2015: Rookies

Which of the forward rookies look most likely to get a gig in your starting team?

  • Salem

    Votes: 73 59.8%
  • Clark

    Votes: 108 88.5%
  • Karnezis

    Votes: 23 18.9%
  • Hogan

    Votes: 67 54.9%
  • Lonie

    Votes: 36 29.5%
  • Krakouer

    Votes: 40 32.8%
  • Lambert

    Votes: 76 62.3%
  • Lamb

    Votes: 34 27.9%
  • Other (please name)

    Votes: 7 5.7%

  • Total voters
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Apparently Petracca was a chance to make the NBA.

Now i love my footy, more than my NBA but given the choice surely you gotta choose the NBA :confused:

Played with Exum at an elite junior level i'm pretty sure.
Google says he is 186cm tall. He may have been talented but highly unlikely at that height to really make it in the NBA, hence AFL it is.
 
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You betcha. Should be 123K and barring injury you'd expect him to play just about every game. Believing the hype on him he should be good for 60-70 average at the very least.
My understanding is that he (Hogan) is quite mobile and thus likely to get up the ground a bit to get his own ball (rather than stay at home forward). Could help ensure a good average.
 

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Google says he is 186cm tall. He may have been talented but highly unlikely at that height to really make it in the NBA, hence AFL it is.
Yeah i suppose but Exum is only a few inches taller and went top 5. Patty Mills is shorter than I am and Muggsy Bogues was shorter than my misses..lol

Maybe i'm blinded by the difference in pay but i'd find it very hard not to choose nba.
 
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My understanding is that he (Hogan) is quite mobile and thus likely to get up the ground a bit to get his own ball (rather than stay at home forward). Could help ensure a good average.
In the VFL last year (saw all of his games) he virtually never was further than 65m out from goal. He is a strong contested mark, great at ground level and a highly intelligent player.

His kicking for goal is inconsistent. Sometimes he can roost it from 60m straight through the middle. Occasionally he didn't made the distance from 35m with Josh J Kennedy like stutter steps ruining his kicking action.
 
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Jarrad Jansen, Brad Hartman and Darcy Lang as well as Geelong's pick 10 (if he's a mid) should get a good run at it with Christensen and Varcoe gone and Kelly barely hanging onto a spot.
Do you know much about Jansen long term? I drafted him last season in a ultimate footy keeper league.
 

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Yeah i suppose but Exum is only a few inches taller and went top 5. Patty Mills is shorter than I am and Muggsy Bogues was shorter than my misses..lol

Maybe i'm blinded by the difference in pay but i'd find it very hard not to choose nba.
Cricky Mills is only 183cm!

I take my post back, I was thinking they are all monsters these days!
 
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Pendles chose footy over an nba bound career as well.
Patty mills got pendles spot in the bball program when pendles left to play footy.
 

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Do you know much about Jansen long term? I drafted him last season in a ultimate footy keeper league.
Should be a very good player. Big-bodied, powerful inside midfielder. Surprised he didn't get a game or two last year because he was great in the VFL.
 

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Jarrad Jansen, Brad Hartman and Darcy Lang as well as Geelong's pick 10 (if he's a mid) should get a good run at it with Christensen and Varcoe gone and Kelly barely hanging onto a spot.
Yeah they are two to keep an eye on. With all the S's delisted too, Geelong have no depth! In defence or midfield. I think it means things fall to the others still there more, especially Duncan and Caddy. Those two plus Selwood, SJ, Stokes, Motlop, GHS, Guthrie, Kelly...plus Bartel I suppose, after that you're into the newbies.

Strange thing is I don't think there is a mid around 10 that would "fit" Geelong straight away. Wells must have his eye on someone though
 
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Should be a very good player. Big-bodied, powerful inside midfielder. Surprised he didn't get a game or two last year because he was great in the VFL.
good to hear/read. I got him with a late pick too
 

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Yeah they are two to keep an eye on. With all the S's delisted too, Geelong have no depth! In defence or midfield. I think it means things fall to the others still there more, especially Duncan and Caddy. Those two plus Selwood, SJ, Stokes, Motlop, GHS, Guthrie, Kelly...plus Bartel I suppose, after that you're into the newbies.

Strange thing is I don't think there is a mid around 10 that would "fit" Geelong straight away. Wells must have his eye on someone though
Wells could well pick a KPP though. Definitely need a key defender and if someone like Durdin slides to us then we would be mad to pass him up.
 

