2015: Rate My Team - Part II (SC Gold Team Picker Edition)
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I wonder why the Sun doesn't employ someone who is half an expert to write each week or every second day as the situation arises. There are a few very good players here who would grab the opportunity. Write for the semi interested players to give for example a good cut out starting side. Eg: 'Your starting side must have 12 gold plated keepers.' Choose from....
Having said that, writing and giving informed but interesting advice is a skill.
No way I would bag Al Paton, well done I say. The rubbish that Sheedy and Leigh Matthews came up with in years past was just that..
Having said that, writing and giving informed but interesting advice is a skill.
No way I would bag Al Paton, well done I say. The rubbish that Sheedy and Leigh Matthews came up with in years past was just that..
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Been playing around a bit with structure, but this is my team at the moment. In 2013 (final position 1800ish) I started with 6 top shelf mids, and last year (30,000ish with my main league team) I only started with 4 and Daisy. I think having a few more high scoring mid premos is more important than other lines, especially if rookies allow. We seem to have a few borderline round 1 rookie selections in FWD and DEF, and if they are looking like being picked rd 1 I will be able to roll out with a team similar to this. here it is:
DEF: Hibberd, Hurn, Newnes, Waters, Goddard, McKenzie (Maynard, ****)
MID: Ablett, Fyfe, Pendles, J.Selwood, Ward, Dangerfield, Freeman, Heeney (Boekhorst, Vandenberg, Laverde)
RUC: Naitanui, Leuenberger (Read)
FWD: Deledio, B.Goddard, Martin, Salem, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Daniel)
10k left over
I have not included one D.Swan as I think a) his best football is likely behind him and b) he won't be used as the gut-running mid we know and love. However, if he is looking good and in the mids in the NAB challenge I will probably sneak him in, maybe at the expense of Martin.
DEF: Hibberd, Hurn, Newnes, Waters, Goddard, McKenzie (Maynard, ****)
MID: Ablett, Fyfe, Pendles, J.Selwood, Ward, Dangerfield, Freeman, Heeney (Boekhorst, Vandenberg, Laverde)
RUC: Naitanui, Leuenberger (Read)
FWD: Deledio, B.Goddard, Martin, Salem, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Daniel)
10k left over
I have not included one D.Swan as I think a) his best football is likely behind him and b) he won't be used as the gut-running mid we know and love. However, if he is looking good and in the mids in the NAB challenge I will probably sneak him in, maybe at the expense of Martin.
Can't really pick any hikes in it but I do think you've gone one too many premo mids. Swap one of them out for Cockatoo and probably upgrade either you forward line or defence. It looks a little bare at your bookends if you ask me, especially defence. Relying on too many rookies performing well early on
My latest team i've been working on for the past couple of days.
DEF: Hibberd, Hurn, Newnes, Docherty, Waters, Smith (Maynard, McKenzie)
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Murphy, Dangerfield, Wines, Heeney, Boekhorst, Anderson, (Freeman, Dumont, Krakouer)
RUCK: Naitanui, Leuenberger (Read)
FOR: Deledio, Goddard, Martin, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Lonie, Steele)
$142,000 cash remaining and Byes: 8-12-10
I'm pretty happy with most of the team.
DEF: Hibberd and Hurn are locked. Newnes and Docherty are currently wait and see how they go in the NAB challenge. Waters is locked as long as he plays NAB and is named round 1.
MID: Ablett and Pendlebury locked. Murphy, Dangerfield and Wines have good upside and can see all 3 averaging 110+. Slightly hesitant with Dangerfield though. Rookies all placeholders until Nab and round 1 teams named.
RUCK: Nic Nat locked. Leuenberger locked if fit and looks good in NAB challenge. Read R/F floating donut.
FOR: Deledio, Goddard and Martin all locked, can see all 3 averaging 100+. Swan and Clark are locked depending on NAB form and fitness. Having no R/F DPP is a little concerning but i just don't really like any of them in the long term for different reasons.
ROOKIES: All placeholders until NAB and round 1 teams.
Any opinions, ideas or anything to improve my team are most welcome.
DEF: Hibberd, Hurn, Newnes, Docherty, Waters, Smith (Maynard, McKenzie)
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Murphy, Dangerfield, Wines, Heeney, Boekhorst, Anderson, (Freeman, Dumont, Krakouer)
RUCK: Naitanui, Leuenberger (Read)
FOR: Deledio, Goddard, Martin, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Lonie, Steele)
$142,000 cash remaining and Byes: 8-12-10
I'm pretty happy with most of the team.
DEF: Hibberd and Hurn are locked. Newnes and Docherty are currently wait and see how they go in the NAB challenge. Waters is locked as long as he plays NAB and is named round 1.
MID: Ablett and Pendlebury locked. Murphy, Dangerfield and Wines have good upside and can see all 3 averaging 110+. Slightly hesitant with Dangerfield though. Rookies all placeholders until Nab and round 1 teams named.
