2015: Rate My Team - Part II (SC Gold Team Picker Edition)

[bloke]

Alright I've had another go. Here it is.

DEF: K Simpson, L Hodge, J Newnes, C Pearce, B Waters, B Whitecross (M Karpany, D Voijo-Rainbow)
MID: G Ablett, T Rockliff, S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, A Swallow, T Mitchell, N Cockatoo, B Boekhorst (I Heeney, J Lavarde, D McKenzie)
RUC: M Kreuzer, M Leuenburger (S Durdin)
FWD: B Deledio, B Goddard, D Swan, T Membrey, A Saad, M Clarke (H Goddard, J Hogan)

So this structure heavily relies on there being higher quality forward rookies than midfield rookies. Trading Petracca down to Saad allows me to swap out Griffen for Pendlebury which I like. I've still got problems in defence if Whitecross doesn't play but I've got the option of starting Goddard there instead and finding another fwd or mid rookie to replace him. I also like that I've got lots of dpp options with this setup. Rucks still suck though

 

[FirstTimer]

Alright I've had another go. Here it is.

DEF: K Simpson, L Hodge, J Newnes, C Pearce, B Waters, B Whitecross (M Karpany, D Voijo-Rainbow)
MID: G Ablett, T Rockliff, S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, A Swallow, T Mitchell, N Cockatoo, B Boekhorst (I Heeney, J Lavarde, D McKenzie)
RUC: M Kreuzer, M Leuenburger (S Durdin)
FWD: B Deledio, B Goddard, D Swan, T Membrey, A Saad, M Clarke (H Goddard, J Hogan)

So this structure heavily relies on there being higher quality forward rookies than midfield rookies. Trading Petracca down to Saad allows me to swap out Griffen for Pendlebury which I like. I've still got problems in defence if Whitecross doesn't play but I've got the option of starting Goddard there instead and finding another fwd or mid rookie to replace him. I also like that I've got lots of dpp options with this setup. Rucks still suck though

Hi Bloke,
IMO a lot of the forward rookies are also mids , so you get both lines covered if you get my drift , my mate at the Hawks plus all the Hawks experts here will tell you Hodge will be monitored and will play around 16-17 games and finals to keep him fresh , i would change Kreuzer to Goldy , put Mitchell forward re access the backs and forwards.
Whitecross will play the question is how many ?? , ditch Saad and put in say a lambert or Vanderberg

 

[bloke]

Hi Bloke,
IMO a lot of the forward rookies are also mids , so you get both lines covered if you get my drift , my mate at the Hawks plus all the Hawks experts here will tell you Hodge will be monitored and will play around 16-17 games and finals to keep him fresh , i would change Kreuzer to Goldy , put Mitchell forward re access the backs and forwards.
Whitecross will play the question is how many ?? , ditch Saad and put in say a lambert or Vanderberg

Well of my forward rookies none are dpp mids, hence why Mitchell is in the kids and not a rookie.

As for the link between fwds and def the only reason it's set out like this is Karpany and Goddard can be swapped but I suppose that's not important this early on.

Why the hate for Saad? I figured he was pretty close to being a lock in the Saints 22?

 

[Braider]

Hi Bloke.... ditch Saad and put in say a lambert or Vanderberg

....Why the hate for Saad? I figured he was pretty close to being a lock in the Saints 22?

The way I see it, Saad will be elevated off the rookie list, and he will play Rnd1.

I think he'll SC score ok, but not neccesarily better than any other forward rookies.
Saad's price is $151,100 and most people aren't likely to get him, having already spent $155,200 on Mitch Clark and probably $130,400 on Jesse Hogan.

I'm struggling to fit him in my forward line, considering the cheaper FWD and FWD/MID rookie options we may potentially have with Lambert, Krakoeur, Steele, Lonie, Daniel, (Goddard), Laverde...

Also, if a FWD/MID has been selected in the midfield, the comparison of Saad's price has to be made with any cheaper MID rookie options as well.

