Opinion Questions For Rowsus
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Hi Rowsus,
Is running with a Gray/swan/Bellchambers forward line to risky for? There is good potential rookies there also as well as Bellchambers providing ruck cover (currently have maric and Nic Nat)
My defence is currently running with newnes @ d5, so i have a lot of cash there because the rookies look sketchy and I don't trust a lot of the mid pricers ie Macmillan Pearce etc.
Should I be looking to spend less cash in the back line to strengthen my forward line? Or start the season with as many top defenders as possible because of the lack of potential rookies? I'm running with 4 premo mids (unless Ablett is not named)
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Is running with a Gray/swan/Bellchambers forward line to risky for? There is good potential rookies there also as well as Bellchambers providing ruck cover (currently have maric and Nic Nat)
My defence is currently running with newnes @ d5, so i have a lot of cash there because the rookies look sketchy and I don't trust a lot of the mid pricers ie Macmillan Pearce etc.
Should I be looking to spend less cash in the back line to strengthen my forward line? Or start the season with as many top defenders as possible because of the lack of potential rookies? I'm running with 4 premo mids (unless Ablett is not named)
Thanks
Ben
Also, how many times did Griffen, Ward, Treloar and Greene got tagged last year?
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Ward had 2 tags and averaged 74 when tagged.
Treloar had 2 tags and averaged 81.
Greene had 1 tag and averaged 62.
A tag is a match up that lasted at least 70 minutes and not all match ups were with a lock down tagger.
Surprisingly this doesn't happen as much as I thought. Brent Harvey had 14, but if you took their defintion and applied it to say a key forward they would probably have 22 tags. So Harvey probably gets 14 because he plays forward a lot. But of the genuine midfielders Pendlebury and Murphy had the most "match ups" with 8.
Coaches seem to be a bit slow in adjusting their favourite player to tag despite the emergence of a damaging second player. i.e Boak had 6, Gray had 0. Murphy had 8, Gibbs had 3, Dangerfield had 6 Sloane had 3. Pendles had 8, Beams had 1.
Guys who are almost exclusively inside players seem to avoid the tag like, JPK, Priddis, Libba (only listed as having 1 tag) and D Swallow.
I think their tagging data is still in it's infancy compared to some of their other statistics.
They had an article in last years prospectus on tagging.
"Before we start we should acknowledge that Champion Data's records for match ups aren't perfect.
..........Future developments in video tracking of players and/or the improvement of existing GPS accuracy and reliability should bring a revolution in match-up data, but that is at least a few years away."
I think not having Crowley and McCaffer playing will have a big impact on the average of some our premiums.
what do you think of josh gibson??
and also which back rookies do you like?
i currently have oxley(due to being a good kick which they dont have many of)
and adam saad (good small accumulator in the back line which they dont have)
i also like mcintosh from richmond who is apparently more of a winger
thanks in advance for your reply
and also which back rookies do you like?
i currently have oxley(due to being a good kick which they dont have many of)
and adam saad (good small accumulator in the back line which they dont have)
i also like mcintosh from richmond who is apparently more of a winger
thanks in advance for your reply
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Thank you both - that's interesting. Through good luck or good management, I've never burned too many trades in the ruck, although the fact that rucks seldom play 22 games does make this a big risk.
I think your point about a failed M2 being able to serve as M8 is a good one. I do think some people rely too heavily on this in their starting sides (M8s are also plentiful, and relatively easy to pick up cheap through the season, but M2s much less so, so I want to lock mine in early assuming he's not too overpriced) ... But it's a fallback plan that doesn't exist in the rucks. Something for me to consider.
I've had Nic Nat and Leuey all pre-season, but if Leuey looks questionable come round one and Ablett misses, I would likely use the freed up cash from Ablett to go for Nic Nat and Goldy (who I would almost certainly pick if Leuey wasn't so cheap). Thanks for your thoughts.
I think your point about a failed M2 being able to serve as M8 is a good one. I do think some people rely too heavily on this in their starting sides (M8s are also plentiful, and relatively easy to pick up cheap through the season, but M2s much less so, so I want to lock mine in early assuming he's not too overpriced) ... But it's a fallback plan that doesn't exist in the rucks. Something for me to consider.
I've had Nic Nat and Leuey all pre-season, but if Leuey looks questionable come round one and Ablett misses, I would likely use the freed up cash from Ablett to go for Nic Nat and Goldy (who I would almost certainly pick if Leuey wasn't so cheap). Thanks for your thoughts.
