Fixture VC and emergency Donut Analysis

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I have started analysing the schedule of the draw, in Excel of course! The rational is to look for which team one should be selecting a floating donut from. Often many use their R4 for this purpose with Max King being a popular choice last year.

For each round I allocate each team a number based on the timing of their game.
So teams in the first game get 1, second game 2, then 3 ,4 etc...
Further if games overlap I break it down to the starting time and how much of the other games has been played. So if two games start at the same time on Saturday night they are both generally allocated 5 even though they are games 5 and 6. I get even more pedantic in that I break it down to haves, quarters and eighths. For example the Sunday twilight game often starts around half time of the 3:20pm game so it is allocated as game 8.5 instead of 9. Another example is often on Saturday day games or night games one match starts 20 to 25 minutes later than the other so I give the later starting game the value of 2.125 or 5.125. (PS I don't care if one disagrees on what the exact values should be, I do this primarily for my own use!)

(I will add a table here soon to visualise it better)



The following table shows the average value for teams over the season. (Note this is round 1-10, 14-22, I don't count the bye rounds as one can use any bye player as a donut and there is no schedule yet for round 23).

Fremantle 6.64
WCE 5.96
Brisbane 5.89
St Kilda 5.42
Melbourne 5.11
WB 5.08
Port Adelaide 5.07
North 5.03
Essendon 4.70
Geelong 4.62
Adelaide 4.58
Hawthorn 4.42
Sydney 4.32
GWS 4.17
Gold Coast 4.10
Richmond 3.61
Collingwood 3.38
Carlton 3.04

Hence Fremantle are the best option to pick a floating donut player from. When you look at their draw you will notice they play the first game in round 10, a Saturday twilight game in round 17 but for the rest of the relevant parts of the season they are either one of the Saturday night or Sunday games.

Now I have also taken a snapshot at round 10 as some may want to just look at this up to the bye rounds with the rationale that they will be carrying enough injured players to act as donuts for the rest of the season!

Brisbane 6.49
Port Adelaide 6.26
Fremantle 6.00
WCE 5.65
North 5.56
Hawthorn 5.40
Geelong 5.30
WB 4.85
Essendon 4.69
Adelaide 4.53
St Kilda 4.24
Collingwood 4.23
Melbourne 4.10
Gold Coast 4.09
GWS 4.09
Sydney 3.93
Richmond 3.53
Carlton 2.29

Hence if you only care about the first ten rounds then Brisbane is your team!

I will add more posts later looking closer at other items of analysis when I get to it.

(PS - for those looking right now I work on trying to format the post better, just having a little trouble copying in tables!)
 
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Fantastic stuff Phil, much appreciated and will be referred to a lot no doubt.
 
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Great work Phil, a young freo ruck/fwd by the name of Apeness (if still dpp) will be a good fit im thinking. what ya reckon ?
 

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Great stuff Phil..
Very useful info.. I really like Brisbane's draw in retaliation to there supercoach potential this year..get on early :cool:
 

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The Gary Ablett VC analysis!


Let's say you belong in the must have Gary Ablett camp especially to make use of him as a C and VC option. Perhaps you may want to try to maximise the amount of times you can use Ablett as the VC option. Reason being that if you have a different VC that scores 130 you may become nervous that Ablett will bang out a 180. Effectively you are making Ablett a perma captain by default through the VC loophole with the safety of being able switch him out if he has a shocker.

So is there a team or combination of teams you can select a floating donut (plus a captain option) from that often plays after Ablett has played?

Firstly it should be observed that the Suns play in the last game in the multi bye Round 13 so there is no choice but to have him as a C option with a different VC that week.

Secondly in Round 3 the Suns play in the second last game of the round with the last game of WCE v Freo game starting essentially at half time in the Suns game. So if you have a Freo or WCE floating donut and a reasonable captain option you can still see half a game of Ablett if you so wish, essentially getting a first half injury (or really crap game) insurance for him.

Fremantle is the magic team! Aside from the two rounds I have mentioned above Fremantle play after the Suns in every other game except for Round 10. Hence if you have Freo floating donut and lets say Nat Fyfe you can VC Ablett almost every week. Further if you also in round 10 happen to have an injured/suspended/dropped player from Ess, Gee, Port, WB, GWS, Bri, Nth, WCE, Saints, Hawks, Melb or Coll you can VC Ablett every week bar the round 13 as mentioned.

The only other team beside from Freo that comes remotely close are the Eagles who also play in that R3 game with Freo so you get half a game, miss the R13 obviously and then have another 4 games that miss. If you combined two players from different clubs, you can add a WCE player of a player from either one player from Bris, Port or WB you can get the same deal that Freo provides by itself, in that you get half the R3 game, miss the R13 game and one other round.

Hence if you would like to go down a regular path of having a look at Ablett's VC score first your best option is to have a Freo floating donut combined with Nat Fyfe or Barlow, Sandi etc. PS You don't necessarily have to have a Freo C option but this will best ensure you have a decent C to choose from if Ablett does have a shocker.

PS It should also be noted that this all assumes that Ablett plays every game and that the floating donut you pick misses every game etc.
 
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Good analysis.

I'm a perma C/VC Pendles/Ablett kind of guy. Based on my predictions, both will average 125 ppg. If you are similar to me then you'd be looking at a Brisbane DPP rookie to loophole with. I think up until the byes Brisbane play after one or both of the Suns and Pies. Should be able to loophole every week before the byes, except for round 8 when they play each other.

Brisbane also have the round 11 bye. This is the easiest round to avoid a donut. It also means that if you are wanting to avoid a donut in a particular round of the byes, this is a great time to trade out this perma donut to a playing rookie that could contribute.
 
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Looking back over this, maybe Mason Cox isn't the best option for that R3 DPP position a lot of people are going to have. Tom Read and Reilly O'Brien seem like much better options in terms of loopholing opportunities.
 
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Looking back over this, maybe Mason Cox isn't the best option for that R3 DPP position a lot of people are going to have. Tom Read and Reilly O'Brien seem like much better options in terms of loopholing opportunities.
Cox went into my team and then quickly back out as I realised he would be no good loopholing with Pendles...

ASmith is my current choice (thanks Philzsay!) :)
 

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Great work lads, im expecting the masses to have big Cox as their R3 so hopefully a few failed loopholes for them.
 
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Great work lads, im expecting the masses to have big Cox as their R3 so hopefully a few failed loopholes for them.
My above post is now a lie - ASmith was in as a donut for about 15 mins and then was dropped for Nankervis (all Aust last year, surely he is due for game time in the seniors?!). I have a M/F FD from the Saints in my mids now - thanks to Philzsay's analysis :)
 

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Aside from a RUC/FWD floating donut, has anybody considered going in with two floating donuts?

I am giving some serious consideration to a DEF/MID floating donut.
 

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Aside from a RUC/FWD floating donut, has anybody considered going in with two floating donuts?

I am giving some serious consideration to a DEF/MID floating donut.
I did put some thought into having my FD at D8/M11 but not both.

I think it might be a matter of not having a choice to be honest. I don't think we're gonna get as many midfield rookies this year (based off nothing except gut feel).
 
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Aside from a RUC/FWD floating donut, has anybody considered going in with two floating donuts?

I am giving some serious consideration to a DEF/MID floating donut.
For me it is about playing rookies. I would rather have a floating donut I've hand selected than a rookie who plays 1 game and then sits there twiddling his thumbs. But my preference is for a cash cow with regular game time.
 
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