RUCK: Nic Nat locked. Leuenberger locked if fit and looks good in NAB challenge. Read R/F floating donut.
FOR: Deledio, Goddard and Martin all locked, can see all 3 averaging 100+. Swan and Clark are locked depending on NAB form and fitness. Having no R/F DPP is a little concerning but i just don't really like any of them in the long term for different reasons.
ROOKIES: All placeholders until NAB and round 1 teams.
Any opinions, ideas or anything to improve my team are most welcome.
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alright ...
DEF- Simpson, Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Waters, Edwards (Rainbow,Goddard)
MID- Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Liberatore, Van Berlo, Cripps, Freeman, Boekhorst (Anderson,Atkins,Mckenzie)
RUCK- Goldstein, Naitanui (A.Smith- cheapest Bris ruck best for Cap loophole)
FOR- Deledio, Goddard, Swan, Mitchell, Clarke, Hogan (Karnezis,Lambert)
Removing rookies my bye structure is 4/6/5. Steering clear of the cheap ruck and also would rather trade premium ruck if needed rather than having someone I wouldn't normally pick in the forward line as cover. Have gone from 6-4 premium mids but feel comfortable with Cripps and VB playing each week early, as mentioned above Brisbane are the best team for Ablett/Pendles/Selwood loopholing so A.Smith on ruck bench (thanks Freo for your bye analasys in earlier thread)
DEF- Simpson, Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Waters, Edwards (Rainbow,Goddard)
MID- Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Liberatore, Van Berlo, Cripps, Freeman, Boekhorst (Anderson,Atkins,Mckenzie)
RUCK- Goldstein, Naitanui (A.Smith- cheapest Bris ruck best for Cap loophole)
FOR- Deledio, Goddard, Swan, Mitchell, Clarke, Hogan (Karnezis,Lambert)
Removing rookies my bye structure is 4/6/5. Steering clear of the cheap ruck and also would rather trade premium ruck if needed rather than having someone I wouldn't normally pick in the forward line as cover. Have gone from 6-4 premium mids but feel comfortable with Cripps and VB playing each week early, as mentioned above Brisbane are the best team for Ablett/Pendles/Selwood loopholing so A.Smith on ruck bench (thanks Freo for your bye analasys in earlier thread)
Looks pretty good to me! Rookies will obviously change but by having a few high priced ones in there you are covering for the changes without having to get rid of any premo's you are set on. Like the mix of out and out guns a few potential breakout candidates in Newnes and Mitchell. Like the look of Goldstein/NicNat rather than a mid priced ruck - I have toyed with that myself but would mean giving up a premo on another line. Can't bring myself to go in with less than 5 premium mids though!
here is my first draft for the year.....
Smith, Hibberd, Birchall, Ibbotson, Waters, Jake Kelly (needs to be upgraded) ( McKenzie, Viojo-Rainbow)
Ablett, Fyfe, Selwood, Heppell, Dangerfield, Cripps, Petracca, Heeney (Boekhurst, Freeman, Dumont)
Natanui, Kreuzer (M Cox)
Delidio, Goddard, Swan, Mitchell, Steele, Laverde (Daniel, Lambert)
In bold are the 5 biggest locks in my team this year. I chose the rookies not necessarily on who will def play but who I though would have the biggest scoring impact within my budget IF they play
here is my first draft for the year.....
Smith, Hibberd, Birchall, Ibbotson, Waters, Jake Kelly (needs to be upgraded) ( McKenzie, Viojo-Rainbow)
Ablett, Fyfe, Selwood, Heppell, Dangerfield, Cripps, Petracca, Heeney (Boekhurst, Freeman, Dumont)
Natanui, Kreuzer (M Cox)
Delidio, Goddard, Swan, Mitchell, Steele, Laverde (Daniel, Lambert)
In bold are the 5 biggest locks in my team this year. I chose the rookies not necessarily on who will def play but who I though would have the biggest scoring impact within my budget IF they play
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Yeah like that team a lot. Looks very much like my #1 team atm.
Don't disagree with any if those choices although personally I'm avoiding Dangerfield because of contract talks. But let's be honsry he's gone and I wouldn't be surprised if Adelaide play him more up forward to make the transition to being without him smoother ala b Franklin 2013.
My structure is literally identical but with an extra mid rookie and goldy/ Nic nat rucks.
Like seeing Heppell in there as he's looking lockish for myself.
Nice to see a team with the same thinking as me.
Don't disagree with any if those choices although personally I'm avoiding Dangerfield because of contract talks. But let's be honsry he's gone and I wouldn't be surprised if Adelaide play him more up forward to make the transition to being without him smoother ala b Franklin 2013.
My structure is literally identical but with an extra mid rookie and goldy/ Nic nat rucks.