Hi BHack87,
There is no problem with a 2-1-5 Fwd line, as long as you are happy your 5 Rookies should all have reasonable JS, make dollars, and you aren't missing any Mid Rookies you should have.
I am running a similar Def line this year, some might call it 5-0-3, others might call it 3-2-3, but I wouldn't worry about the amount of Cash you have spent there, unless you have the 4 most expensive Defs lined up with Newnes, that might be a bit wasteful, (only might be!).
If you are feeling a bit vulnerable about your Def line, there's nothing wrong with playing it safe there, and if you are confident in your Fwd Rookies, then by all means go skinny there. Remember, it's all about getting your Rookies right, they generate the Cash, that creates the improvement in your team. Let the structure end where it does, when you are happy and confident with your Rookie picks.
There is no problem with a 2-1-5 Fwd line, as long as you are happy your 5 Rookies should all have reasonable JS, make dollars, and you aren't missing any Mid Rookies you should have.
I am running a similar Def line this year, some might call it 5-0-3, others might call it 3-2-3, but I wouldn't worry about the amount of Cash you have spent there, unless you have the 4 most expensive Defs lined up with Newnes, that might be a bit wasteful, (only might be!).
If you are feeling a bit vulnerable about your Def line, there's nothing wrong with playing it safe there, and if you are confident in your Fwd Rookies, then by all means go skinny there. Remember, it's all about getting your Rookies right, they generate the Cash, that creates the improvement in your team. Let the structure end where it does, when you are happy and confident with your Rookie picks.
Hi again Mike, and Hi Aenimist,
I don't think we'll unearth another 2 Tyson/Polec types this season, but having said that, as long as you aren't compromising your other selections to fit these 2 or 3 $200k+ Rookies in, and you feel they're the best fit, then do it. We don't have to find 90-95/game players at that Price, 80-85 will still make them good picks.
I think he's possibly worth taking the risk on, as long as you are prepared for up and down scoring, and missed games. There's no doubt he can pump out some good scores, but he pumps out sub 60's too. A lot of his good scores are in big wins, which is sort of ok, because Hawthorn have plenty of those. My biggest problem with him is, in the last 9 seasons he has had only 3 seasons with more than 19 games, and 2 seasons with an average over 80! Still, I'm pretty sure there might be 2 or 3 Defs that fill the top 8, that have records that might say they were a risk as well.
With 8 games to go in the NAB Cup we might still get 2 or 3 surprises with Def Rookies. The ones high on my list right now are: Saad, Oxley, Hamling, I want to add Edwards and Dalgliesh, but I'm waiting for ASADA to clarify their JS. I'm a little concerned with McIntosh. When you look at his VFL stats he didn't have many games last season that looked good SC points-wise, and that was at the lower level. I think he only hit 20 disposals once. Still he may have come on, and may be an option.
With 8 games to go in the NAB Cup we might still get 2 or 3 surprises with Def Rookies. The ones high on my list right now are: Saad, Oxley, Hamling, I want to add Edwards and Dalgliesh, but I'm waiting for ASADA to clarify their JS. I'm a little concerned with McIntosh. When you look at his VFL stats he didn't have many games last season that looked good SC points-wise, and that was at the lower level. I think he only hit 20 disposals once. Still he may have come on, and may be an option.
thanks for the reply much appreciated
reason why i asked about gibson was because as we have seen during the practise games he is playing more of an intercepting role with frawley in the team
but also we havnt seen birchall play yet do you think birchall could take some of the intercepting away from gibson?
or could birchall all play further up the ground and gibson continue intercepting?
reason why i asked about gibson was because as we have seen during the practise games he is playing more of an intercepting role with frawley in the team
but also we havnt seen birchall play yet do you think birchall could take some of the intercepting away from gibson?
or could birchall all play further up the ground and gibson continue intercepting?
Hey Rowsus,
From a few of your previous posts, you are obviously reasonably confident in Rockliff's ability to continue his run of form from the back end of 2013 and 2014 (as am I).
With the additions of Beams and Christensen, adding to Redden, Hanley, Rich, Zorko, how do you see the new-look Brisbane midfield affecting Rockliff's scoring output?
Keep up the great work.
From a few of your previous posts, you are obviously reasonably confident in Rockliff's ability to continue his run of form from the back end of 2013 and 2014 (as am I).