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The verdict: Did your club get what it needed at the 2014 NAB AFL Draft?
Callum Twomey November 29, 2014 1:15 PM


ADELAIDE
Draft selections: 14, 35, 43, 59
What we said before the draft: Should look for a key position player to add depth on one of those lines, having lost plenty of height in recent years. Some ruck support would be excellent.
What happened: Well, they pretty much delivered on those aims. Jake Lever getting through to the Crows was everything they could have hoped for, and he'll be a long-term defender for the club. Mitch McGovern adds tall depth in attack, while Harry Dear is another forward/ruck option who was worth a shot later on. They added some class in small left-footed defender Harrison Wigg, in what was a strong draft for the club.

BRISBANE LIONS
Draft selections: 44 (academy selection Liam Dawson), 63 (academy selection Harris Andrews), 67, 81, 117 (father-son selection Josh Clayton).
What we said before the draft: Will take what's on offer so late in the piece, but a running medium defender would be ideal.
What happened: As expected, the Lions found two taller defenders to build their stocks in that area. Tasmanian pair Josh McGuinness and Josh Watts were value picks late in the draft when the Lions entered proceedings, while Jaden McGrath will add some creativity. Having another tall in Harris Andrews and rebounder Liam Dawson already sewn up through the academy bidding system gave them a nice platform to build from.

CARLTON
Draft selections: 19, 28, 61, 65.
What we said before the draft: Need run and carry players, having already stocked their midfield with ball-winners.
What happened? Despite having been strongly linked to Blaine Boekhorst in the lead-up, it was still a surprise the Blues picked the 21-year-old at No.19. However, he is a runner who likes to give good drive through the midfield, which is what they addressed as a need. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow does that too, while Carlton also added another key forward to its ranks in Jayden Foster, who was eligible to join the Western Bulldogs under the father-son rule. Clem Smith offers some power and physicality in defence.

COLLINGWOOD
Draft selections: 5, 9 (father-son selection Darcy Moore), 30, 48, 85.
What we said before the draft: If they can find a couple of medium midfielders to add to their mix it would be ideal, having already secured tall Darcy Moore as a father-son.
What happened? The Pies clearly addressed their midfield needs by picking Jordan De Goey, a hard and tough half-forward who will become a full-time midfielder in time. Brayden Maynard is even more physical, while Matthew Goodyear was long on their radar and adds excellent athleticism. Those three, plus Moore already sorted, would make for a happy Pies' recruiting team.

ESSENDON
Draft selections: 17, 20, 62 (promoted Patrick Ambrose)
What we said before the draft: If they could snap up a midfielder and a tall it would be a perfect result. A runner should be a priority.
What happened? We said a tall and a runner would be ideal, and the Bombers might have got both in one pick with Jayden Laverde, an exciting 189cm midfielder who can play nearly anywhere. Another area the Bombers have struggled with in recent times is looking for a lead-up half-forward, and Kyle Langford fills that gap. He's very good in the air, and has a great tank.

FREMANTLE
Draft selections: 13, 34, 54, 72
What we said before the draft: They might be in a great spot to have a tall slip to them.
What happened? They were in a great spot for the tall, and three were there to get, but Lachie Weller was too and they clearly viewed him the better player ahead of the likes of Sam Durdin, Jake Lever and Hugh Goddard. The classy midfielder will be a nice addition for the Dockers and is a really good player, but it was a little bit surprising the Dockers didn't grab a tall later in the draft. Big-bodied midfielder Connor Blakely joined Weller, and then there was Ed Langdon, a light-bodied midfielder who can run all day long. Their final selection was 179cm forward Josh Deluca-Cardillo.

GEELONG
Draft selections: 10, 47, 55, 60, 71 (promoted Mark Blicavs)
What we said before the draft: Having lost some speedy types through the trade period, securing a player with pace would be high on the to-do list. A key defender might be possible too.
What happened? The Cats pulled the late surprise, with Nakia Cockatoo making his way to the Gold Coast on Wednesday night for the draft. The explosive and powerful indigenous midfielder from Darwin only played one game this year through injury (how high would he have gone had he played a full season?), and has the speed to light up games. We thought the Cats could go for a tall at some stage, but they instead went with inside midfielder Dean Gore, and two more speedy half-forward/midfielders in Cory Gregson and Jordan Cunico.

GOLD COAST
Draft selections: 8, 15, 29, 66 (promoted Andrew Boston), 90 (promoted Josh Hall).
What we said before the draft: A lock-down small defender would be handy, but there's not much the Suns are desperate for. Can afford to pick the best available.
What happened? Went with that policy as we suggested, with ruckman Peter Wright too good to pass up at pick eight, despite their log of talls. Jarrod Garlett was long-linked to the club and will provide great run and dash, while Touk Miller would be expecting to play a fair bit of footy next year. He's got a bit of Lewis Taylor's style in him: he's small, but he makes an impact, and he can tackle and add defensive pressure.

