Discussion 2025: AFL SC - Rate My Team

[Woodsey]

Def: Gone relatively heavy since it looks to be the thinnest line in terms of rookies and I think a lot has to go right for the mid price picks of Roberts/SDK to be good starters.
Sheezel and Mills locked with NWM close to it.

Mid: So much value this year. Others on the watch list are Cerra, Peatling & Richards.

Bont and Clarry locked and H Reid very close to it. I know he had a bit of a preseason niggle but we saw how good his ceiling was last year and hopefully learns a bit from the tags/ another preseason to higher his floor.

Hate Ashcrofts Rd4 bye but I want him for the game vs Eagles Rd3.

Rucks:
Pretty nailed but Gawn might come in for Xerri since I have so many Rd12 bye players but would need to find 50k somewhere

Fwd:
Lots of really solid mid price choices to choose from and they’re all really common picks this year. Will be watching Sanders, Phillipou, Maric and a few others. Seem to be lots of rookies so might end up dropping a mid pricer for a rookie in terms of structure but will wait and see.

Flex: Basically a toss up at this point for who you think is the next best up. Could even be a rookie in the fwd line I missed. Bryan a placeholder at the minute but don’t know enough about him to have it locked. Will watch and wait.

Sidenote: This year could be the most Nth players I’ve ever started! Love the D/F Whitlock and eventual Daniel link too

 

[Vicwood]

Welcome to the house of pods. I think the flex position is nailed in terms of expected points.

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Perryman, i am surprised not much talk on his role at the Pies. Early bye round i guess shared with Mills.

Have you considered Dawson to a Cerra allows J.Clarke to a Peatling.

Maybe maybe remove Hutchinson and bring Hewitt on field cheap rookie to the bench. This may give you enough coin to get Peatling at M5

Daniel at flex makes sense. He is the best priced player this year and covers 2 lines.

 

[Vicwood]

A rough team to get from MPM to top liners in 31.5 trades with 8 kept throughout.

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With the ballzy move at R2 have you considered a Ruck at the Flex. Meek of Sweet. Keep JHF and remove Rankine.

Fine line between being bold and reckless. With Draper around and the coach with a history of last minute changes you season could go pear shape early.

Good Luck

 

[Vicwood]

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Warming to Perryman even with the shared bye with Mills. Williams is a interesting one, where do you see his role at with Port.

 

[Vicwood]

Def: Gone relatively heavy since it looks to be the thinnest line in terms of rookies and I think a lot has to go right for the mid price picks of Roberts/SDK to be good starters.
Sheezel and Mills locked with NWM close to it.

Mid: So much value this year. Others on the watch list are Cerra, Peatling & Richards.

Bont and Clarry locked and H Reid very close to it. I know he had a bit of a preseason niggle but we saw how good his ceiling was last year and hopefully learns a bit from the tags/ another preseason to higher his floor.

Hate Ashcrofts Rd4 bye but I want him for the game vs Eagles Rd3.

Rucks:
Pretty nailed but Gawn might come in for Xerri since I have so many Rd12 bye players but would need to find 50k somewhere

Fwd:
Lots of really solid mid price choices to choose from and they’re all really common picks this year. Will be watching Sanders, Phillipou, Maric and a few others. Seem to be lots of rookies so might end up dropping a mid pricer for a rookie in terms of structure but will wait and see.

Flex: Basically a toss up at this point for who you think is the next best up. Could even be a rookie in the fwd line I missed. Bryan a placeholder at the minute but don’t know enough about him to have it locked. Will watch and wait.

Sidenote: This year could be the most Nth players I’ve ever started! Love the D/F Whitlock and eventual Daniel link too
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Nice team. I just believe their is better value on the board for LDU.

Enjoy the season.

 

[Connoisseur]

Warming to Perryman even with the shared bye with Mills. Williams is a interesting one, where do you see his role at with Port.

For Perryman, hoping for a larger slice of the 3300 pie at Collingwood. Has shown he can average 90 before and if playing midfield could return to the 22 Disposals and 5 Tackles range.

