Discussion 2024 Round 19: Teams & In Game Discussion

[Rickwood]

2478 all out (Jackson).

Left 40 odd points on the table by being out all weekend (hello Serong) , but happy with the last 3 weeks

 

[Rickwood]

best mid/def to bring in for 586500? could move naicos to mid

3k off gulden, thinking ridley whitfield ed richards or stewart?

not the biggest fan of rozee's draw

Edit - been a long weekend and I should read better.....
Martin, Young, Holmes (not preferred)

second edit - I am tired - back to Treloar

 

[Blue Bloods]

Having a horror couple of weeks, down from 74 rank to 265, lost 165 spots just this week.

Knew it was going to be bad and wasn’t going to check my team but thought I post when doing well so have to post when doing poor.

 

[Bombers2win]

I called my team a disaster with the Sunday morning update, well they showed me that was just the tip of the iceberg! 2241 all out, anything that could’ve gone wrong did, 2 trades left a few injuries and unexpected subs to now deal with, it’s looking like I’m mirroring my beloved Bombers and bowing out when it matters.

 

[freowho]

With 40 trades this year, I'd say, when someone you think is going ok, or is going ok, then goes bad and starts scoring like crap, get rid of them....no need to hang on to hope of them finding it is whatever they lost, just get rid of em, and move on to someone else.
Just gotta be decisive and pull the trigger.

Trading Rowell was a tough call. No change in role or injury that we know of. Premiums can drop some bad scores and then return to good scoring like Sheezel did. Once the price drops there is no value in the trade. Best you can hope for is push him to M9.
There has to be something going on we're not being told about.

 

[frostylane]

Well done to those that got high scores, what a shocker for me, Nank C, Fisher 38, Dunkley 69 - 2,221 went down 1,850 spots overall now 6,491.

 

[Bermi]

2,312 Butters Capt.

Weeks ago, I said that my strategy will be to save my last 2 trades for the finals, surely Rowell will score reasonably for the rest of the season, hmmm, but the last 6 rounds his highest score was 82. Wow, that turned out to be a bad decision, that is contributing to ruining my SC season.

I was tossing up Salem 55 with Dowling 83 to start and I chose Salem. H Garcia coming back into ST. Kilda's team ruined any looping I could do.

 

[warewolves]

Just 2282 for me with Zorko as Captn
Jezza 💩💩 - glad to see he didn’t fire against my Doggies, but gee 33 from a Cats home game was a millstone for my scoring.
Also not helped by Dawson, Rozee, Caldwell not seeing out their games.
Slipped back to the 30,000s

 

[frosty1]

2319 currently 0.5/4 leagues with 1 draw. Waiting for scaling to make it 0/4.

Confirmed. I got 1 point from scaling,, opponent 5.

 

[Juzzo]

Trading Rowell was a tough call. No change in role or injury that we know of. Premiums can drop some bad scores and then return to good scoring like Sheezel did. Once the price drops there is no value in the trade. Best you can hope for is push him to M9.
There has to be something going on we're not being told about.

I think I know what is wrong with Rowell...





HE IS A SPUD!

 

[FirstTimer]

Final Quarter Scores ( Fully Scaled )
Round 19 2024

 

[FirstTimer]

2373 this round with Cameron , Fisher Heeney , Walsh and Oliver all under par and i believe Rozee didn't finish the game , was projected 2576 so goes to show

 

[Connoisseur]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815213376160862334

 

[Professor]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815307975118258306

View: https://twitter.com/superfooty/status/1815307975118258306

 

[MagpiePotato]

Did you do the maths before you brought him in? After his first 7 games he had scored 917 SC points. Even if he were to ave 115 for the season that would have seen him ave 108 for the remaining 16 games. But I read your expectations were 115 ave for the remainder of the season. That puts him scoring a season total of 2757 at a season ave of 119. In 2023 only Bont, English and Oliver scored more than 119 ave. I am not sure why you would have not considered how a guy who has never ave more that 102 was suddenly in that kind of class. Or at least considered that maybe there was considerable downside risk to the idea of him ave 119 for the year. Totally agree his recent form is horrid. Even if he were to hit his 2023 ave of 102, his ave post rd 7 should be 89 while he currently sits at 83.

