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Already trading Salem to Kennedy this week and planned to go Hibberd to McKenzie but after CEY's omission, thinking of going CEY to Glenn.

Should I trade Hibberd or CEY??
 

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Rowsus.
Savage. I was keen on him all preseason and I traded him in as part of my fateful Rocky--> Parker and Goodes---> savage trade.
He played a shocker last week which I blame on some sort of hamstring of leg related issue. He was subbed off and had all manner of icepacs and contraptions over his leg. Very suprised he was named this week.
Ever since his corky, he hasn't scored the same. Normally very cautious with Premos (held T Mitch for half last year) but a 32 in 3/4 of a game. Seriously bad.

Originally had locked in
Savage---> McKenzie
Salem---> Zieball

Salem surprisingly also not out injured but with a BE for 42 he's gotta go.

By the way I beleive Zieball will average at the very least 95. Had a healthy TOG of 82 & 83 prior to being smashed (only managed 80+ 4 times last year).
Has been slowly managed back into it with TOG of 68, then 73 the last 2 matches. At 390k I reckon he is a bargain for player who is playing predominantly midfeild. At worst he becomes F7/M9 swinger.
Should I trade him or let him stay.

Other options include:
McIntosh---> McKenzie
Salem---> Zieball

Or
Vandenburg ---> Glenn
Salem----> Zieball

Or
Salem---> Glenn.....
Hold

Would love your calming influence you son of a gun.
 

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Already trading Salem to Kennedy this week and planned to go Hibberd to McKenzie but after CEY's omission, thinking of going CEY to Glenn.

Should I trade Hibberd or CEY??
Neither.
CEY still has nearly $100k to make before he's ready to be milked.
If Hibberd is your biggest problem/best use of a trade, your team is travelling pretty well!
 

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Savage. I was keen on him all preseason and I traded him in as part of my fateful Rocky--> Parker and Goodes---> savage trade.
He played a shocker last week which I blame on some sort of hamstring of leg related issue. He was subbed off and had all manner of icepacs and contraptions over his leg. Very suprised he was named this week.
Ever since his corky, he hasn't scored the same. Normally very cautious with Premos (held T Mitch for half last year) but a 32 in 3/4 of a game. Seriously bad.

Originally had locked in
Savage---> McKenzie
Salem---> Zieball

Salem surprisingly also not out injured but with a BE for 42 he's gotta go.

By the way I beleive Zieball will average at the very least 95. Had a healthy TOG of 82 & 83 prior to being smashed (only managed 80+ 4 times last year).
Has been slowly managed back into it with TOG of 68, then 73 the last 2 matches. At 390k I reckon he is a bargain for player who is playing predominantly midfeild. At worst he becomes F7/M9 swinger.
Should I trade him or let him stay.

Other options include:
McIntosh---> McKenzie
Salem---> Zieball

Or
Vandenburg ---> Glenn
Salem----> Zieball

Or
Salem---> Glenn.....
Hold

Would love your calming influence you son of a gun.
McC,
you probably have read already, I'm no fan of JZ. But if you are comitted to him, I like your first option best.
McIntosh and Vdb have more money to make yet, and as good and as safe as he looks, play the "traditional" role, and wait for Glenn to get on the bubble.
 
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hey rowsus
im in two minds about making trades this week. My initial plan was B.Goodes > McKenzie and J.Anderson/Heeney/Salem > Goddard/Buddy.

Now that Heeny and Anderson have been named, i am unsure if i want to pull the trigger since they can still generate cash. Do you see much more growth in anderson/heeney/salem? if you had to trade one this week which one would it be?

i guess i can just do the goodes > mckenzie and hold the trade for now? I have only made 4 trades and they have all been sideways for injured players
 

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hey rowsus
im in two minds about making trades this week. My initial plan was B.Goodes > McKenzie and J.Anderson/Heeney/Salem > Goddard/Buddy.

Now that Heeny and Anderson have been named, i am unsure if i want to pull the trigger since they can still generate cash. Do you see much more growth in anderson/heeney/salem? if you had to trade one this week which one would it be?

i guess i can just do the goodes > mckenzie and hold the trade for now? I have only made 4 trades and they have all been sideways for injured players
hey d-buzzz,
even though it's a week early, a Goodes to McK trade probably is worth the risk, and if Goodes has the green vest, it would seem crazy not to do it!
If I was set to trade out one of Salem/Heeney/Anderson, I'd probably choose Salem. The other two have more potential for further growth than Salem, though Anderson's JS is a worry. If either Heeney or Anderson have the green vest, choose them, otherwise, I'd choose Salem.
 
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Hi Rowsus,

A quick one for you: What do you think of Salem and TBC to Ryder and Glenn (using Krak DPP)?

I got TBC for cover and it would absolutely kill me if a Ruck went down now after suffering TBC's scores to date so hence Ryder rather than a 'real' forward.
 

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Hi Rowsus,

A quick one for you: What do you think of Salem and TBC to Ryder and Glenn (using Krak DPP)?

