The KEY 2015 Supercoach Questions

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Carlton
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Never answered this before but now the season is underway had a read and post my thoughts now.

• What do you do with M11, do you use it to generate $$$ or as a NPR to loophole throughout the season?
There is a third option here....
To start with though my M11 is a DEF/MID. You can either view it as cash cow Adam Saad or loophole agent Corey Adamson. Having the link between defence and midfield was very handy last year and so saw no reason not to do it again. I also got a few other defenders with DEF/MID. If there was only 10 mid spots like last season sense I would still be doing that so the extra mid slot has really just meant for me taking a ruck bench spot away that originally was either being used as captain loophole like King last year or some ruck rookie that rarely makes a lot of cash. I left my options open how to utilise this new structure format by selecting a mid pricer Mark Blicavs in my starting team. The lack of info on new ruck scoring system made me feel Blicavs gave me peace of mind I would not overspend on ruck division. I was confident he was one ruck that coin spent on you were not overpaying on. He is not likely to be my second ruck forever but he left my options open which is what I wanted for this new game situation.


• In what capacity do you use R3? Purely as a cheap NPR with Ruc/Fwd DPP (would most likely lead to Ryder/Bellchamber etc in fwd line) or do you try and pick a playing ruck?
Given the reduction in ruck back ups there was no way I was willing to take the risk of having an R3 from start that had no cash making or playing capacity. As a result I picked Swan rookie ruck Naismith mainly because he was named in their 25 at start of season so it seemed he may possibly get a run at some stage. If he did not get picked least I know I will use him for loopholes when I can. Once I realized all normal rucks likely to be overpriced for 2015 I decided the payment for insurance of having a FWD/RUC as R3 that also commits you to also having to invest in another ruck/fwd losing value in forward line was not ideal for 2015. That is basically 4 rucks all overpriced in the squad of 30. I felt strongly paying high cost of insurance for ruck just not worth it. This meant if I was only having 2 playing rucks to start with they needed to be ones I felt the most confident in playing every week and less likely to need attending to.

• How do you approach your backline? With the loss of so many top scores there is a distinct lack of quality options do you go with multiple premiums, one premium and mid pricers or mid pricers and rookies?
I banked on reliable older players I felt were really midfielders playing in back half. This meant Hodge, Kade Simpson and James Kelly were chosen by me as keepers. After that I looked to get two mid pricers hoping they would both end up keepers. Newnes was a no brainer as the mid pricer because everything pointed towards him spending more time in middle of ground and therefore better scoring opportunities. He was no David Swallow lock like previous season for me but he seemed the best bet of the rest for 2015. After that the other defenders would be dictated if there were enough viable rookie options. There did not seem many. I missed on McIntosh in round one simply because I knew so little about him and therefore with so few defender rookies on offer I went an extra mid pricer in Ibbotson. I felt he might be value for money and average maybe 85ish and be a cheap D6 for just over 300K. In the end I think that was one mid pricer too many. Intend to correct that this week swapping Ibbotson for cash cow McIntosh now he is on the bubble. I also gave serious thought to all of Gibson, SD Thompson and M Johnson for a keeper defence but Ibbotson was cheaper and that appealed more given not overly keen to spend much in backline if I can avoid it.

• Conversely with the glut of Mid/Fwd options do you start with an ultra premium FWD line?
When I looked at the forward line I saw so many players I felt could average in keeper range that there was no real reason to get hooked on locking in many from start. The only one I felt was a lock was Robbie Gray as felt he is most certain of the lot to average something high. After that I picked Bartel and Zorko with no particular reason other than I like both of them as players and feel very confident they can average at least 90 but also very capable of getting over 100 average if they play more time in midfield. The rest were the usual suspects of rookies that we all got. Probably the most unique part of my line-up was punting on young Josh Kelly as a mid pricer with a lot of upside. So in conclusion I certainly have not gone ultra premium FWD line. I felt it was more wise to leave my options open here by not locking in too many. I can now look at guys like Dane Swan, Franklin, The Bonts, Goddard, De Ledio, Dustbin Martin, Brent Harvey and grab the best value when opportunity presents itself best. I just did not see the difference in scoring by all of them would be much. Seems like lots of them so why lock myself in when did not need to.

• How many ultra premium Mids do you start with? Savings can be made in the backline and with some midpricers in your RUC, how many will you start with?
I was originally starting with 4 of them. They were going to be Rockliff, Ablett, Pendlebury and Fyfe however the night before Gold Coast first game I convinced myself the risk of picking Ablett and the likelyhood of him failing to score in way I wanted was too high a price to pay so I removed him and installed Jobe Watson. Watson may not be as likely to score as high but I did know he is capable of getting the 120 ppg average and that is something I was happy to invest in at a lot cheaper price than Gazza.