 

[bloke]

The way I see it, Saad will be elevated off the rookie list, and he will play Rnd1.

I think he'll SC score ok, but not neccesarily better than any other forward rookies.
Saad's price is $151,100 and most people aren't likely to get him, having already spent $155,200 on Mitch Clark and probably $130,400 on Jesse Hogan.

I'm struggling to fit him in my forward line, considering the cheaper FWD and FWD/MID rookie options we may potentially have with Lambert, Krakoeur, Steele, Lonie, Daniel, (Goddard), Laverde...

Also, if a FWD/MID has been selected in the midfield, the comparison has to be made with the cheaper MID rookie options as well.

I'll be honest I hadn't heard many of those names come up. Can't wait until Nab cup when this will be so much easier.

At least my premos are looking well set up. For now

 

[anfa18]

Ahmed Saad SC history from 29 games in 2012 and 2013.

100 or more - 1
80-99 - 7
61-79 - 3
60 or less - 18

Not sure if a year out of the game will help or hinder his scoring. I would expect him to get games with form dictating if he stays in the side. As braider said, there are plenty of rookie options (at the moment), Mitch Clark and Jesse Hogan probably provide better value.

 

[bloke]

Ahmed Saad SC history from 29 games in 2012 and 2013.

100 or more - 1
80-99 - 7
61-79 - 3
60 or less - 18

Not sure if a year out of the game will help or hinder his scoring. I would expect him to get games with form dictating if he stays in the side. As braider said, there are plenty of rookie options (at the moment), Mitch Clark and Jesse Hogan probably provide better value.

I had all three but it looks like I'll go back and swap things around again. Those stats aren't great for him. Maybe for now I'll just chuck a bottom pricer like Steele on the bench and deal with it come NAB cup

 

[Freo14]

Alright I've had another go. Here it is.

DEF: K Simpson, L Hodge, J Newnes, C Pearce, B Waters, B Whitecross (M Karpany, D Voijo-Rainbow)
MID: G Ablett, T Rockliff, S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, A Swallow, T Mitchell, N Cockatoo, B Boekhorst (I Heeney, J Lavarde, D McKenzie)
RUC: M Kreuzer, M Leuenburger (S Durdin)
FWD: B Deledio, B Goddard, D Swan, T Membrey, A Saad, M Clarke (H Goddard, J Hogan)

So this structure heavily relies on there being higher quality forward rookies than midfield rookies. Trading Petracca down to Saad allows me to swap out Griffen for Pendlebury which I like. I've still got problems in defence if Whitecross doesn't play but I've got the option of starting Goddard there instead and finding another fwd or mid rookie to replace him. I also like that I've got lots of dpp options with this setup. Rucks still suck though

My now redundant username and I are back for another year

bloke, what gives you confidence in Clancee's JS? Not only would he need to force out a 2014 regular, he'd also need to get the nod over two other former stalwarts who are hoping to rebound after injury affected campaigns, Ibbo and MattDB.

 

[bloke]

My now redundant username and I are back for another year

bloke, what gives you confidence in Clancee's JS? Not only would he need to force out a 2014 regular, he'd also need to get the nod over two other former stalwarts who are hoping to rebound after injury affected campaigns, Ibbo and MattDB.

Honestly I'm not sure what it is about Clancee that I like. I probably won't start him knowing he'll be sub often if he even plays, I just think the teams better with him in it. There's a few in that mid priced bracket that I like - Clancee, Ibbo, Seedsman, Sutcliffe (not sure why so many are Dockers ). If a rookie comes up even better.

For the record he's not in my most recent draft

 

[Hondo]

Alright I've had another go. Here it is.