With the additions of Beams and Christensen, adding to Redden, Hanley, Rich, Zorko, how do you see the new-look Brisbane midfield affecting Rockliff's scoring output?
Keep up the great work.
Hey Halfy,
up until last night's game against GC, I was pretty confident he'd be at least a 118 player, and great for loopholing with Gaz (there's another problem!) in the Captaincy loophole. It's not so much his score last night that worries me, more his game, and the comments by some Brisbane commentators (expect to see him deep Fwd more this season). It has me a little shaky on him for the first time. Brisbane have great Mids, but a potential Fwd problem, and they've tried to use him as a solution before (in Voss' days). If left to his own devices, and to play like he did last season, then I still think he's a good pick. If he gets Leppa'ed, we might be in for some problems. My problem is, if Gaz is shakey, and Rocky is wobbly, who do we pick for our Captains? That's the biggest problem I'm working on right now, and Rocky will stay in my team until I sort that out. Then I will workout if I stick with him.
up until last night's game against GC, I was pretty confident he'd be at least a 118 player, and great for loopholing with Gaz (there's another problem!) in the Captaincy loophole. It's not so much his score last night that worries me, more his game, and the comments by some Brisbane commentators (expect to see him deep Fwd more this season). It has me a little shaky on him for the first time. Brisbane have great Mids, but a potential Fwd problem, and they've tried to use him as a solution before (in Voss' days). If left to his own devices, and to play like he did last season, then I still think he's a good pick. If he gets Leppa'ed, we might be in for some problems. My problem is, if Gaz is shakey, and Rocky is wobbly, who do we pick for our Captains? That's the biggest problem I'm working on right now, and Rocky will stay in my team until I sort that out. Then I will workout if I stick with him.
G'day Rowsus,
Have been reading the interesting comments regarding Rockliff and Ablett. Just wondering if yourself or anyone has thought about not starting either Ablett or Rocky.
Ablett looks like he will come back underdone and Rockliff looks like he will competing with Beams, Redden, Rich etc. for more of the ball this year.
In years gone by we have had a standout capt. choice in Ablett and last year Ablett/Rockliff. Could this be the end this year of a standout capt. that can pump out 150 -170 pt scores?
Do we need to look at a different strategy and ignore these two guys and put 5 other quality mids in that can rotate the captaincy? Out of Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Lewis, Beams etc. and accept that we are not gonna get those big scores week in week out. We could then rely on the score being evenly spread across the rest of the mids and team.
Just a thought anyway
Have been reading the interesting comments regarding Rockliff and Ablett. Just wondering if yourself or anyone has thought about not starting either Ablett or Rocky.
Ablett looks like he will come back underdone and Rockliff looks like he will competing with Beams, Redden, Rich etc. for more of the ball this year.
In years gone by we have had a standout capt. choice in Ablett and last year Ablett/Rockliff. Could this be the end this year of a standout capt. that can pump out 150 -170 pt scores?
Do we need to look at a different strategy and ignore these two guys and put 5 other quality mids in that can rotate the captaincy? Out of Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Lewis, Beams etc. and accept that we are not gonna get those big scores week in week out. We could then rely on the score being evenly spread across the rest of the mids and team.
Just a thought anyway
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Couldn't have explained my predicament with Rockcliff either. I'm kinda doubling up here posted this on the rocky thread but I'd like you opinion. Surely Brisbane wouldn't take their most consistent midfeilder (And possibly best) out of the mids. Redden , Aish, Christianson (injury cloud), Taylor, Rich, Robinson are all "good" (At best B/B+ players) but not A/A+ standard players as beams an Rockcliff are. Also with Beams likely to be heavily affected by a tag why would they take out their only known quantity out of the midfeild.
118?? Do you mean 128? Surely you wouldn't pay that much for a 118ppg player.
Do Lynch and Brown have any connection to coaching at Brisbane or is this simply an off the cuff comment they made after seeing him play down forward?? I didn't actually hear the context of the comments.
Finally , was Rocky played on the Mids in the other NAB matches??? Only briefly watched one of the and payed little attention to Rocky.
118?? Do you mean 128? Surely you wouldn't pay that much for a 118ppg player.
Do Lynch and Brown have any connection to coaching at Brisbane or is this simply an off the cuff comment they made after seeing him play down forward?? I didn't actually hear the context of the comments.
Finally , was Rocky played on the Mids in the other NAB matches??? Only briefly watched one of the and payed little attention to Rocky.
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