As for D Williams, moreso the price point. If he does not appear in RD1, then an easy switch to a similarly priced midfield or forward rookie and a cheaper mid/fwd bench option becomes Whitlock moving a def bench rookie onfield.

 

[Zagbag]

Nice team, pretty template so far.

Just my opinion but anyone looking to fade Smith is just overthinking it. I'm not expecting him to crack 100 or be a keeper but he can sit at F6 for one of my last upgrades if someone else appears. Sanders has far too many question marks for my liking with the role and coach, still in consideration for me but wouldn't be letting go of Smith to do get him in.

I am steadily cooling on Smith.

History says he's a 95 player before the injury / off field issues (on vague uptrend, sure). He's now fresh from a LTI and out of the game for over 12 months.

If he realistically needs to 90+ in order to be a pass mark as a pick, there's certainly no guarantee of that happening. He'd need to be straight back to the player he was. Risk he goes 80-85 first 10 rounds and becomes a problem?

I guess if Bowes, Bruhn etc. can score okay in Cats midfield then Smith should be okay.

 

[Herbie66]

Def: Gone relatively heavy since it looks to be the thinnest line in terms of rookies and I think a lot has to go right for the mid price picks of Roberts/SDK to be good starters.
Sheezel and Mills locked with NWM close to it.

Mid: So much value this year. Others on the watch list are Cerra, Peatling & Richards.

Bont and Clarry locked and H Reid very close to it. I know he had a bit of a preseason niggle but we saw how good his ceiling was last year and hopefully learns a bit from the tags/ another preseason to higher his floor.

Hate Ashcrofts Rd4 bye but I want him for the game vs Eagles Rd3.

Rucks:
Pretty nailed but Gawn might come in for Xerri since I have so many Rd12 bye players but would need to find 50k somewhere

Fwd:
Lots of really solid mid price choices to choose from and they’re all really common picks this year. Will be watching Sanders, Phillipou, Maric and a few others. Seem to be lots of rookies so might end up dropping a mid pricer for a rookie in terms of structure but will wait and see.

Flex: Basically a toss up at this point for who you think is the next best up. Could even be a rookie in the fwd line I missed. Bryan a placeholder at the minute but don’t know enough about him to have it locked. Will watch and wait.

Sidenote: This year could be the most Nth players I’ve ever started! Love the D/F Whitlock and eventual Daniel link too
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Daniel is already DPP though , can't get D to link with Whitlock

 

[freowho]

I am steadily cooling on Smith.

History says he's a 95 player before the injury / off field issues (on vague uptrend, sure). He's now fresh from a LTI and out of the game for over 12 months.

If he realistically needs to 90+ in order to be a pass mark as a pick, there's certainly no guarantee of that happening. He'd need to be straight back to the player he was. Risk he goes 80-85 first 10 rounds and becomes a problem?

I guess if Bowes, Bruhn etc. can score okay in Cats midfield then Smith should be okay.

I've cooled as well. Mainly because we have so many forwards to choose from and we can't have them all. I'm not too worried about him averaging 95-100 which I think he will do. He becomes a nice pick but doesn't really hurt non owners. He really only hurts non owners if he becomes a Heeney / Flanders and averages 110+ and I can't see that. He's not as good as those players. Maybe in AFL Fantasy but not in Supercoach.
1. ACL returners are often slow to get back to full match fitness straight away.
2. He doesn't have the cleanest disposal.
3. Will he have the space at Kardinia Park?
4. Some of his big scoring in 2022 was with high time on ground. Does he get that again.
5. Does he miss with "illness"?

 

[Nathan]

Haven’t played for a few years but can’t wait to get back into it. Avoiding early bye players apart from the value. The Erasmus spot is actually for donut, if he plays ill swap out for another Perth based player.

 

[Herbie66]

For Perryman, hoping for a larger slice of the 3300 pie at Collingwood. Has shown he can average 90 before and if playing midfield could return to the 22 Disposals and 5 Tackles range.

As for D Williams, moreso the price point. If he does not appear in RD1, then an easy switch to a similarly priced midfield or forward rookie and a cheaper mid/fwd bench option becomes Whitlock moving a def bench rookie onfield.