DEF: K Simpson, L Hodge, J Newnes, C Pearce, B Waters, B Whitecross (M Karpany, D Voijo-Rainbow)
MID: G Ablett, T Rockliff, S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, A Swallow, T Mitchell, N Cockatoo, B Boekhorst (I Heeney, J Lavarde, D McKenzie)
RUC: M Kreuzer, M Leuenburger (S Durdin)
FWD: B Deledio, B Goddard, D Swan, T Membrey, A Saad, M Clarke (H Goddard, J Hogan)

So this structure heavily relies on there being higher quality forward rookies than midfield rookies. Trading Petracca down to Saad allows me to swap out Griffen for Pendlebury which I like. I've still got problems in defence if Whitecross doesn't play but I've got the option of starting Goddard there instead and finding another fwd or mid rookie to replace him. I also like that I've got lots of dpp options with this setup. Rucks still suck though

For the sake of the exercise I reckon you should try culling Swallow down to a rookie, put Titch forward and then see what you can do with the cash to either get NicNat in or get another forward premium in. It just looks too mid-heavy for a starting team and you'll be heavily reliant on Fyfe and Rocky starting like absolute jets. If they don't, or if say Jobe/Danger/JPK/Cotchin go close to them other teams will get ahead with better players elsewhere on their field.

As I have said to others, there are good premium mid options up to $150K less than Rocky who surely will not go 30ppg < Rocky ($150K/MN) freeing up even more cash to remove speculative picks.

The other suggestion is Newnes or Pearce down to a rookie.

It looks like you started your team with your dream midfield and no-one can blame you for that. It looks great! It's just whether there are too many value/speculative picks elsewhere to drag down the advantage of the gun midfield.

 

[bloke]

For the sake of the exercise I reckon you should try culling Swallow down to a rookie, put Titch forward and then see what you can do with the cash to either get NicNat in or get another forward premium in. It just looks too mid-heavy for a starting team and you'll be heavily reliant on Fyfe and Rocky starting like absolute jets. If they don't, or if say Jobe/Danger/JPK/Cotchin go close to them other teams will get ahead with better players elsewhere on their field.

As I have said to others, there are good premium mid options up to $150K less than Rocky who surely will not go 30ppg < Rocky ($150K/MN) freeing up even more cash to remove speculative picks.

The other suggestion is Newnes or Pearce down to a rookie.

It looks like you started your team with your dream midfield and no-one can blame you for that. It looks great! It's just whether there are too many value/speculative picks elsewhere to drag down the advantage of the gun midfield.

Yeah I get your point. The only reason my midfield is so heavily loaded is because I'm not keen on the rookies at this point. Of course it'll change once NAB Cup starts. This team was pretty experimental and I probably won't run with it. Even since yesterday it's changed quite a bit.

And yeah the midfield is beautiful

 

[Shaahorn]

Def: Shaw, Rampe, Waters, Holman, Johnson, Edwards, Marsh, McKenzie.
Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Selwood, Greene, Wines, Vandenberg, Freeman, Waterman, Krakouer, Lambert.
Ruc: Naitanui, Griffin, Nankervis.
Fwd: Gray, Goddard, Bennell, Swan, Mitchell, Clark, Hogan, Harper.

Experimenting with different line-ups early. This one is weak backs and rucks but strong mids and forwards.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Def: Shaw, Rampe, Waters, Holman, Johnson, Edwards, Marsh, McKenzie.
Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Selwood, Greene, Wines, Vandenberg, Freeman, Waterman, Krakouer, Lambert.
Ruc: Naitanui, Griffin, Nankervis.
Fwd: Gray, Goddard, Bennell, Swan, Mitchell, Clark, Hogan, Harper.

Experimenting with different line-ups early. This one is weak backs and rucks but strong mids and forwards.

Not a huge fan of this team in all honesty mate.

DEF: I think your defence is way too weak. My thoughts are that the defence rookies are going to be the hardest to find so if we are going to be loading up anywhere, I think it should be in defence. Rampe at D2 is far too weak. He should be at D3 at the very least, preferably D4. I would upgrade 2 of your rookies to 2 premium defenders.

