Discussion 2024 Round 8: Teams & In Game Discussion
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I don't mind Rozee as a never again nomination while he is a midfielder actually.
Putting last night's carnage aside, he just seems a bit too, I dunno... outside? His versatility almost works against him in some ways with Ken able to throw him in a variety of roles...
Butters is the man if you want a Port mid.
Putting last night's carnage aside, he just seems a bit too, I dunno... outside? His versatility almost works against him in some ways with Ken able to throw him in a variety of roles...
Butters is the man if you want a Port mid.
I agree with this. Never really saw Rozee as that guy who could reliably punch out 110+ scores given the way he is used. Butters is definitely that guy you’d rely on for the consistency and higher ceiling.
If Rozee was a forward, I would have definitely thought of paying up for him at some point (even with the odd failure), but as a mid only I wasn’t interested in him over some of our other options. I’m sure he’ll be a very good player, but just not that quite at that upper echelon (yet) of mid scoring that we want.
If Rozee was a forward, I would have definitely thought of paying up for him at some point (even with the odd failure), but as a mid only I wasn’t interested in him over some of our other options. I’m sure he’ll be a very good player, but just not that quite at that upper echelon (yet) of mid scoring that we want.
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Agree on the Butters part and didn’t give Rozee that much consideration in the preseason given those reasons you mentioned and that I felt he didn’t have a high enough ceiling to warrant the investment compared to other options, along with the ability to be able to selected cheaper later down the track.
My gripe is with the never again phrasing given I think the concept is utterly nonsensical and has lost all meaning (not that it had any to begin with) due to the overuse. Apply it to a real life scenario (food, investments, etc), will you never do one thing again because of one bad experience and if so, doesn’t this speak volumes about the risk profile?
If he starts sub $500,000 next season or at any stage during the remainder of his career, will those that classified him “never again“ go back to the well? If he goes on a hot streak, can they resist FOMO?
Did those that pick Luke Ryan post bye in 2021 and then exclaim “never again”, select him to start in 2024 or are they so emotional about one bad experience, that they missed out? On the other hand, coaches will select him at $600,000+ and set unrealistic expectations that he will magically sustain a 120+ for the remainder of the season and when he registers an average <105 from time of ownership, will they place him on the “never again list“ rather than admitting they made a poor decision?
My gripe is with the never again phrasing given I think the concept is utterly nonsensical and has lost all meaning (not that it had any to begin with) due to the overuse. Apply it to a real life scenario (food, investments, etc), will you never do one thing again because of one bad experience and if so, doesn’t this speak volumes about the risk profile?
If he starts sub $500,000 next season or at any stage during the remainder of his career, will those that classified him “never again“ go back to the well? If he goes on a hot streak, can they resist FOMO?
Did those that pick Luke Ryan post bye in 2021 and then exclaim “never again”, select him to start in 2024 or are they so emotional about one bad experience, that they missed out? On the other hand, coaches will select him at $600,000+ and set unrealistic expectations that he will magically sustain a 120+ for the remainder of the season and when he registers an average <105 from time of ownership, will they place him on the “never again list“ rather than admitting they made a poor decision?
Thanks @Connoisseur very enlightening.. can’t imagine any collusion is possible.
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There'd be no kind of cheating going on, but with a scoring system that relies on subjective human judgement for allocation of points, there's bound to be, shall we say, favourable points allocated to favourite players that don't always make sense to SCes in the context of the match. The key as coaches is to make sure those players are in your team.
Take this example. They show a CD caller, calling two goals. See if you can notice which player got more excitement when they scored.
View: https://youtu.be/ZURJqa2WNdM?si=tlqi6xuHRlfUzPMf
Take this example. They show a CD caller, calling two goals. See if you can notice which player got more excitement when they scored.
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With the dust settling from last night, what are fellow Rozee owners planning on doing with him next week?
I’m thinking I may use it as a bit of an opportunity for a structural fix. Even before the hammy x 2, he seemed a rung below the gun mids. I’m contemplating trading him for a keeper forward who is actually cheaper. This would allow H Reid to F6 and therefore turning it into a bit of a win by fielding more reliable rookies in other positions.
I’m thinking I may use it as a bit of an opportunity for a structural fix. Even before the hammy x 2, he seemed a rung below the gun mids. I’m contemplating trading him for a keeper forward who is actually cheaper. This would allow H Reid to F6 and therefore turning it into a bit of a win by fielding more reliable rookies in other positions.
I think a lot of the rants are people not understanding the scoring system. Yes there is probably a little bit of subjectivity, but so often a "long kick" that didn't get points wasn't actually 40m, or tackles aren't actually tackles. A short kick is "effective" but actually only went 20m to a contest. A shot at goal that is a point.. etc.
The reality is, Champion Data don't care at all about SC, and aren't going to manipulate how their rankings present to protect or punish certain players. What is more likely.. observers not understanding the propriety ranking system and using personal bias over their own players, or Champion Data employees risking their job to get revenge by underscoring a player when there is nothing that suggests it actually impacts that player at all...
The reality is, Champion Data don't care at all about SC, and aren't going to manipulate how their rankings present to protect or punish certain players. What is more likely.. observers not understanding the propriety ranking system and using personal bias over their own players, or Champion Data employees risking their job to get revenge by underscoring a player when there is nothing that suggests it actually impacts that player at all...
poor Kenny
Can't win no matter what he does.
From what I have read , scans came back all clear.
Rozee had a fitness test at training Tuesday , then himself said he had to tick things off again on Wednesday (which he must have) , then had a final fitness test before the game last night.
I guess if the medical staff cleared him and then based on what Hinkley said he observed , noting the concern about what would happen when "game fatigue" kicked in.
I guess as captain he was always going to play the Showdown if he felt he was right.
How much Game Day coaching is Hinkley even doing these days or is Carr running the show from the Box ? , be curious to know.
If my memory serves me right Choco was actually Game Day coach at the Giants under Sheedy.
Have a feeling Bolton was actually Game Day coach somewhere as well.
Maybe the Hinkley - > Carr succession plan is already in place.
I guess at the end of the day Hinkley is still the senior coach so hats off for "owning" the decision to play Rozee in the first place.
Can't win no matter what he does.
From what I have read , scans came back all clear.
Rozee had a fitness test at training Tuesday , then himself said he had to tick things off again on Wednesday (which he must have) , then had a final fitness test before the game last night.
I guess if the medical staff cleared him and then based on what Hinkley said he observed , noting the concern about what would happen when "game fatigue" kicked in.
I guess as captain he was always going to play the Showdown if he felt he was right.
How much Game Day coaching is Hinkley even doing these days or is Carr running the show from the Box ? , be curious to know.
If my memory serves me right Choco was actually Game Day coach at the Giants under Sheedy.
Have a feeling Bolton was actually Game Day coach somewhere as well.
Maybe the Hinkley - > Carr succession plan is already in place.
I guess at the end of the day Hinkley is still the senior coach so hats off for "owning" the decision to play Rozee in the first place.
