your bolded line makes more sense as well, I wonder where workcover comes into play here? Does workcover even apply to the AFL? if it does, their premiums must be huge, and which case the player/AFL is insured for these events?
Yeah I won't deny it's a complex issue - you could even argue that why restrict this to just concussion (even though that is the main reason players would retire). But don't want to derail the thread by going off on another tangent here!
 
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