I got TBC for cover and it would absolutely kill me if a Ruck went down now after suffering TBC's scores to date so hence Ryder rather than a 'real' forward.
Hi Bones,
it's obviously taking Glenn a week early, but apart from that, I like it! :)
 
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Hi Rowsus,

In light of your brilliant ruck analysis, do you think this is the week to make moves to put bellchambers to the bench finally (i still see him as having value in my team though) and bring in the big stefan martin? To do this though, it would require going a week or two early on jesse hogan.

So my trades would be:

Salem > McKenzie

Hogan > Martin (swinging Bellchambers to fwd bench)

Many thanks for your help


EDIT: noticed the burger has been named. should this be a worry for martin?
 
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Hi Rowsus,

A quick one for you: What do you think of Salem and TBC to Ryder and Glenn (using Krak DPP)?

I got TBC for cover and it would absolutely kill me if a Ruck went down now after suffering TBC's scores to date so hence Ryder rather than a 'real' forward.
Hi Bones,
it's obviously taking Glenn a week early, but apart from that, I like it! :)
OK done! All I need now is for TBC to play his usual game, Pendles, Selwood and Fyfe to stuff up the VC/C, and Gray to fire as my C and I may catch up a bit - how's that for a bit of schadenfreude :D
 

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Hey Rowsus,

Just wondering what are your thoughts on Jeremy McGovern?? I am really considering trading Newnes out for him either this week or next.
Also your thoughts on Goddard, is he worth jumping on??
Will also be watching Glenn and McKenzie closely, is it worth jumping one of them early maybe?

My team is linked if you have the time to look.

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G'day Rowsus,

I am new to Supercoach this year, I've had a big pre-season of research behind me and travelling alright thus far (ranked in top 4%). One thing I can't get my head around is how to tackle the bye-rounds. In your opinion, what would be the ideal numbers of round 11, round 12 and round 13 bye players heading into the bye rounds, and how should we trade in these rounds, is there a common tactic employed by many coaches?

Thanks,
BomberSam.
 

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Hey Rowsus. Just a quick X vs Y:

Lumumba & Newnes > McKenzie & Pittard/Murphy

Vs

Newnes & Salem > McKenzie & Dahlhaus/Buddy

So I guess it's really down to a defence upgrade vs a forward upgrade? I could possibly do one this week and one next week by cashing in a mid rookie to Glenn. Or do I just stick with Lumumba for now?

The third option is to not trade this week and do the double downgrade next week to build the war chest. Can then do two upgrades in round 8.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Hey Rowsus,

Just wondering what are your thoughts on Jeremy McGovern?? I am really considering trading Newnes out for him either this week or next.
Also your thoughts on Goddard, is he worth jumping on??
Will also be watching Glenn and McKenzie closely, is it worth jumping one of them early maybe?

My team is linked if you have the time to look.

Cheers, Goodie
Hey GG,
of all the "over" performing tall Defs, he is the one I am most likely to take. He's one of the best readers of the ball in flight playing now, even though he is so inexperienced. That's the secret to his high number of marks, and as we know, contested marks from opposition kicks are SC gold. He just reads it, and positions himself so well. It's a real skill. I can see him being in the top 6 to 8 Defs, and if he's not, I'd expect him to be just outside it.
Goddard's a watch for me. I want to see more games that show his role when everyone is back playing.
If you feel you need to jump early at Glenn or McKenzie, because it suits next weeks trades better, take Glenn. McKenzie could be a bit iffy, and with all GC's dramas, I can see Glenn getting a bit of a run.
 

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G'day Rowsus,

I am new to Supercoach this year, I've had a big pre-season of research behind me and travelling alright thus far (ranked in top 4%). One thing I can't get my head around is how to tackle the bye-rounds. In your opinion, what would be the ideal numbers of round 11, round 12 and round 13 bye players heading into the bye rounds, and how should we trade in these rounds, is there a common tactic employed by many coaches?

Thanks,
BomberSam.
G'day BS,
don't over think the bye rounds, just try and keep an eye on your squad, and keep it reasonably balanced.
Mathematically, the best structure is: 8, 11, 11. This gives you 22 players in Rnd 11, then in Rnd 12 you trade 3 Rnd 12 players to Rnd 11 players, giving you 22 players in Rnd 12, then in Rnd 13 you trade 3 Rnd 13 players to Rnd 11/12 players, once again giving you 22 players in Rnd 13. It really isn't worth altering any structures to try and achieve this though.
A lot of Coaches try and avoid trading in Rnd 11. This is because any player you bring in will miss a game, so they feel it is wasteful. Those right at the pointy end of the table probably can't afford to take this approach, as it will put them a week behind their opponents in completing their team.
Another tactic I've seen adopted by a lot of successful Coaches is to Cash out their worst performing Keeper in the first bye week. Especially if it is a Round 11 Keeper. They then have a bank to facilitate good upgrades in this most important trading period. With a good bank you can make 3, possibly 4 upgrades in Rounds 12 and 13. Without a bank, you can probably make 2, or 3 if you are lucky. Trade agressively in Rounds 12 and 13, as it is the only opportunities to use 3 trades and bring in players you hope will not miss a game!
 

