Discussion 2025: AFL SuperCoach Discussion

[Under The Dome]

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[Chumpion]

Thing I like about Kako is that he was picked to be a small forward rather than a mid playing forward. Interested to see how Berry at Port goes as well.

Agreed. Also loved his intent to harass and tackle, plus genuine goal nous. Won’t kick bags every week but I think he’ll be solid enough and has a spike game in him. Priced ok with DPP too.. wouldn’t say he’s a lock but I think he should be in teams until a better option squeezes him out (if they can!)

 

[Ironhawk]

Thanks to all those who continued to post the SC scores every quarter after HT. I wasn't watching the game tonight (no Kayo/Fox for me), glad we have so many dedicated enough to regularly update here throughout the games though, especially when it's hard to follow the scoring progression otherwise. Very useful to have these stats at this time of year. Definitely appreciate all your efforts every game.

 

[froffershanners]

Nic Martin a chance for forward DPP with the role he is playing as the roaming high half forward.

Seems to just find the footy no matter where he plays. Don’t see him as a starting pick but will be an upgrade target especially if he can get forward status.

 

[Shannon]

Prior certainly putting his hand up for D6. Favouring Prior, Allan & Z Reid for D6-D8.

 

[Darkie]

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Tsatas:

=1 for possessions
#1 for contested possessions
#1 for clearances
#2 for metres gained

 

[Under The Dome]

Prior certainly putting his hand up for D6. Favouring Prior, Allan & Z Reid for D6-D8.

D5-8 with Paton thrown in.

I think there is a couple of M/F rookies to slot in M9-11 with a few FWD only clogging spots.

 

[KLo30]

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[GrainFedBeef]

Prior certainly putting his hand up for D6. Favouring Prior, Allan & Z Reid for D6-D8.

No strong view on essendon backline, Prior likely to play round 1? Competing against one or anyone injured.

Appreciate we will see OR, just trying to understand bigger picture on the former. Brisbane defender.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Tsatas:

=1 for possessions
#1 for contested possessions
#1 for clearances
#2 for metres gained

I think he’s a good starting selection but I also think he’s the type of player that will get found out quickly when the real stuff starts. He looks rushed to me and does turn the ball over a lot and I think the coaching staff might get a little tired of this after a few games.

 

[boulouxis]

any love for nick bryan looks like dons are going with him and drapper scored well both games so far

 

[Darkie]

any love for nick bryan looks like dons are going with him and drapper scored well both games so far

I jumped off him after the previous discussion that he may not be the Bomber’s #1, which seems to be supported by starting on the bench, and lagging Draper in TOG, hitouts and (I believe) CBAs. Draper playing 84% game time while Bryan only got 49% seems a pretty significant red flag, unless we hear a plausible alternate explanation.

 

[Darkie]

I think he’s a good starting selection but I also think he’s the type of player that will get found out quickly when the real stuff starts. He looks rushed to me and does turn the ball over a lot and I think the coaching staff might get a little tired of this after a few games.

I didn’t see the game, but noted that his SC scoring was low on a per possession basis. 71% DE isn’t bad with a high contested possession rate of 41%, but he did have 4 clangers with no frees against, so presumably all disposal related. Maybe it wasn’t so much the volume of poor disposals as the magnitude of the bad ones.

He has reportedly done a bunch of work on his kicking, and seems to have received a lot of praise from inside the club.

I did wonder whether a player like him, who is fighting to secure a spot, plays with a bit more nervous energy in the early games as they try to prove themselves. If he can start well and secure a spot, perhaps his disposal improves by taking a fraction more time before executing?

 

[Connoisseur]

I jumped off him after the previous discussion that he may not be the Bomber’s #1, which seems to be supported by starting on the bench, and lagging Draper in TOG, hitouts and (I believe) CBAs. Draper playing 84% game time while Bryan only got 49% seems a pretty significant red flag, unless we hear a plausible alternate explanation.