Does he get to 90 though ?

Only N Daicos & Cameron went above that for Collingwood last season.

Add Houston to the mix.

Lots of mouths to feed with J Daicos (89.6) , Crisp (87.2 last season) , Pendlebury (86.5) , De Goey (82) , Howe etc etc

We like sharing the SC points pie around

Sounds like he will be playing the negating mid role and rotating through HB / W (?) although set positions are more and more redundant in the modern game.

So many choices for defence , could be anywhere close to 15 capable of a 105 season.

I guess we all aim to have the entire highest averaging players on each line (depends when we trade them in) but how often does it actually happen.

Early Bye doesn't help for Perryman , advantage is having a free look in opening round before committing to him.

Was looking at Williams (or Sinn) but then read that neither was used as the distributor in match sim , think Burton was the main name mentioned.

Isn't the knock on Williams that he is to slow to play defence ?

Find out in the next few weeks

 

[froffershanners]

Structure: Currently 7 "premiums" or $500k+ players with 12 mid-pricers. Fieldable rookies will likely pop up throughout the pre-season matches which will cause a change in my structure but not many defender or forward rookies I am happy fielding at the moment.

Defenders: Finding it hard on this line to be honest, don't really love any of the options and hoping it becomes much clearer in the next couple of weeks. Since I last posted a team on the 21st of January all these players are different to what I had.

Sheezel - not 100% sold on the price but looks to be the main guy in their midfield at the moment. Will watch role closely in proper pre-season hitouts as feel as though he may not be worth the price if he spends quite a bit of time up forward. A lot to run through their mids with LDU, Powell, Phillips, Parker and emergence of McKercher in there.

Wanganeen-Milera - the injury to Sinclair kind of forced this and another year of development shows he will likely continue to improve. Think the Saints will look to feed him and may have some slight upside at the price.

Short - think he will get back to mid 90s quite easily with the ability to push up to that 100+ mark with the amount of footy that will be in their backline this year. Game style reports from yesterday with them moving the ball slowly definitely helps.

Mills - pretty obvious pick here and free look in round 0.

Schoenmaker - love his booming left foot and feel as though the Saints may use it enough to make him a short term cash play and avoiding any rookie scores down back is a bonus. Averaged 96 fantasy points in the VFL last year showing he is a natural scorer.

Milera - held together by masking tape but averaged 78 since the start of 2023 which would be enough at his price.

Rookies just placeholders at the moment.

Other non-rookie players in consideration: Sinclair, Holmes, Sicily, McKercher, Duggan, Rivers, Roberts, Perryman, SDK

Midfielders: probably my most settled line, my M1-M5 hasn't changed since I last posted. Just some fiddling with the rookies but largely the same. Other players I am considering: Bont, Butters, Serong, Dawson, Richards, Day, Docherty, Hollands, Cumming

Rucks: Darcy had to go with his injury and have shuffled the cards to spend up on Xerri as not really sure there is any other option. English is the main one I am considering but if Crossley makes the final list then he is no chance of making my team.

Xerri - think he is fully priced but still a fairly safe pick with the lack of options around him.

Forwards: been chopping and changing quite a bit here but structurally sticking to the same.

Rankine - preferring him over JHF at the moment but will depend on pre-season games to see where his role settles.

Sanders - the Treloar injury is great news for Sanders prospects even though he still may be 4th in line for CBAs. Dogs have shown they have the gameplan to sustain bulk scoring in their midfield so 4th in line might be enough for a forward eligible player at his price.

Garcia - has the perfect fantasy game with his love for tackling and contested footy. Hoping he is the beneficiary of Phillipou injury and could be that 4th guy in their mid rotation.

 

[Erek22]

Does he get to 90 though ?

Only N Daicos & Cameron went above that for Collingwood last season.

Add Houston to the mix.

Lots of mouths to feed with J Daicos (89.6) , Crisp (87.2 last season) , Pendlebury (86.5) , De Goey (82) , Howe etc etc

We like sharing the SC points pie around

Sounds like he will be playing the negating mid role and rotating through HB / W (?) although set positions are more and more redundant in the modern game.

