Discussion 2025: AFL SuperCoach Discussion

[Chumpion]

I remember he played a pre-season game against the Hawks last season and did really well (30 disposals). I did hear from a few Dogs fans at the time that Hawthorn would regret picking Watson rather than Sanders after that game, as they were picked back to back in the draft. No regrets from my end at least with the choice made.

Could possibly be a pre-season specialist, as his best game in the season proper last year was 23 disposals.

I think your last line is probably on the money to a degree, in that outside of positional changes you can’t really read too much into stats and impact until it gets at least semi competitive in preseason games closer to the season starting.
There are a raft of reasons a guy can fill his plate in January and not hit the same levels in the real thing..

 

[donnybuang]

I remember he played a pre-season game against the Hawks last season and did really well (30 disposals). I did hear from a few Dogs fans at the time that Hawthorn would regret picking Watson rather than Sanders after that game, as they were picked back to back in the draft. No regrets from my end at least with the choice made.

Could possibly be a pre-season specialist, as his best game in the season proper last year was 23 disposals.

His points per minute were pretty good for a rookie, just needs to be on the ground more.

 

[Connoisseur]

I think your last line is probably on the money to a degree, in that outside of positional changes you can’t really read too much into stats and impact until it gets at least semi competitive in preseason games closer to the season starting.

And even then it is hard to take seriously given it is largely a waste of time for the established players on the list but it is amusing season after season seeing the overreactions to scores or lack thereof due to the lengthy absence between drinks. Really only important for your rookies and players in the early stages of their careers.

 

[Chumpion]

And even then it is hard to take seriously given it is largely a waste of time for the established players on the list but it is amusing season after season seeing the overreactions to scores or lack thereof due to the lengthy absence between drinks. Really only important for your rookies and players in the early stages of their careers.

Spot on. Some things are worth noting around positional changes (eg Maric shaping as the rebounding defender type) but even then you need to wait to know for sure if it’ll stick in the real thing!

 

[mwross91]

Current iteration.
Few locks then I've looked for value. Plenty of big watches over the preseason. Thoughts?

 

[OnTopBar]

I think I'm loading up on too many $200-$300k players

Schoenmaker $270k- probably a placeholder for Coleman
H Garcia $245k-similar to above for Phillipou
Daniel $269k-happiest with this one
Maric $223k-role dependent as are all
Flynn $261k-again reliant on being No.1 ruck.

An average of 75-80 for all of the above would be the benchmark as well as the avoidance of the sub vest.

Team still has 8 solid keepers, 5 MP's that are possibly keepers, 2 more stepping stones (Peatling & Rivers) with 4 rookie priced players on field. If things go well then it's possible to have a completed team using 24 trades.

 

[Herbie66]

I think I'm loading up on too many $200-$300k players

Schoenmaker $270k- probably a placeholder for Coleman
H Garcia $245k-similar to above for Phillipou
Daniel $269k-happiest with this one
Maric $223k-role dependent as are all
Flynn $261k-again reliant on being No.1 ruck.

An average of 75-80 for all of the above would be the benchmark as well as the avoidance of the sub vest.

Team still has 8 solid keepers, 5 MP's that are possibly keepers, 2 more stepping stones (Peatling & Rivers) with 4 rookie priced players on field. If things go well then it's possible to have a completed team using 24 trades.

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Why worry when their is still 37 days to go.

How much cash remaining ?

Using a cheap bench won't help if they don't show up in any case.

All these sides being posted look good on paper , but are pretty much pointless and meaningless at this stage.

Once Round 1 comes we probably change a third of our sides in any case

Rookies will show up that no one has even mentioned.

I do like that $ 200-300k bracket though , think it was 2 (maybe 3 seasons ago) they actually did well , throw in the likes of Cumming , Doedee & Milera etc as well.

All depends on the must have rookies.

Does look like a strong starting structure though ✓

 

[Russty_]

Why worry when their is still 37 days to go.

How much cash remaining ?

Using a cheap bench won't help if they don't show up in any case.

All these sides being posted look good on paper , but are pretty much pointless and meaningless at this stage.

Once Round 1 comes we probably change a third of our sides in any case

Rookies will show up that no one has even mentioned.

I do like that $ 200-300k bracket though , think it was 2 (maybe 3 seasons ago) they actually did well , throw in the likes of Cumming , Doedee & Milera etc as well.

All depends on the must have rookies.

Does look like a strong starting structure though ✓

Hey Herb, that's why I haven't posted a side, not only is it changing regularly but who knows who'll be there when it kicks off, nothing like the first selection night where we're shuffling guys around like a crazy jigsaw puzzle trying to make them all fit

 

[Herbie66]

Hey Herb, that's why I haven't posted a side, not only is it changing regularly but who knows who'll be there when it kicks off, nothing like the first selection night where we're shuffling guys around like a crazy jigsaw puzzle trying to make them all fit

I think I have played around with 50 different starting sides/structures and just going around and round in circles

Just have to (try) and stay away from changing everything each hour 😀

Be nice to fast forward to Round 0 & 1 and actually being able to lock some players in

Might just make a Round 0 side for the fun of it and leave it until Round 1 teams are announced

 

[Singapore Flyers]

I think I'm loading up on too many $200-$300k players

Schoenmaker $270k- probably a placeholder for Coleman
H Garcia $245k-similar to above for Phillipou
Daniel $269k-happiest with this one
Maric $223k-role dependent as are all
Flynn $261k-again reliant on being No.1 ruck.