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
Draft selections: 4, 6, 7, 23, 24 (academy selection Jack Steele) 80, 96 (academy selection Jeremy Finlayson)
What we said before the draft: A dose of brilliance could be the only thing the Giants are missing in their squad. Could do with some tall depth after off-season departures.
What happened? The club ticked the brilliance box with its first selection in Jarrod Pickett, a speedy, electrifying half-forward who can win games off his own boot. There isn't a player quite like him at the Giants, so there's a spot there for him if he can continue to improve. Paul Ahern is in the same box, and is another classy indigenous recruit, while the Giants also went tall with Caleb Marchbank as one of their three top-10 selections. Pulled the shock of the draft by taking Pat McKenna with selection No.23, having watched him at Gisborne Football Club in Victoria this year.

HAWTHORN
Draft selections: 31, 49, 50, 68, (promoted rookie Dallas Willsmore), 77 (promoted rookie Zac Webster).
What we said before the draft: A tall forward would be ideal, but is unlikely where the Hawks enter the draft. The 'best available' card works here for the Hawks, particularly with such a commanding list already.
What happened? They added Dan Howe with their first selection at No.31, while midfielder Teia Miles grew on a lot of clubs later in the draft. The Hawks clearly thought they needed another young ruckman after the off-season departure of Luke Lowden, so grabbed Marc Pittonet. He was the first pure ruck chosen at the draft.

MELBOURNE
Draft selections: 2, 3, 40, 42 (father-son selection Billy Stretch), 53, 83 (promoted Neville Jetta)
What we said before the draft: Paul Roos has spoken about the club needing to beef up its midfield. Another tall defender would also be a nice addition if possible.
What happened? Picked the two best midfielders available, so can go home very, very content. The Dees are huge winners in this draft, and the club will already be brimming with excitement at unleashing Christian Petracca and Angus Brayshaw in its midfield. Billy Stretch was a father-son bargain and has already started training at the club, while Stretch's close mate Alex Neal-Bullen was a surprise to be available at pick 40. He's another dependable midfielder, meaning the Dees really stocked up in that department. It also landed key back Oscar McDonald at No.53, a key defender who will line up alongside brother Tom at the dees.

NORTH MELBOURNE
Draft selections: 15, 25, 36, 56 (promoted Joel Tippett), 72 (promoted Kayne Turner).
What we said before the draft: The club will likely target a key defender at some stage of the draft, with outside class also on the agenda.
What happened? The Roos were very quick to read out Sam Durdin's name at pick 16, for he was the type of player they would have been hoping would fall through to them. The South Australian is better placed as a key defender, but at 197cm can also push forward. In the end, the Roos went for tall defenders with all three of their picks, grabbing Daniel Nielson at No.25 and Ed Vickers-Willis at No.36. Although they didn't go for a midfielder at any stage with their three selections, the three talls will shore up that area of the ground for some time.

PORT ADELAIDE
Draft selections: 57, 75, 84, 93, 100 (promoted Kane Mitchell)
What we said before the draft: Have no pressing needs for anything in particular, but perhaps another young ruckman could be on the agenda if available.
What happened? Geoff Parker and his recruiting team obviously identified young key position players as a priority, because the Power's four picks were all 188cm and above. Dougal Howard and Logan Austin came out of the GWS Academy, while Billy Frampton was the ruckman they secured at pick 84.

RICHMOND
Draft selections: 12, 33, 52, 70, 88 (promoted Anthony Miles)
What we said before the draft: It's a good chance for the Tigers to bring more skill to their midfield.
What happened? As expected they picked classy midfielder Corey Ellis at pick 12, and he's one of the better users of the ball in the draft pool. Don't be surprised to see him to settle in fine and look right at home. While Ellis isn't super quick, the Tigers' next four selections all bring great speed to the club's list. Connor Menadue, Nathan Drummond and Daniel Butler are quick and get the ball going, while power forward Reece McKenzie is also an extremely talented athlete who had a good year in the TAC Cup. He'll be given time to work on his game.

ST KILDA
Draft selections: 1, 21, 22, 41, 75 (promoted Darren Minchington), 86 (promoted Cameron Shenton), 95 (promoted Eli Templeton), 102 (promoted Mav Weller)
What we said before the draft: They have to make all three top-25 picks winners. A tall forward and more midfield depth would be the ideal mix.
What happened? They went for the big and strong power forward at No.1 in Paddy McCartin, and it was a fair and logical decision ahead of Christian Petracca, the other main contender. Key forwards are too hard to find and too expensive to lure (usually), and they have selected a very loyal and popular one. The Saints would have been rapt to add a key defender with its next pick in Hugh Goddard, while Daniel McKenzie is a flanker who can jump and provide rebound. Having lost a number of small forward types in recent seasons, Jack Lonie was another smart pick. A successful night for the Saints and they added talent to each line on the ground.