So many choices for defence , could be anywhere close to 15 capable of a 105 season.

I guess we all aim to have the entire highest averaging players on each line (depends when we trade them in) but how often does it actually happen.

Early Bye doesn't help for Perryman , advantage is having a free look in opening round before committing to him.

Was looking at Williams (or Sinn) but then read that neither was used as the distributor in match sim , think Burton was the main name mentioned.

Isn't the knock on Williams that he is to slow to play defence ?

Find out in the next few weeks

Jager bomb as flex

 

[Chumpion]

I am steadily cooling on Smith.

History says he's a 95 player before the injury / off field issues (on vague uptrend, sure). He's now fresh from a LTI and out of the game for over 12 months.

If he realistically needs to 90+ in order to be a pass mark as a pick, there's certainly no guarantee of that happening. He'd need to be straight back to the player he was. Risk he goes 80-85 first 10 rounds and becomes a problem?

I guess if Bowes, Bruhn etc. can score okay in Cats midfield then Smith should be okay.

I've cooled as well. Mainly because we have so many forwards to choose from and we can't have them all. I'm not too worried about him averaging 95-100 which I think he will do. He becomes a nice pick but doesn't really hurt non owners. He really only hurts non owners if he becomes a Heeney / Flanders and averages 110+ and I can't see that. He's not as good as those players. Maybe in AFL Fantasy but not in Supercoach.
1. ACL returners are often slow to get back to full match fitness straight away.
2. He doesn't have the cleanest disposal.
3. Will he have the space at Kardinia Park?
4. Some of his big scoring in 2022 was with high time on ground. Does he get that again.
5. Does he miss with "illness"?

The big thing with fading Smith is who are you replacing him with, and how does that player go? Sometimes with these highly owned toss up calls it's better to just follow the pack in and jump when you know where to, rather than risk having to still use a correction trade on the wrong pick (which is compounded if Smith goes well).
FWIW I don't think he'll be a great scorer, I think he'll averaging something passable but it'll be with a lower floor and high ceiling. He'll have some 70s/80s scores in there and some 120+ scores, and will also score in bursts within games. One thing I haven't seen a lot of in the fading him conversations though who is who would be picked instead, and what is that player likely to do.
At the moment he isn't in my team but that's because I had the coin to get Daniels who I think is massively flying under the radar this preseason and has genuine keeper potential. He added a lot to the mid mix last season and with more of a tank and Stringer coming in up forward, I think he is primed to surprise many. So for me I think fading a guy who is a small chance of being a strong keeper for a guy only slightly more expensive but with more upside makes sense. Which isn't to say Smith won't find his way into my team at some point, I was just able to do what I think is better from that price point.

 

[BIGB0Y]

The big thing with fading Smith is who are you replacing him with, and how does that player go? Sometimes with these highly owned toss up calls it's better to just follow the pack in and jump when you know where to, rather than risk having to still use a correction trade on the wrong pick (which is compounded if Smith goes well).
FWIW I don't think he'll be a great scorer, I think he'll averaging something passable but it'll be with a lower floor and high ceiling. He'll have some 70s/80s scores in there and some 120+ scores, and will also score in bursts within games. One thing I haven't seen a lot of in the fading him conversations though who is who would be picked instead, and what is that player likely to do.
At the moment he isn't in my team but that's because I had the coin to get Daniels who I think is massively flying under the radar this preseason and has genuine keeper potential. He added a lot to the mid mix last season and with more of a tank and Stringer coming in up forward, I think he is primed to surprise many. So for me I think fading a guy who is a small chance of being a strong keeper for a guy only slightly more expensive but with more upside makes sense. Which isn't to say Smith won't find his way into my team at some point, I was just able to do what I think is better from that price point.

For me it's him or sanders, i was thinking about Parker but put a line through his name. I'm leaning more towards sanders watching his game he got into a lot of good positions to get the cheap handball from the centre bounce but didn't have the class around him on the same page. I think the likes of bont, libba , trealor will help him score better. That's my opinion from what i saw.

