Discussion BBL|14 Teams & In Game Discussion: SATURDAY DOUBLE HEADER 11th JAN 3:45pm AEST [SY6 v PER] & 7:00pm AEST [ADE v BRI]

[Pacifico]

What’s the consensus on Short? I get its team dependant and all that. But still torn on whether to get him or spread the cash

Depends on your own team and how much bank you've got set aside,

I'll assess deeper after seeing how the gades go tonight, As that will impact that quality that i may potentially bring in with him. But given allens injury looking more likely than not to add short to my squad. 5 games in 3 rounds is hard to bet against and i've got ~140k in the bank to facilitate some flexibility.

If i bring him in, don't really care what his price does, as i'll hold him for the season.

 

[Chrispy Critters]

Everyone will setup differently.

Once Maxwell was out people would have adjusted.

Plenty of starting value and cheapies playing.

Those that took Connolly and Richardson E scores by $ 39,5 k players may have banked enough money.

Webster (or Sutherland) with Bank to Short will be relatively easy to achieve for some.

Depends who else they started and targeting for Round 2 eg Behrendorff and Overton.

To me Short comes down to if people think he can maintain his batting from the past 2 seasons , any bowling points are a bonus.

People may want him only for DGR 2 & 4 in any case.

Just needed to know whether to start him or wait until Round 2 to bring him in or wait until Round 4.

And work out how and then adjust if need be.

I love that everyone plays differently.
those that went $39k loops probably already have short, those who faded will be going a balanced approach and will need to trade out two medium players for short and basement price player.
It’s worth noting that while Short will drop $20k, many of the playing cheapies (ie Konstas) will rise by the same amount. Not much gain, which is why I’m not expecting him to be as highly traded this week

 

[Amazing Bombers]

Totally agree. It is why I think those without Short are unlikely to buy him for round 2 either.

Think like a few others have said it depends, people will go both ways, I started without Short and left some cash in bank planning on getting him in and more than likely am sticking to that.
I guess a thing to consider is that Short is one of the best vc options still, I'm not sure about scorchers captain options particularly with the whispers around Richo maybe being rested at times this season.
https://honeyball.com.au/2024/12/18...-scorchers-hopeful-on-inglis/#google_vignette

 

[Chumpion]

I'd feel a lot more comfortable taking on Short if they played after the Scorchers' first game and I'd had a chance to look at game 1 of their VC score.
The other factor is that Short couldn't have played much worse of a game (late charity wicket aside) and still found his way to a score. If he gets it together it could be a disaster!

 

[Shannon]

Maxwell & Duckett playing Friday v Strikers :-

BBL late mail: Latest team news for round 2 as Stars prepare to welcome back Glenn Maxwell

The winless Melbourne Stars will be bolstered by the inclusion of their two best bats, with Glenn Maxwell and Ben Duckett locked in to face Adelaide Strikers on Friday.

The 0-2 Stars will regain Maxwell from a hamstring injury and get a first look at their prized English import with Duckett due to fly from New Zealand to Adelaide on Thursday to meet his teammates.

The left-hander, who scored three half-centuries in his 12 games for Brisbane Heat in 2021-22, missed the first two games as he finished his Test duties with England against the Kiwis.

The Stars took the 30-year-old with the first pick in this year’s overseas player draft.

Duckett will take the place of countryman Joe Clarke, who injured his hamstring in Wednesday night’s loss to the Heat but was due to depart anyway after signing as a replacement player for the first two games.

The Stars took the 30-year-old with the first pick in this year’s overseas player draft

Duckett will take the place of countryman Joe Clarke, who injured his hamstring in Wednesday night’s loss to the Heat but was due to depart anyway after signing as a replacement player for the first two games.

Maxwell, who has been cleared to return from the hamstring strain he suffered while fielding in Australia’s final T20 against Pakistan, was poised to replace Campbell Kellaway, who was listed to bat at nine and bowled one over for 11 runs in the eight-wicket loss to the Heat.

It could cause a reshuffle of the Stars’ order with Tom Rogers (14 and 1) likely to slide down from an opening spot, where new captain Marcus Stoinis could return alongside Duckett.

Stars coach Peter Moores said he was pleased with the show of greater “intent” with the bat than in the tournament opener against the Scorchers, but wanted to see more consistency from his side.

“We’ve got to move our game on by the time we get to Adelaide,” he said
.
“We get Ben Duckett coming over from England, so the side freshens up a little bit anyway.


Interesting that Stoinis may move up to opening.

