Discussion 2025: AFL SuperCoach Discussion
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Ya, he's not a bad option IMO. I just prefer SC starting defensive players I pick to have some of kick ins, pure intercept marking ability, or to have midfield time. Provides a floor to scoring. If he works as a pick its because Freo are a top 4 contender as he'll likely be involved in scoring chains etc. If its between him and NWM I would pick the Saint as I think he's getting more kick ins this season at a lower price, albeit in a worse team.
Little unsure as to the point of that stat. Is the point that Freo won't be using backwards kicks as much? And if so buyer beware? JL made that point post bye last year re padding stats and so no surprise that is where most of those lowest numbers come from.
I could also say that Ryan ave 126 when Freo had double digit kick in numbers and only 104 when it was single numbers. But what do you take from that stat?
I could also say that Ryan ave 126 when Freo had double digit kick in numbers and only 104 when it was single numbers. But what do you take from that stat?
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He did a follow up to this one he posted a few days ago. The bigger average is when they kicked it back to Ryan so that he drive the ball forward for big points.
https://x.com/FantasyFreako/status/1889501008495255851
https://x.com/FantasyFreako/status/1889501008495255851
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I have had teams with all of these guys in but realistically I don’t think it’ll be viable even if all of them end up beating their worthwhile average, which I agree there is a strong chance they all do.
The thing I don’t like with starting these types of guys is you’re potentially reducing the amount of top 8 mids you can pick. Lots of teams that went with the ‘fake premium’ strategy last year ended up falling way behind post bye for example, if they owned a Miller over a Neale or a Walsh over a Butters. I have no idea whether Miller or Walsh beat their worthwhile average but they were certainly a tier below the top mids whilst being very popular.
The point I’m trying to make is there’s a good chance you can get off to a good start targeting bulk value options and having less rookies on field but as then season goes on and you don’t have the top mids putting up repeated 130+ scores you’ll fall pretty far behind. The challenge is probably finding the right balance of value but also trying to hit the right Uber players as well.
The thing I don’t like with starting these types of guys is you’re potentially reducing the amount of top 8 mids you can pick. Lots of teams that went with the ‘fake premium’ strategy last year ended up falling way behind post bye for example, if they owned a Miller over a Neale or a Walsh over a Butters. I have no idea whether Miller or Walsh beat their worthwhile average but they were certainly a tier below the top mids whilst being very popular.
The point I’m trying to make is there’s a good chance you can get off to a good start targeting bulk value options and having less rookies on field but as then season goes on and you don’t have the top mids putting up repeated 130+ scores you’ll fall pretty far behind. The challenge is probably finding the right balance of value but also trying to hit the right Uber players as well.
I actually think the learning here is to trade aggressively. You can definitely start more of these mid/high tied 400-550k players, but you've got to do so knowing that realistically it's a win if you end up holding 1 all year.
I'm not that big on Day, and have flirted with both Cerra and Ashcroft in my side. Clarry is the only I have confidence on as being most likely to still be in my team come the end of the year. But if I'm starting a Cerra or Ashcroft, it's because it enables me to not start a questionable rookie like Travaglia or Berry who could end up sub vest and being able to bring in a Milera, or Schoenmakers who I'm more confident in for scoring, JS and cash gen. With the goal that in 6-10 weeks I can then downgrade them to a roookie and get Cerra/ Ashcroft up to the premo that's popping off.
I think the winner last year only had 4 players that he held all year (well 5 if you include his loophole). So even if you are starting all these mid pricers, then it doesn't mean they'll even be in your side come the bye rounds.
I'm not that big on Day, and have flirted with both Cerra and Ashcroft in my side. Clarry is the only I have confidence on as being most likely to still be in my team come the end of the year. But if I'm starting a Cerra or Ashcroft, it's because it enables me to not start a questionable rookie like Travaglia or Berry who could end up sub vest and being able to bring in a Milera, or Schoenmakers who I'm more confident in for scoring, JS and cash gen. With the goal that in 6-10 weeks I can then downgrade them to a roookie and get Cerra/ Ashcroft up to the premo that's popping off.
I think the winner last year only had 4 players that he held all year (well 5 if you include his loophole). So even if you are starting all these mid pricers, then it doesn't mean they'll even be in your side come the bye rounds.
In no particular order, these four are currently sitting on an average of approximately 101, 102, 104 and 108 from 30+ responses each as to what they will average this year in the expected averages topic I am running (minor spoilers for tonight's reveal). If you think they all go 110+, I can tell you that based on consensus expectations here, none of the four will average that.
Definitely could happen for one or two, but I wouldn't like the chances of all 4 doing it. Could be a winning move of course, up to you what you do.
Definitely could happen for one or two, but I wouldn't like the chances of all 4 doing it. Could be a winning move of course, up to you what you do.