 

[freowho]

The big thing with fading Smith is who are you replacing him with, and how does that player go? Sometimes with these highly owned toss up calls it's better to just follow the pack in and jump when you know where to, rather than risk having to still use a correction trade on the wrong pick (which is compounded if Smith goes well).
FWIW I don't think he'll be a great scorer, I think he'll averaging something passable but it'll be with a lower floor and high ceiling. He'll have some 70s/80s scores in there and some 120+ scores, and will also score in bursts within games. One thing I haven't seen a lot of in the fading him conversations though who is who would be picked instead, and what is that player likely to do.
At the moment he isn't in my team but that's because I had the coin to get Daniels who I think is massively flying under the radar this preseason and has genuine keeper potential. He added a lot to the mid mix last season and with more of a tank and Stringer coming in up forward, I think he is primed to surprise many. So for me I think fading a guy who is a small chance of being a strong keeper for a guy only slightly more expensive but with more upside makes sense. Which isn't to say Smith won't find his way into my team at some point, I was just able to do what I think is better from that price point.

I don't construct a team the same way that seems popular with a lot of other people. I have a spreadsheet and keep a pecking order of players and start from scratch each time I fill out the positions. If my estimate of BSmith goes from PIT100 to PIT90 it doesn't mean I have to find another F2. It might be that the flow on effect changes 3 or 4 other positions on the ground which in turn can also vastly change the budget. So every player on my watch list is competing with every other player on my watchlist. BSmith is on my watchlist and I still think he's an ok pick, but the last couple of times I've gone through the process BSmith hasn't ended up in my team because I've downgraded my expectations of him.

 

[BIGB0Y]

I don't construct a team the same way that seems popular with a lot of other people. I have a spreadsheet and keep a pecking order of players and start from scratch each time I fill out the positions. If my estimate of BSmith goes from PIT100 to PIT90 it doesn't mean I have to find another F2. It might be that the flow on effect changes 3 or 4 other positions on the ground which in turn can also vastly change the budget. So every player on my watch list is competing with every other player on my watchlist. BSmith is on my watchlist and I still think he's an ok pick, but the last couple of times I've gone through the process BSmith hasn't ended up in my team because I've downgraded my expectations of him.

Agreed. His the type of player that has to get 25-30 possessions to score in the 90s and 30-45 possessions to go 100-130. I don't see how often his going to achieve that.

 

[Chumpion]

I don't construct a team the same way that seems popular with a lot of other people. I have a spreadsheet and keep a pecking order of players and start from scratch each time I fill out the positions. If my estimate of BSmith goes from PIT100 to PIT90 it doesn't mean I have to find another F2. It might be that the flow on effect changes 3 or 4 other positions on the ground which in turn can also vastly change the budget. So every player on my watch list is competing with every other player on my watchlist. BSmith is on my watchlist and I still think he's an ok pick, but the last couple of times I've gone through the process BSmith hasn't ended up in my team because I've downgraded my expectations of him.

Yeah fair, definitely becomes difficult to compare options when a single pick ripples across the entire 31 and potentially changes too many selections. But fundamentally my overall point holds that if Smith is not in your forward line, someone else is in that spot. Now whether it's a 1:1 swap or a package swap of players, either way you need to look at whether you are absolutely better off without him vs whoever is in that spot in your 23.
Will be interesting to see how it all unfolds for people - I think it won't be immediately obvious whether selecting or fading is the right call, but instead we'll see it unfold over the first few rounds as we determine who were the good, bad and ugly value selections and if the forward rookies can score at a level that makes these 50/50 picks good or not.

 

[freowho]

Agreed. His the type of player that has to get 25-30 possessions to score in the 90s and 30-45 possessions to go 100-130. I don't see how often his going to achieve that.

I think he and Holmes could also burn each other a little bit as the dedicated distributors. Good for Geelong but might just take the shine off them as supercoach picks.

 

[BIGB0Y]

I think he and Holmes could also burn each other a little bit as the dedicated distributors. Good for Geelong but might just take the shine off them as supercoach picks.

I thinks Holmes is just a better player in general, who sits behind the ball that allows him to get intercept possession. I'm still keen on Holmes to add 10ppg.