SYDNEY SWANS
Draft selections: 18 (academy selection Isaac Heeney), 37, 38 (academy selection Jack Hiscox), 76 (academy selection Abe Davis), 94 (promoted Xavier Richards), 112 (promoted Jake Lloyd), 130 (promoted Daniel Robinson)
What we said before the draft: The Swans covered most bases with the academy selections in October, where they picked up two midfielders and a mobile defender. The search for a key defender might need to wait until the rookie draft.
What happened? The Swans' only live selection was James Rose, a half-forward from Sturt who has some spark. The club's real present was unwrapped last month when midfielder Isaac Heeney officially joined the Swans, and he is close to the best midfielder in the draft pool. To get him at pick No.18 made the Swans winners no matter what happened later on.

WEST COAST
Draft selections: 11, 32, 51, 69, 87 (father-son selection Alec Waterman), 105 (promoted Callum Sinclair).
What we said before the draft: The Eagles need midfield depth and class and can address that early if the right player is there.
What happened? Went for a very safe bet with Liam Duggan at pick 11, and will be rapt he got through to their pick. He'll bring class and intelligence and is just a really good, rounded player. The next pick for the Eagles could be a little like Jack Darling all over again. Tom Lamb will add to their midfield group, and will love the wide, open spaces of Patersons Stadium where he can use his athleticism and endurance. Damien Cavka is in the same boat, and he was selected at No.66, while Jackson Nelson can play in the midfield, too. The Eagles will welcome five players who can all add something a bit different to their on-ball division.

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Draft selections: 26, 27, 39, 45, 46, 62 (father-son selection Zaine Cordy), 82 (promoted Jack Redpath), 100 (promoted Lin Jong).
What we said before the draft: Outside run and speed and perhaps another half-back could be priority.
What happened? The Dogs went surprisingly small at the draft, with an average height of 179cm for their five live selections. That's not to say they went wrong – but just to point out that the club clearly thought it needed more ground-level players. Small forwards Toby McLean, Declan Hamilton, Bailey Dale and Caleb Daniel should add some presence near goal, while Lukas Webb's lovely left-foot kicking will see him develop into a role off half-back. Although we thought they might grab another tall defender, they had already selected Zaine Cordy as a father-son pick and signed delisted Cat Joel Hamling, so had that area covered.

The views in this article are those of the author and not necessarily those of the AFL or its clubs
 

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Wells could well pick a KPP though. Definitely need a key defender and if someone like Durdin slides to us then we would be mad to pass him up.
Forgot that I called this! :D Wells brought into the hype that is Cockatoo. And you were right that Durdin did slide, past Geelong's original pick too. Two outside mids, 1 inside mid and a forward/mid so it's clear where Geelong rated their most obvioust list weakness

I think Gore will be cheap and a chance to play, competing for a spot with the likes of Jansen, Lang and Bates.
 
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If elevated to the senior list, strong consideration should be given to Aaron Vandenberg (Melb) who finished runner up in the NEAFL MVP this year.

An inside mid, he averaged 32 disposals, 6.2 tackles, 8.1 clearances and 6.3 inside 50s over 18 games.

22yo, 188cm, 90kg and ready to play.
 
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If elevated to the senior list, strong consideration should be given to Aaron Vandenberg (Melb) who finished runner up in the NEAFL MVP this year.

An inside mid, he averaged 32 disposals, 6.2 tackles, 8.1 clearances and 6.3 inside 50s over 18 games.

22yo, 188cm, 90kg and ready to play.
Yep, Vandenberg had 56 disposals one game. Reminiscent of Tom Mitchell's numbers in the NEAFL. Would have to be strongly considered if named round 1. Just have to wait and see who Melbourne is going to give games to first out of Petracca, Brayshaw, Newton and Vandenberg.
 
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The sports reporter at the Canberra Times reported the opposition coach as saying they had Vandenberg down for 56, but made it clear that it wasn't an official tally. The Age syndicated the Canberra Times copy.

The official stats have him down for 43.
 
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The sports reporter at the Canberra Times reported the opposition coach as saying they had Vandenberg down for 56, but made it clear that it wasn't an official tally. The Age syndicated the Canberra Times copy.

The official stats have him down for 43.
Well there you go, thanks for making that clearer!
 
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