2014: Retirements, Delistings and Trade Rumours
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Thank Ablett!
Geez, i was worried of rumours a few days back he was coming to Carlton.
Would have been so angry.
The guy knees are stuffed. He can barely play anymore.
Anybody picking him up is nuts. But then again after all the stuff going on at Essendon in last three years this type of move is just another that would fit up there with stupid moves like signing Hird up for two years the same time AFL suspend him for a year for bringing game into disrepute.
Geez, i was worried of rumours a few days back he was coming to Carlton.
Would have been so angry.
The guy knees are stuffed. He can barely play anymore.
Anybody picking him up is nuts. But then again after all the stuff going on at Essendon in last three years this type of move is just another that would fit up there with stupid moves like signing Hird up for two years the same time AFL suspend him for a year for bringing game into disrepute.
I think only a Club that thinks it can win a premiership in the next 3 or 4 years should look at Mark Thompson, or maybe a Club at the bottom looking for a short term fix and then a handover to another coach ala Roos at Melbourne.
I don't see Bomber lasting as a full time coach for more than few years. He will get burned out again.
I actually see some subtle signs in Bomber that remind me of Kevin Sheedy and Michael Malthouse. Both of these coaches were brilliant coaches in their time but eventually they lose just that little bit of an edge. This is just my gut feeling. That said I would still love to have him around at Essendon helping Hirdy out for a few more years but that looks very unlikely to happen.
I don't see Bomber lasting as a full time coach for more than few years. He will get burned out again.
I actually see some subtle signs in Bomber that remind me of Kevin Sheedy and Michael Malthouse. Both of these coaches were brilliant coaches in their time but eventually they lose just that little bit of an edge. This is just my gut feeling. That said I would still love to have him around at Essendon helping Hirdy out for a few more years but that looks very unlikely to happen.
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I really struggle to see how Malthouse has ever been considered a BRILLIANT COACH. Don't get me wrong, I know he CAN coach well. He has had three premierships in his coaching career but I've never considered him at any time one of the better coaches in time I been watching footy. Remember, this is a guy that been at this caper for around 30 seasons. That is right. You expect him to get better at this in such a long time and improve strike rate if anything. THIRTY SEASONS of coaching for about 90% of time not been the premiership coach. How he is seen as a briliant coach is beyond me. He took basically a decade to win his last premiership at one club, with many draft picks from Collingwood being crap when Tony Shaw was coach. Well done he won a flag. Good job but not brilliant. If he won 2 or 3 premierships in that time. I would rate it up there near brilliance but this is one flag. Not a batch of flags like Leigh Matthews at Lions or Clarkson now or Sheedy back to back flags in 83 and 84 in an era of tough teams to beat. I just don't rate a strike rate of a flag once a decade as brilliant given the circumstances.
His first two premierships came at an expansions club that were given good concessions and list at it's peak to make the most of that help.
That was when he was at his peak but he had the list to make it so.
I feared all the rumours of him coming to Carlton and I was correct to worry why are we wasting money saying goodbye to a coach still relative new to caper and paying him out whilst also paying top dollar for a guy that not shown he can turn a club into a flag in less than a decade.
He's an annoying but good coach. But seriously the guy has never been some brilliant guy way better than others. It's nuts he spoken of in same light as some truly great coaches. He can coach but he is not what I would ever call a great coach.
BTW, McCartney has jumped on his sword...
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His first two premierships came at an expansions club that were given good concessions and list at it's peak to make the most of that help.
That was when he was at his peak but he had the list to make it so.
I feared all the rumours of him coming to Carlton and I was correct to worry why are we wasting money saying goodbye to a coach still relative new to caper and paying him out whilst also paying top dollar for a guy that not shown he can turn a club into a flag in less than a decade.
He's an annoying but good coach. But seriously the guy has never been some brilliant guy way better than others. It's nuts he spoken of in same light as some truly great coaches. He can coach but he is not what I would ever call a great coach.
BTW, McCartney has jumped on his sword...
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Lol yeah fair point Oz. I typed the previous post quickly so did not put any thought or meaning into the actual word 'brilliant' but was essentially meaning a very good coach. I do rate Sheedy, Matthews, Clarkson et al at their peak better than Mick, but I would off hand put Mick in the top 20% of all coaches of the past 3 decades.
He got the Eagles to finals for ten years straight, and then took another Club to a Flag. Once he finished at the Pies he should have stopped there.
He got the Eagles to finals for ten years straight, and then took another Club to a Flag. Once he finished at the Pies he should have stopped there.
Whats the deal with Sydney's C.O.L.A and not being able to trade. I must of missed something here.
While I don't agree with there cost of living allowance, Sydney are only playing by the rules that the AFL set them.
If there players already have contracts, I don't understand how the AFL can say stop the allowance now or don't trade, when the AFL set the rules for them in the first place.
Not good for Membery.
While I don't agree with there cost of living allowance, Sydney are only playing by the rules that the AFL set them.
If there players already have contracts, I don't understand how the AFL can say stop the allowance now or don't trade, when the AFL set the rules for them in the first place.
Not good for Membery.
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I'm not sure what is going on myself. At this stage the best I can understand from the headline is Swans must be bursting at the seams with the salary cap and AFL consider any more senior players added would be tipping them over the cap and only thing that temporarily stopping them being over it is the COLA which being phased out. So it seems they want to make sure Swans get under it and take no risks. The best way of that happening is to try to make sure new players to Swans are new draftees only. That is about the most I can make of this strange happening this week.