MID: I think you've gone in too strong here. 4 or 5 keepers is a good amount. Most of the decent rookies will be available in the midfield. I would downgrade 1 or 2 of your premiums to rookies.

RUC: Nic Nat is a lock but Griffen will not be number 1 ruck with Sandi and Clarke playing so I would look elsewhere for your R2. Kreuzer or Leuenberger look like great value pending NAB cup form.

FWD: Very strong here but I think you will need to find some cash to adjust the rest of your team so would think about bringing in a FWD/RUC link in case your rucks get injured which with all rucks is very likely. Maybe Bennell to Bellchambers?

 

[bloke]

Sorry for all the posts, but for the sake of closure, this is the team I've created with my own preferences as well as the advice of all the people on here.

DEF: K Simpson, H Shaw, M Hibberd, R Henderson, G Ibbotson, B Waters (H Goddard, M Karpany)
MID: G Ablett, N Fyfe, T Cotchin, M Murphy, A Swallow, B Boekhorst, N Cockatoo, I Heeney (J Larverde, R Atkins, D McKenzie)
RUC: N Naitanui, M Leuenburger (S Durdin)
FWD: B Deledio, B Goddard, D Swan, T Mitchell, M Clarke, J Hogan (C Daniel, J Steele)

I'll be honest, this is the best team I think I've made. Shaw, Henderson and Murphy are pretty speculative but hopefully they go alright.

 

[KLo30]

SuperCoach 2015: Al Paton reveals his first draft line-up

Al Paton News Corp Australia Network January 22, 2015 4:22PM

PREMIERSHIPS, they say, are won in defence. That will certainly be the case in SuperCoach this year.

With just 10 weeks until the ball is bounced in the first match of the 2015 AFL season, I decided to take the plunge and pick a 30-man SuperCoach squad that could take the field in Round 1.

PREMIERSHIPS, they say, are won in defence. That will certainly be the case in SuperCoach this year.

With just 10 weeks until the ball is bounced in the first match of the 2015 AFL season, I decided to take the plunge and pick a 30-man SuperCoach squad that could take the field in Round 1.

The midfield is stacked with scoring power, I’m happy with my rucks and some great value up forward means I can afford to pick three superstars and start three players valued under $200,000 on the field.

The pay-off is some extra money to spend in the backline. The only problem is there is no one to spend it on.

All our favourite defenders from last year — David Swallow, Pearce Hanley, Sam Mitchell, Jimmy Bartel — have lost their dual-position status.

That leaves us with one genuine premium, new Sun Nick Malceski, and a long list of good players you wouldn’t want to be relying on to bring you home with a massive score in the Sunday twilight game.

From Carlton’s Kade Simpson down, there are about 25 players who can be expected to score in the 85-95 point range most weeks. Which ones you choose will be the difference between glory and ignominy in SuperCoach this year.

For now I’ve picked Heath Shaw and Grant Birchall, who both represent pretty good value and can score 130-plus on a good day. Both are bound to throw in a few shockers over the season as well.

I’m hoping a couple of seriously injury-prone defenders in Beau Waters and Nathan Brown can stand up and fill a couple of spots down back, otherwise there will be more head-scratching decisions to make.

In the middle, Gary Ablett is first picked as always. As much as I love Tom Rockliff he can’t possibly improve on his immense 132 average from last year. Mr Reliable Scott Pendlebury is my loophole captain option while I’m hoping Jordan Lewis can continue from where he left off last year when he averaged 126 over the final 10 rounds. If he can, $588,200 is a bargain.

I think Dyson Heppell and Brad Crouch can take their games to another level (Tiger Brandon Ellis could fit in the same category) and be genuine premos by the end of the year, and I’m backing Jack Steven to return to his 110 average of 2013. He only has to get in the ballpark to be a good investment.

