2015 SC POD's & potential Cash Cow Selections
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Just because he spiked last year and before that he was fairly mediocre. You could argue that as GWS mature and win more often their slice of the sc pie, and Wards average, may increase. However, the younger fleet of mids like Greene, Shiel, Treloar have plenty more upside IMO. Just a big price to pay for a guy when he's had one decent year and blokes like Sloane, Danger and Cotchin are in that range or cheaper. Much more proven commodities.
I agree it's a speculative investment. It's easy to get seduced by Ablett's and Pendlebury's but it's very hard for a teams no.1 mid to stay above 110. It's possible that Sloane, Danger and Cotchin have all had a spike year. I guess by picking a no.1 mid who's priced to average 105 he is unlikely to drop further so less risk.
I won't be picking Ward but I do think he can maintain his average. I think he had a good year but wouldn't say that he had a great year and therefore I think he can improve. His scores weren't affected by Mumford not playing or the other mids and he was already the number 1 mid so he wasn't hiding behind a team mate like Murphy behind Judd, Liberatore behind Griffen, Jack Steven behind Dal Santo. He is an upgrade target for me but I wouldn't be surprised if he stays out of reach.
I won't be picking Ward but I do think he can maintain his average. I think he had a good year but wouldn't say that he had a great year and therefore I think he can improve. His scores weren't affected by Mumford not playing or the other mids and he was already the number 1 mid so he wasn't hiding behind a team mate like Murphy behind Judd, Liberatore behind Griffen, Jack Steven behind Dal Santo. He is an upgrade target for me but I wouldn't be surprised if he stays out of reach.
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I'd love to start both these blokes this year as they have room to move with their time on ground and their scoring per time on ground is already pretty good. But Ollie Wines average against his first 5 opponents from this year was only 94 and O'Meara has missed a lot of preseason already with his knees. Just bad timing for me but they both look like future locks. M5 for me will depend on how many cheap rookies are playing round 1. I've got a list of candidates depending on how much money is available and which other lines I need to spend money on. At the moment it is:
JPK
Barlow
Boak
Griffen
Neale
Caddy.
My preference is for a keeper, I don't think the bottom 4 are keepers, but they might just fill a gap with better scoring and job security than a rookie.
JPK
Barlow
Boak
Griffen
Neale
Caddy.
My preference is for a keeper, I don't think the bottom 4 are keepers, but they might just fill a gap with better scoring and job security than a rookie.
Well said mate.
To me, the only time I won't look for value first is when considering the 2 super premiums to utilise for vc/c loopholing purposes. It has been shown over the years that aside from GAJ, Pendlebury and Selwood that players who average 110+ one season almost universally have a downward correction the following season. For that reason, I cannot buy into Ward at the start. I think it is more likely that he averages 105 for next season than 119 and so I a prepared to sit on the fence and see how he goes. The same applies for Rocky and Fyfe, both superb players but history says both are likely to drop their averages this year than to hold or better them. The only reason I would consider them is if I sense GAJ or Pendlebury is vulnerable as then value becomes secondary to them being #1/#2 scorers in the comp for loopholing. Since Ward is highly unlikely to be top 2 next year I need to see the value and to me I would rather pass than commit.
To me, the only time I won't look for value first is when considering the 2 super premiums to utilise for vc/c loopholing purposes. It has been shown over the years that aside from GAJ, Pendlebury and Selwood that players who average 110+ one season almost universally have a downward correction the following season. For that reason, I cannot buy into Ward at the start. I think it is more likely that he averages 105 for next season than 119 and so I a prepared to sit on the fence and see how he goes. The same applies for Rocky and Fyfe, both superb players but history says both are likely to drop their averages this year than to hold or better them. The only reason I would consider them is if I sense GAJ or Pendlebury is vulnerable as then value becomes secondary to them being #1/#2 scorers in the comp for loopholing. Since Ward is highly unlikely to be top 2 next year I need to see the value and to me I would rather pass than commit.
I love watching Fyfe play and I think he can be the best impact player in the AFL (might be already) but I don't think he will reach the supercoach heights of Gaz. Different type of player and he has to share the midfield with too many others at the moment. He can win games and have some big scores but he doesn't get enough possessions to consistently post big scores. When I go to a Fremantle game Ross likes to have a loose player across the half back line at centre bounces and it will be a different player each time. Mundy, Mzungu, Pearce, Hill, Fyfe etc. Good coaching but like Alastair Clarkson at Hawthorn, not much good for us supercoachers.
I think Fyfe is overpriced and he will be an upgrade target for me. Don't let your man crush ruin your supercoach!!
I think Fyfe is overpriced and he will be an upgrade target for me. Don't let your man crush ruin your supercoach!!
I love watching Fyfe play and I think he can be the best impact player in the AFL (might be already) but I don't think he will reach the supercoach heights of Gaz. Different type of player and he has to share the midfield with too many others at the moment. He can win games and have some big scores but he doesn't get enough possessions to consistently post big scores. When I go to a Fremantle game Ross likes to have a loose player across the half back line at centre bounces and it will be a different player each time. Mundy, Mzungu, Pearce, Hill, Fyfe etc. Good coaching but like Alastair Clarkson at Hawthorn, not much good for us supercoachers.
I think Fyfe is overpriced and he will be an upgrade target for me. Don't let your man crush ruin your supercoach!!
I think Fyfe is overpriced and he will be an upgrade target for me. Don't let your man crush ruin your supercoach!!