Best to use Ruck Contests Attended instead of Centre Bounce Attendances for rucks.
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[Darkie]

Best to use Ruck Contests Attended instead of Centre Bounce Attendances for rucks.
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Thank you - interesting that the CBAs were fairly evenly split, but Draper got more of the other ruck contests. Maybe that’s a slight positive for Bryan, if anything I would have thought CBAs would be skewed to the preferred #1 and other ruck contests may end up being the other way around, depending on how they approach it.

 

[Under The Dome]

I would've been more worried on Wright and Edwards playing more. An easy watch in R0 though

 

[Connoisseur]

Thank you - interesting that the CBAs were fairly evenly split, but Draper got more of the other ruck contests. Maybe that’s a slight positive for Bryan, albeit I’d expect the preferred candidate to get more of each unless it’s a real ruck share.

CBA not reflective of the bigger picture and reliant on lots of inferences. No magic multipliers received, more open game in the preseason may not lend itself to repeat stoppages immediately after a ball up in the same vicinity, coaches wanting to play around with centre bounce rotations, more open game may mean higher scoring and rucks do not take all stoppages between scores and set to a certain field area along with accounting for interchanges with 26 available, players rested for full or significant portions of quarters and so on.

Ruck Contests Attended:
Qtr by qtr breakdown:
Q1: S Draper: 19 (8 CBA)
N Bryan: 0 (0% TOG)

Q2:
S Draper: 10 (4 CBA)
N Bryan:8 (6 CBA)

Q3:
S Draper: 15 (4 CBA)
N Bryan: 10 (2 CBA)

Q4:
S Draper: 9 (1 CBA)
N Bryan: 12 (8 CBA)

 

[Darkie]

CBA not reflective of the bigger picture and reliant on lots of inferences. No magic multipliers received, more open game in the preseason may not lend itself to repeat stoppages immediately after a ball up in the same vicinity, coaches wanting to play around with centre bounce rotations, more open game may mean higher scoring and rucks do not take all stoppages between scores and set to a certain field area along with accounting for interchanges with 26 available, players rested for full or significant portions of quarters and so on.

Ruck Contests Attended:
Qtr by qtr breakdown:
Q1: S Draper: 19 (8 CBA)
N Bryan: 0 (0% TOG)

Q2:
S Draper: 10 (4 CBA)
N Bryan:8 (6 CBA)

Q3:
S Draper: 15 (4 CBA)
N Bryan: 10 (2 CBA)

Q4:
S Draper: 9 (1 CBA)
N Bryan: 12 (8 CBA)

Thanks - happy to have put a line through Bryan based on that.

Choice of ruck is sometimes matchup based, but Bryan not playing until after quarter time does not seem promising.

 

[Athomas]

Thanks - happy to have put a line through Bryan based on that.

Choice of ruck is sometimes matchup based, but Bryan not playing until after quarter time does not seem promising.

I think it was more Brad Scott getting in match fitness for his players, Wright played the first quarter (played a half in VFL) so he didn’t want Draper and Wright both playing forward.

Then in the 2nd quarter (no Wright) - Bryan came on and Draper was more forward.

It’s still very concerning though, that Essendon seem to have some decent tall forwards at the moment (Langford, Caddy, TEdwards, Wright) so the Draper forward experiment needs both Edwards and Wright out to really work, otherwise it seems like Draper and Bryan will both play, hurting each others TOG.

 

[Under The Dome]

CBA not reflective of the bigger picture and reliant on lots of inferences. No magic multipliers received, more open game in the preseason may not lend itself to repeat stoppages immediately after a ball up in the same vicinity, coaches wanting to play around with centre bounce rotations, more open game may mean higher scoring and rucks do not take all stoppages between scores and set to a certain field area along with accounting for interchanges with 26 available, players rested for full or significant portions of quarters and so on.

Ruck Contests Attended:
Qtr by qtr breakdown:
Q1: S Draper: 19 (8 CBA)
N Bryan: 0 (0% TOG)

Q2:
S Draper: 10 (4 CBA)
N Bryan:8 (6 CBA)

Q3:
S Draper: 15 (4 CBA)
N Bryan: 10 (2 CBA)

Q4:
S Draper: 9 (1 CBA)
N Bryan: 12 (8 CBA)

That's a great breakdown and nice preseason management across both games.