It is actually my biggest concern right now is I feel a premium down in midfield on front runners so If I had my time again I may have not had any mid pricers like Ibbotson and Newnes down back and instead got a fifth premium in the midfield. I am likely to try to find a way to get an extra mid premium in as soon as possible.
 
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Essendon
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Thought I put my question here as really would love to here some thoughts on this area of the effect of having more than just 2 expensive rookies in team.
This is really a question directed to experienced coaches like Phil, Ben , Jay, Aps , Obie or any others that regularly been right in the mix for SC success over more than one season.
Right now I been planning on getting Vanberlo in my team this weekend by virtue of him looking to be having good JS and good prospects to make between $150 and $200K profit as a cash cow. However I am slightly concerned at this moment that it will be another expensive cash cow in my squad and starting to wonder the side effects that could have on my overall game for season ahead. Never had this many before so it is an area of unknown territory for me in Supercoach game.
I have Sheed, Cripps, Salem. I have no strong desire to trade any out when still think they can make handy profit. Also Mitch Clark is not dirt cheap for a cash cow in team which I have too. Even though Vanberlo looks a near certainly to make cash is there some real danger this could have some other side effect on my team to my disadvantage to have so many expensive cash cow types?
One thing is clear. It is a bit harder to milk them early because their starting price is a lot higher than just $110K for example so it tends to mean they will need to take longer to milk. Especially Cripps because he missed a game already.
Just having second thoughts of whether to actually trade Touk Miller to Vanberlo and use a trade that could be handy having up sleeve later on. I am not totally given up on hope Miller can turn his form around and still make some cash but with two poor scores it is not a good start. I just wonder if I trade cheap Miller to Vanberlo I am starting to invest too much cash in expensive cash cows. Can there be one too many of these types ?
Thoughts of any of you guys would be appreciated of the pros and cons of having so many expensive cash cows in squad.
I wouldn't worry about the price of the rookies. The things to consider are:
- who will make the most cash and in what timeframe.
- any points advantage you may get from NVB.
- any potential loophole benefit you may get from Miller if he is dropped.
- can you spend the money you have saved in a better way, for example will it allow you to do an early premium upgrade in weeks 5-6, or do you want it as a safety net for any injuries.
- and are the perceived benefits worth the cost of a trade

You need to look at all your rookies and try and predict when you will be culling them and at approx. what price and see who best fits in with your upgrade plans. If you think you may need more cash to upgrade to particular players and that NVB gives that to you, then trade. If you think you will have a lot of rookies peaking at the same time, but Miller peaking earlier/later, then Miller may be the best option (so Cripps missing is not such a bad thing as it staggers when he is culled).

Also, while it may take longer for more expensive rookies to peak, I wouldn't be waiting for the last 10-15% in price rises. They should have risen quickly enough in the first 5-7 weeks (if scoring 80+) to considered being culled, especially if there is an opportunity to grab a fallen premium/downgrade to a rookie on the bubble.
 
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I wouldn't worry about the price of the rookies. The things to consider are:
- who will make the most cash and in what timeframe.
- any points advantage you may get from NVB.
- any potential loophole benefit you may get from Miller if he is dropped.
- can you spend the money you have saved in a better way, for example will it allow you to do an early premium upgrade in weeks 5-6, or do you want it as a safety net for any injuries.
- and are the perceived benefits worth the cost of a trade

You need to look at all your rookies and try and predict when you will be culling them and at approx. what price and see who best fits in with your upgrade plans. If you think you may need more cash to upgrade to particular players and that NVB gives that to you, then trade. If you think you will have a lot of rookies peaking at the same time, but Miller peaking earlier/later, then Miller may be the best option (so Cripps missing is not such a bad thing as it staggers when he is culled).

Also, while it may take longer for more expensive rookies to peak, I wouldn't be waiting for the last 10-15% in price rises. They should have risen quickly enough in the first 5-7 weeks (if scoring 80+) to considered being culled, especially if there is an opportunity to grab a fallen premium/downgrade to a rookie on the bubble.
Really love and appreciate the feedback on all that. The timeframe part seems important that you mentioned as last night I was projecting a few weeks ahead some planned trades and how Miller or NVB fit with rest of my structure seems important right now for me. You are helping me remove some of my concerns of the unknown ahead.
Thanks aps1.
 
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Essendon
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I thought I'd bump this post just to give a view on why sideways trading rookies tends to not work out as well as expected

suggested trade after round 2 was Miller > Van Berlo.

Post round 4, Miller is currently on $202,900 BE - 48, profit of $85,600, scoring 169 points
Van Berlo is currently on $293,400 BE 64, profit of $77,800, scoring 111 points

and secondly to that you have Vandenberg that you'd probably have choosen VB on the park, who has scored 174 points

So if you pulled the trigger on miller > VB, you'd be $7,800 behind and 63 point behind and 1 trade less!


Just goes to show that showing patience sometimes pays off
 
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