An average of 75-80 for all of the above would be the benchmark as well as the avoidance of the sub vest.

Team still has 8 solid keepers, 5 MP's that are possibly keepers, 2 more stepping stones (Peatling & Rivers) with 4 rookie priced players on field. If things go well then it's possible to have a completed team using 24 trades.

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I really like the attention to R12 and R13 byes
Premo and MP structure also good
Think 2 players from R2 is one too many
Also think your bench cover is too light and you may need to divert funds to it
Flanders and Smillie are both unlikely for R1. Changing Flanders also helps with R2 - but it is Hobson’s choice - Sheezel R12, Whitfield R2.

 

[OnTopBar]

I really like the attention to R12 and R13 byes
Premo and MP structure also good
Think 2 players from R2 is one too many
Also think your bench cover is too light and you may need to divert funds to it
Flanders and Smillie are both unlikely for R1. Changing Flanders also helps with R2 - but it is Hobson’s choice - Sheezel R12, Whitfield R2.

Thanks mate.

I guess the cheap bench has come from diverting funds to those $200-$300k players. It's unlikely that there'll be that many solid contributors at those prices but I do hold out a bit of hope for most of them.

I do think that we've been spoilt over the last few years with high priced rookies performing well, Ashcroft, Daicos, Sheezel & McKercher were gifts, throw in Dempsey and Darcy last year for good measure, there were others that had very good roles like Roberts plus the odd mature ager like Clohesy and Mannagh. I'm not seeing many, if any, of the higher priced rookies performing to those sort of levels, in particular the first 4 mentioned. Their scoring will be stymied by the roles being projected and even when they do get games then the dreaded vest raises it's ugly head.

This may seem as a bit of 'hand wringing' but I followed the draft pretty closely this year given the amount of high picks the Tigers had. Consequently, none of the top picks have me really interested, even Jagga (who's the best accumulator of the lot) will spend the majority of time forward of the ball with stints in the mids. If Xavier Lindsay get's a gig as a distributor from HB then he'll be a required starter, Smillie is a placeholder. There's a host of other players on my watch list who'll no doubt come into consideration and they're mainly 2nd and 3rd year players. I don't mind having the cheaper rookies on the bench (different if on field) as they can score 15PPG less than the higher priced ones for the same cash gen.

I didn't realise that there were doubts on Flander's for round 1, so I'll have to adjust if that's the case, not a great deal of choice as you said though but would lean towards Sheezel seeing as I only have 3 players on the round 12 bye ATS although Xerri is planned to come in for Darcy after 5 rounds. I don't mind having 2 round 2 players as there's just the 4 rookie priced players, meaning just one rookie score has to be taken after losing the worst 5 scores.

It's obviously all conjecture but the basic structure, which has been built around all of the byes, shouldn't change much.

 

[Erek22]

Adding in case anyone missed it (https://www.supercoach.com.au/afl/news/article/f612ae58484fa45eb43ca227b54d5725)

Can the Flex player be nominated as captain or vice-captain?

Yes. The Flex player is treated the same as anyone else in your starting line-up and can be traded, substituted (with another player in the corresponding position or via DPP) or named C or VC. One factor to keep in mind - there is no emergency cover for your selected Flex player. If they don't play, the zero will drop out of your total for the week as your 23rd score, but there will be no cover from the bench.

How does best 22 scoring work and are emergencies included?

Each round, you’ll score from your best 22 players only in any position, from your selected, on-field Starting 23, including your Flex player. You’ll still need to ensure that your best available players are in your starting line-up. Select up to four Emergencies across the DEF, MID, RUC and FWD positions. Emergencies will continue to replace non-starting players in your starting line-up, in the same position (including any ‘bye’ player that you may have left in your starting line-up) and their score will only count if it is in your Best 22.

What happens if my captain is not in my best 22?

If your captain’s doubled score is not in your Best 22 scores for the round, then their points will not count - you simply get your Best 22 scores only. Similarly, if your captain’s doubled score is not in your best 22 scores, you do NOT automatically receive double points from your vice captain - your vice captain only receives double points if your captain does not play for any reason.

 

[AngryAnt]

Six mid price forward line looking a real possibility at this stage I reckon.

 

[Under The Dome]

Six mid price forward line looking a real possibility at this stage I reckon.

The line with a fair amount of rookies aswell.

 

[Serj]

My inability to decide in the ruck line has led to me currently settling on this. Go ahead and rip it to shreds please!

 

[Ben's Beasts]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886668934146822409

View: https://twitter.com/aflratings/status/1886668934146822409

 

[Shannon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886668934146822409

View: https://twitter.com/aflratings/status/1886668934146822409

Think Boyd at R3 is the prudent play with that news until we get more info closer to round 1, too much risk having him on the field.

 

[BIGB0Y]

My hero from 2018 grand final has done a acl and out for the season, wishing Dom Sheed well.

 

[freowho]

Think Boyd at R3 is the prudent play with that news until we get more info closer to round 1, too much risk having him on the field.

I'm also thinking Flynn and Williams are probably in a job share. Wasn't the original plan for Williams to be a hybrid player?

 

[Shannon]

I'm also thinking Flynn and Williams are probably in a job share. Wasn't the original plan for Williams to be a hybrid player?

Yes it was, unless Flynn becomes the clear number 1 he is probably a fade/ too much uncertainty