Numbers can be deceptive but to quote the X Files "the truth is out there".

I mean, the whole points of SC is trying to predict bring in the guys who break-out go elite, Jack steeles averages went 64,63,91,94,95,122... if you don't grab steele that year using the same logic you used here, you've tanked your season. I guess you sin some you lose some. my real beef with rowell is that he didn;t just stink it up with a 100 point average over the last 7 weeks (100 average is pretty stinky for a premo-mid) but he's gone 70, that is almost inconceivable.

 

[Connoisseur]

I mean, the whole points of SC is trying to predict bring in the guys who break-out go elite.

And the key is not paying at the “elite prices“ and getting those that break-out on the cheap and before everyone cottons on.

 

[Professor]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815303278164660616

View: https://twitter.com/Supercoach/status/1815303278164660616

 

[Manikato1]

I mean, the whole points of SC is trying to predict bring in the guys who break-out go elite, Jack steeles averages went 64,63,91,94,95,122... if you don't grab steele that year using the same logic you used here, you've tanked your season. I guess you sin some you lose some. my real beef with rowell is that he didn;t just stink it up with a 100 point average over the last 7 weeks (100 average is pretty stinky for a premo-mid) but he's gone 70, that is almost inconceivable.

And the key is not paying at the “elite prices“ and getting those that break-out on the cheap and before everyone cottons on.

I totally agree his fall from grace unfortunately has been spectacular. I am sure everyone has been caught in one of these situations at some point. Picking break out players however usually requires you to take a risk and go early (as Connoisseur observed). Steele actually went 91, 94, 95, 114 and then 126. The 95 was in 2019 when he started well, dipped and then finished well. His issue was he was often used at that time as a run with player. His targets including Bont and Fyfe among others. However there was talk of him as a breakout player for 2020 as the 2019 season ended. It depended on his role. So he had lots of interest at the start of 2020 and people that took the risk of starting him were rewarded.

Take Flanders this year. Nobody would have expected him to roll out a ton every game. But after a dodgy start to 2023 his last 10 games produced an ave of 106. So in a 2024 Fwd line devoid of solid SC options and a start price of $494 he represented a risk but also potential upside. And those that thought the risk at the start was too much soon got on before his price increased too much. If you got on late you still did okay this time round but usually you don’t.

As a Pies supporter you may well remember the 2013 (showing my age there) season when Travis Cloke started 92, 79, 133, 195, 63, 124 for an ave of 114 as a pure Fwd. Everyone busted a gut to get him in their team Rds 5 and 6 only to see it fall apart with his price dropping from a high of 575k to 446k just 5 rounds later.

Put it another way. Would you be as disappointed if you had started Rowell. Probably you would have been much more inclined to jump off once the wheels started to fall off. Take the risk, ride them hard and then take the money and run knowing you got the good end of the deal when it goes bust.

Someone once mentioned on this site that the trick is not what players you start with, or finish with, but when you have them that makes the difference.

 

[freowho]

I mean, the whole points of SC is trying to predict bring in the guys who break-out go elite, Jack steeles averages went 64,63,91,94,95,122... if you don't grab steele that year using the same logic you used here, you've tanked your season. I guess you sin some you lose some. my real beef with rowell is that he didn;t just stink it up with a 100 point average over the last 7 weeks (100 average is pretty stinky for a premo-mid) but he's gone 70, that is almost inconceivable.

 

[blue dreamer]

Was Fisher injured or just subbed? The AFL app said injured, but fanfooty does not mention an injury.

was at the ground on level 1 near the NM rooms.

After the game noticed him with one boot off and limping off the stadium.

Don't think it's anything new think he's just trying to manage it to the end of the season, might be a big enough reason to move him on if you can get anything for him and have the trades available, I know I am considering this.

This is just my opinion from what I saw.