Like seeing Heppell in there as he's looking lockish for myself.
Nice to see a team with the same thinking as me.
Thanks for the feedback! Re: Danger I may be delusional but I am not saying goodbye just yet!! 
All the (non trollish) gossip coming out of the cats/crows that I have picked up on is that he hasn't decided yet and will wait to see how the direction of the club is heading mid year. That said the contract talks will be there and they have impacted players differently over the years. I'm going to back him in to be more "Gaz" than "Cloke". He is underpriced at 570ish and has a huge ceiling which I like when picking any player. I really doubt the crows will play him out of position though if they do I might put a sneaky 10 on him for the coleman!
All the (non trollish) gossip coming out of the cats/crows that I have picked up on is that he hasn't decided yet and will wait to see how the direction of the club is heading mid year. That said the contract talks will be there and they have impacted players differently over the years. I'm going to back him in to be more "Gaz" than "Cloke". He is underpriced at 570ish and has a huge ceiling which I like when picking any player. I really doubt the crows will play him out of position though if they do I might put a sneaky 10 on him for the coleman!I've been wavering between 5 and 6 premo mids as well.
The deciding factor for me will be, which midfield rookies can justify an on-field position in my starting side.
Looking at the midfield rookies from last year, we had some experience, with M.Thomas (87 games), Tyson (13 games), Polec (16 games) and Ellis (80 games).
But more to the point, each of these players were at a new club, with a specific role to play mostly through the midfield (Ellis, half-back role).
All were worthy of on-field starting positions with their NAB Cup ave, mins, and ppg.
If any mid rookies this year in the preseason games can score something like Tyson and Polec did last year, they will be playing on-field.
Failing that, I'll compare what's left with what's on offer in the forward line and because we have some potential FWD/MID rookies playing Rnd1, can see the preference going to playing an extra rookie on-field in the forward line - and going with a 6th premo mid.
I wouldn't let those two ranking experiences influence you to the extent that you ignore where the rookies are. Otherwise you are picking your team based on a rule when I think it's key to follow the rookies.
I started 4 prem mids + Daisy last year and finished 737. I worked out that just skipping Stevie J at full price would have got me close or into the top 300. So it was an X v Y upgrade choice fail that hindered me not starting only 4 premium mids.
Remember Jay started NO premium mids one year and finished in the 700s from memory. It's not as big as deal as people think so long as you have your C-VC 1-2 sorted out.
Last year I was able to avoid having JKH or Impey on field in the early rounds and those extra points compensated for the one less mid.
Gotta follow the rookies I reckon ... If they present up forward then I may also go for 5-6 premium mids. If they present in the midfield I will pull back, it all depends.
I started 4 prem mids + Daisy last year and finished 737. I worked out that just skipping Stevie J at full price would have got me close or into the top 300. So it was an X v Y upgrade choice fail that hindered me not starting only 4 premium mids.
Remember Jay started NO premium mids one year and finished in the 700s from memory. It's not as big as deal as people think so long as you have your C-VC 1-2 sorted out.
Last year I was able to avoid having JKH or Impey on field in the early rounds and those extra points compensated for the one less mid.
Gotta follow the rookies I reckon ... If they present up forward then I may also go for 5-6 premium mids. If they present in the midfield I will pull back, it all depends.
Just had a bit of a play around with a team. Would love some thoughts.
DEF: H Shaw, M Hibberd, S Hurn, J Newnes, B Waters, M Fuller, J Hamling, $102,400 rookie
MID: S Pendlebury, J Selwood, B Goddard, T Cotchin, D Hannebery, N Van Berlo, B Newton, J Laverde, N Freeman, 2 x $102,400 rookies
RUC: N Naitanui, M Kruezer, M Cox
FWD: L Franklin, D Martin, D Swan, T Walker, T Bellchambers, M Clark, J Hogan, $102,400 rookie
$26,900 remaining.
I figure there are 14-15 keepers (fingers crossed), 3-4 mid pricers, and 12 rookies.
Bye structure for keepers is 3/7/4 so that might need a little tweaking but overall reasonably happy with initial team.
DEF: H Shaw, M Hibberd, S Hurn, J Newnes, B Waters, M Fuller, J Hamling, $102,400 rookie
MID: S Pendlebury, J Selwood, B Goddard, T Cotchin, D Hannebery, N Van Berlo, B Newton, J Laverde, N Freeman, 2 x $102,400 rookies
RUC: N Naitanui, M Kruezer, M Cox
FWD: L Franklin, D Martin, D Swan, T Walker, T Bellchambers, M Clark, J Hogan, $102,400 rookie
$26,900 remaining.
I figure there are 14-15 keepers (fingers crossed), 3-4 mid pricers, and 12 rookies.
Bye structure for keepers is 3/7/4 so that might need a little tweaking but overall reasonably happy with initial team.
