Discussion BBL|14 Teams & In Game Discussion - Congrats Miller is a Steele (2nd), Beast Mode (4th) & All is Wells (5th)

[mike89]

Sellout is just general admission.

Yeah we had a couple of "sellouts" at the Gabba this year that only just hit 30k, pretty sure capacity is closer to 35-36 even allowing for the sightscreen areas.

 

[Diabolical]

Was floating an idea with a group chat for ER, that increased incrementally with each over bowled:

Under 4 an over -
1 over: 5 points
2 overs: 10 points
3 overs: 15 points
4 overs: 25 points (bonus 5 due to bowling full quota.

4.01-5 -
1 over: 4 points
2 overs: 8 points
3 overs: 12 points
4 overs: 16 points (bonus 4)

You get the idea.

I like it. I think the batting bonus points also need to be looked at for the same reason. The system they first had for BBL SC worked well - if a batter scores at more than a run a ball he gets his score plus the difference between score and balls faced.

 

[Dravid]

So we're looking at something like a 10 over game assuming the rain doesn't return?

 

[Dravid]

I like it. I think the batting bonus points also need to be looked at for the same reason. The system they first had for BBL SC worked well - if a batter scores at more than a run a ball he gets his score plus the difference between score and balls faced.

From memory you also got bonuses for 4s and 6s hit

 

[Dravid]

Covers going back on

 

[Under The Dome]

Edwards would be bowled out now.

 

[mike89]

Think we're stuffed now. Only 45 minutes left

 

[Plan B]

Yeah I'd want to see the strike rate bonus change as well, if they were going to go down that path.

Seems odd to me that getting a 100 gives u same bonus points as a run out

 

[7/11]

I like it. I think the batting bonus points also need to be looked at for the same reason. The system they first had for BBL SC worked well - if a batter scores at more than a run a ball he gets his score plus the difference between score and balls faced.

From memory you also got bonuses for 4s and 6s hit

I have always preferred the runs exceeding balls points system. Just feels more rewarding of a quick fire knock than the 20 minimum before SR points. Would reward bowlers yes, but batsmen playing a brilliant knock would see more benefit for a 50 off 18 (worth 85 currently). Would increase the bonus points for 50 and 100 to make them 15 and 30 apiece. If a bowler manages to get a 50, you deserve every point.

I think we could do without the boundary points though, think that was the reason they removed it in the first place as you’d be getting 8 points per 4 or 13 points per 6 if you were already ahead of the balls.

 

[Beg2Differ]

Was floating an idea with a group chat for ER, that increased incrementally with each over bowled:

Under 4 an over -
1 over: 5 points
2 overs: 10 points
3 overs: 15 points
4 overs: 25 points (bonus 5 due to bowling full quota.

4.01-5 -
1 over: 4 points
2 overs: 8 points
3 overs: 12 points
4 overs: 16 points (bonus 4)

You get the idea.

Yeah I like it. I’ve thought before about an over based ER that isn’t reliant on overall ER to score well.. bit different to your proposal but I think something like either could work. Although would definitely skew things even more towards bowlers!

Yeah I'd want to see the strike rate bonus change as well, if they were going to go down that path.

Strike Rate bonus

• 1 point SR bonus for each run scored in excess of balls faced, no min runs required (old SC method)
  • ie runs scored x 2 less balls faced

Economy Rate bonus

• 1 point ER bonus for each full run conceded less that 10 runs per over, no min over required
  • ie balls bowled / 6 x 10 less runs conceded

Not sure that 10 runs per over is the right figure for ER bonus however under the above method a batsman starts getting a bonus once he starts going at better at 6 per over (ie 1 run per ball) and given I see a par score for a T20 in Australia at 160 (8 per over) it seems logical to me to start awarding ER bonus once a bowler starts conceding less than 10 per over. More SR bonus available the more a batsman bats and the higher score he gets. More ER bonus available the more a bowler bowls and the more economical he is.

 

[Diabolical]

Strike Rate bonus

• 1 point SR bonus for each run scored in excess of balls faced, no min runs required (old SC method)
  • ie runs scored x 2 less balls faced

Economy Rate bonus

• 1 point ER bonus for each full run conceded less that 10 runs per over, no min over required
  • ie balls bowled / 6 x 10 less runs conceded

Not sure that 10 runs per over is the right figure for ER bonus however under the above method a batsman starts getting a bonus once he starts going at better at 6 per over (ie 1 run per ball) and given I see a par score for a T20 in Australia at 160 (8 per over) it seems logical to me to start awarding ER bonus once a bowler starts conceding less than 10 per over. More SR bonus available the more a batsman bats and the higher score he gets. More ER bonus available the more a bowler bowls and the more economical he is.

I agree with a moving amount for bowlers. It is much harder to stay economical over 4 overs than 1. However, it would be harder for 1 over in a 5 over game compared to 1 over in a 20 over game, so maybe it needs to move accordingly? I guess the next argument is if it is different for a game that starts then gets reduced compared to a game where the reduced over amount is already known?

 

[Herbie66]

0/0

See what tomorrow brings

Only advantage is we can get Sixers and Thunder at a reduced price for next season

 

[Chumpion]

I like the call about reverting to the runs + difference in balls faced method. What’s tricky for the bowlers is so much of their scoring is event based (wicket, maiden, etc) and so ER could still be too much of a benefit if it’s made too easy. But that could be solved for reducing the value of a wicket I guess.
Will always be hard to find a balance though.. Ellis gets 41 points with the last ball of the match after getting hammered.. someone bowls 2 economical overs and gets nothing. It’s messy!

 

[Ben's Beasts]

0/0

Happy with the decision to trade out all three players that I owned from the match tonight.

Sydney badly needs their own Marvel Stadium and just play every game there for both the Thunder and Sixers.

 

[Spots]

0/0

See what tomorrow brings

Same, looking like a good decision to trade Green out and not waste any E’s… not that I could without any other Sydney players in my team 😜

 

[Post Nut Clarity]

Bit of a dumb question here but I haven’t really taken notice of abandoned games in the past…

Assuming tonight’s game is abandoned does Jack Edwards score of 44 still stand and if so is it worth bringing on field for a Thornton/Merridth type!?

 

[Chumpion]

0/0 but the Edwards E is handy enough if team selection doesn’t go my way

 

[Chumpion]

Bit of a dumb question here but I haven’t really taken notice of abandoned games in the past…

Assuming tonight’s game is abandoned does Jack Edwards score of 44 still stand and if so is it worth bringing on field for a Thornton/Merridth type!?

Yep, once a ball is bowled all scores (even if they didn’t take meaningful part) count.

 

[mike89]

Bit of a dumb question here but I haven’t really taken notice of abandoned games in the past…

Assuming tonight’s game is abandoned does Jack Edwards score of 44 still stand and if so is it worth bringing on field for a Thornton/Merridth type!?

Yes and yes. Scores count for everyone the moment the first ball is bowled.

 

[Sideshow Bob]

0/0 have Edwards E but can’t see taking that, good to have sitting there I guess