I hate spending money on rucks who inevitably make me regret the decision by about Round 3. Nic Naitanui is fighting fit and ready to cash in on the scoring tweak that rewards hitouts that go to a teammate. And he’s cheap. Tom Bellchambers is now Essendon’s No.1 ruck and, crucially, can swing into the forward line — as can my one ruck back-up, Magpie Mason Cox.

To take advantage of that I’ll need a ruck/forward in attack as well. The obvious candidate is Paddy Ryder but $543,400 is a lot ... see me in two and a bit months on that one.

DISCLAIMER: This squad will change a lot between now and Round 1 (but it will probably do better than my final line-up)

Al Paton is News Corp’s AFL digital editor and spends way more time on SuperCoach than he should. Follow him on Twitter @al_superfooty

 

[anfa18]

^^ I think it's a bit shambles of a side.

Nathan Brown in defence, why? Injury prone and has never been SC relevant... Lewis, Heppell, Crouch and Steven in the mids. Maybe 1 will average 110+ but the other 3 will need to be traded without making much cash. Bellchambers as R2, why? Pick Kreuzer/Leuenberger and if you want TBC put him in the forward line. "Tom Bellchambers is now Essendon&#8217;s No.1 ruck?" Has this been confirmed? I think it's just as likely Giles will be the Bombers number 1 ruck or they will share the ruck duties pretty much 50/50. Then he complains about the price of Ryder as a RUCK/FWD option, seriously put TBC forward you nong!! After all this he has 3 premiums up forward when the forward line is probably the best option to stack this year... SIGH!!

 

[Philzsay]

Probably not his real team but a team picked in 5 minutes with certain players which would allow him to more easily write an article fastly.

At least the team is not as bad as some of the shockers Kevin Sheedy picked in the early days of SC and it was almost like he picked the team to play in an actual game.

 

[anfa18]

Probably not his real team but a team picked in 5 minutes with certain players which would allow him to more easily write an article fastly.

At least the team is not as bad as some of the shockers Kevin Sheedy picked in the early days of SC and it was almost like he picked the team to play in an actual game.

Very true. These are the types of articles the masses follow, so i guess we should be grateful really.

 

[Jurn Stern]

^^ I think it's a bit shambles of a side.

Nathan Brown in defence, why? Injury prone and has never been SC relevant... Lewis, Heppell, Crouch and Steven in the mids. Maybe 1 will average 110+ but the other 3 will need to be traded without making much cash. Bellchambers as R2, why? Pick Kreuzer/Leuenberger and if you want TBC put him in the forward line. "Tom Bellchambers is now Essendon’s No.1 ruck?" Has this been confirmed? I think it's just as likely Giles will be the Bombers number 1 ruck or they will share the ruck duties pretty much 50/50. Then he complains about the price of the Ryder as a RUCK/FWD option, seriously put TBC forward you nong!! After all this he has 3 premiums up forward when the forward line is probably the best option to stack this year... SIGH!!

FADE IN: JURN STERN'S LIVING ROOM - AFTERNOON

JURN STERN sits on the couch, his gaze is fixed to his iPad. His fiance in the kitchen, soup is on the stove, it's BUBBLING away.

CAMERA DOLLIES UP to Jurn as he rises from his chair. He hasn't blinked once.


JURN
(towards the phone)
anfa18!
(no response; eyes track from iPad
as if looking up and over the
ocean; inspirational yelled)
We should not stop mass publication of such articles. It is an advantage to those that pay attention and use what is the GREATEST SUPERCOACH SITE IN THE WHOLE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JURN (V.O.)
(inner thoughts;
hears a crowd cheering)
Thank you, thank you.

FIANCE (O.S.)
(angry)
John! What on Earth is going on in there??!

JURN STERN smiles and waves to an imaginary crowd, before returning to his seat.

 

[Jurn Stern]

Very true. These are the types of articles the masses follow, so i guess we should be grateful really.

My post was written during this post. Glad you agree with me.