 

[Herbie66]

I love that everyone plays differently.
those that went $39k loops probably already have short, those who faded will be going a balanced approach and will need to trade out two medium players for short and basement price player.
It’s worth noting that while Short will drop $20k, many of the playing cheapies (ie Konstas) will rise by the same amount. Not much gain, which is why I’m not expecting him to be as highly traded this week

Exactly

It's about to become a trading game depending on how much 💰 people have and who they are planning to trade in (and out) and who they can hold each round to make it happen.

People will have ideas , many will plan , many will wing it and some may even be completely lost and give up.

And then CA will continue to throw curve balls at us

Let the fun begin

 

[Dravid]

Interesting that Stoinis may move up to opening.

Seems strange to me... If Stoinis was going to open, why wouldn't he have opened in the first two games?

 

[Dravid]

Hard to say but I'm not entirely sure a slightly "tender" 36 year old Maxwell is worth the 247K risk, will he bowl? Hopefully tomorrow night might help answer some questions on the star Star.

Hard to tell with the Stars... their numbers 9 and 11 bowled 2 overs between them yesterday!

Is round 1 Matt Short the round 1 Max Gawn of cricket, we shall see?

It's an interesting question but I would imagine most people have already made up their minds with Matt Short and will probably stick with their guns now short of dismantling their teams and plans.

Richo and Connolly scoring well in the first game allowed me to not buy Short, but give me enough money to buy him without too many dramas in round 2 if I want to go down that path. I'm sure there are plenty of others like me.

The attraction of Short is that he can go big and if he's your C, then you'll get a march on the field.

 

[Chumpion]

For those contemplating Short, what would you need as a minimum from him in game 1 to lock in his VC score? It seems like VC upside is a huge selling point I'm curious to see what the over/under is for whether you back him in for game 2 or take a Scorcher C instead.

 

[Under The Dome]

For those contemplating Short, what would you need as a minimum from him in game 1 to lock in his VC score? It seems like VC upside is a huge selling point I'm curious to see what the over/under is for whether you back him in for game 2 or take a Scorcher C instead.

Do Perth have the option there for the (C)? Inglis, Hardie and bowler rotation could be one gamers.

 

[Tamuhawk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869609223124140444

View: https://twitter.com/StarsBBL/status/1869609223124140444

 

[Shannon]

Do Perth have the option there for the (C)? Inglis, Hardie and bowler rotation could be one gamers.

Connolly might be the best C option from the scorchers - batting at 3 & bowling

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Merlo and one of Siddle/Couch to miss you would think.

 

[Under The Dome]

Connolly might be the best C option from the scorchers - batting at 3 & bowling

Juicy role if it sticks for both

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Jack Edwards stocks through the roof.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869609596077432893

View: https://twitter.com/SixersBBL/status/1869609596077432893

 

[T43597]

For those contemplating Short, what would you need as a minimum from him in game 1 to lock in his VC score? It seems like VC upside is a huge selling point I'm curious to see what the over/under is for whether you back him in for game 2 or take a Scorcher C instead.

Tough one. For me the answer partly revolves around how many overs he bowls. If he is bowling 3 overs and looks like keeping that 3rd spinner role then id probably be happy to back him in for the 2nd game meaning id likely take a lower VC score than i would if he barely bowls.

So if he bowls 3 overs, id take maybe 40+. If he doesnt look like he is bowling himself much in that first game, he becomes more risky for the 2nd game so id need him to score 60+ i reckon. What im saying makes sense to me but its also not lost on me that it is counterintuitive... because if he is bowling say 3 overs in the first game and only scores <40 then you could say it doesnt bode well for his 2nd game. Whereas, if he is batting well but barely bowling, and he scores 40+ then you could claim that bodes well for the 2nd game because he is in batting form.

Hope that makes sense. If i had to give a single number, it would be 50. I would hope that, no matter what he scores in the first game, that he is bowling 2-3 overs. If not, its much harder to justify taking his score.

 

[The Myth]

Jack Edwards stocks through the roof.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869609596077432893

View: https://twitter.com/SixersBBL/status/1869609596077432893

Given the injury to Kerr as well, I wonder if we see Patterson come in at the top of the order with Edwards staying at 6.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Given the injury to Kerr as well, I wonder if we see Patterson come in at the top of the order with Edwards staying at 6.

Apparently just cramp for Kerr.

Patterson might come in but I recall seeing comments coming out of the Sixers that they liked Edwards at 3.

Could still be;

Vince
Phillippe
Edwards
Henriques
Silk
Davies
5 bowlers

 

[Herbie66]

See what happens to this one , contains Inglis news

https://www.crictracker.com/cricket...ter-maxwell-and-english-players-set-to-debut/

 

[Ben's Beasts]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1869617428612751622

View: https://twitter.com/StrikersBBL/status/1869617428612751622