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Hey GG,
of all the "over" performing tall Defs, he is the one I am most likely to take. He's one of the best readers of the ball in flight playing now, even though he is so inexperienced. That's the secret to his high number of marks, and as we know, contested marks from opposition kicks are SC gold. He just reads it, and positions himself so well. It's a real skill. I can see him being in the top 6 to 8 Defs, and if he's not, I'd expect him to be just outside it.
Goddard's a watch for me. I want to see more games that show his role when everyone is back playing.
If you feel you need to jump early at Glenn or McKenzie, because it suits next weeks trades better, take Glenn. McKenzie could be a bit iffy, and with all GC's dramas, I can see Glenn getting a bit of a run.
Cheers Rowsus, you're a champion. That's exactly what I am wanting to hear. :)
So would you trade out Newnes ahead of Lumumba (even though he has the Swans this week)??

By getting McGovern I feel as though I'll be getting a fairly consistent DEF, and that then gives me a few more weeks to assess the other DEF upgrade options and the likes of Hodge will come back, Hibberd's price will flatten etc.
 
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Cheers Rowsus, you're a champion. That's exactly what I am wanting to hear. :)
So would you trade out Newnes ahead of Lumumba (even though he has the Swans this week)??

By getting McGovern I feel as though I'll be getting a fairly consistent DEF, and that then gives me a few more weeks to assess the other DEF upgrade options and the likes of Hodge will come back, Hibberd's price will flatten etc.
Thanks GG and Rowsus; I'll be jumping on McGovern too this week, but he'll be going up forward to form a swing set with Shaun Higgins. I'll be going against your advice to bring McKenzie in instead of Glenn to the midfield, but it's only because McKenzie offers DPP flexibility. In fact, it might be one of the most convoluted trades of all: Goodes out, Higgins to Defence, Krakouer to Forwards, and McKenzie in. Then I will immediately switch McKenzie and Newnes, and loophole Newnes in the midfield and place McKenzie at D8. When I trade NvB out, Krakouer will come back into the midfield and McGovern will come in.
 
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G'day BS,
don't over think the bye rounds, just try and keep an eye on your squad, and keep it reasonably balanced.
Mathematically, the best structure is: 8, 11, 11. This gives you 22 players in Rnd 11, then in Rnd 12 you trade 3 Rnd 12 players to Rnd 11 players, giving you 22 players in Rnd 12, then in Rnd 13 you trade 3 Rnd 13 players to Rnd 11/12 players, once again giving you 22 players in Rnd 13. It really isn't worth altering any structures to try and achieve this though.
A lot of Coaches try and avoid trading in Rnd 11. This is because any player you bring in will miss a game, so they feel it is wasteful. Those right at the pointy end of the table probably can't afford to take this approach, as it will put them a week behind their opponents in completing their team.
Another tactic I've seen adopted by a lot of successful Coaches is to Cash out their worst performing Keeper in the first bye week. Especially if it is a Round 11 Keeper. They then have a bank to facilitate good upgrades in this most important trading period. With a good bank you can make 3, possibly 4 upgrades in Rounds 12 and 13. Without a bank, you can probably make 2, or 3 if you are lucky. Trade agressively in Rounds 12 and 13, as it is the only opportunities to use 3 trades and bring in players you hope will not miss a game!
Thanks a lot Rowsus, you have made it a lot simpler for me than I thought it would have been.
 

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Hey Rowsus. Just a quick X vs Y:

Lumumba & Newnes > McKenzie & Pittard/Murphy

Vs

Newnes & Salem > McKenzie & Dahlhaus/Buddy

So I guess it's really down to a defence upgrade vs a forward upgrade? I could possibly do one this week and one next week by cashing in a mid rookie to Glenn. Or do I just stick with Lumumba for now?

The third option is to not trade this week and do the double downgrade next week to build the war chest. Can then do two upgrades in round 8.

Thanks in advance.
Hey Bobbie,
if you decide to do only one of Lumumba or Newnes, then do Lumumba. He has a higher B/E and a tougher game to play.
If you are set on the idea, that they must both go, and the sooner the better, then you may as well go option 1, as both will lose cash this week.
As to Murphy v Pittard, you know what to expect from Murphy, and realise high 90's is probably his best result this season. Pittard has the potential to beat Murphy, but could also fall apart, and end up high 80's low 90's. Murphy is the safer pick, Pittard is the sexier pick, with a higher upside, and a really good draw in the next 7 weeks. With Defs being a bit of a rabble, unless you really feel like taking a punt, the safer pick might be the better one.
 

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Cheers Rowsus, you're a champion. That's exactly what I am wanting to hear. :)
So would you trade out Newnes ahead of Lumumba (even though he has the Swans this week)??

By getting McGovern I feel as though I'll be getting a fairly consistent DEF, and that then gives me a few more weeks to assess the other DEF upgrade options and the likes of Hodge will come back, Hibberd's price will flatten etc.
If you think you will cut both Lumumba and Newnes in the coming weeks, then put Lumumba out this week. He has a higher B/E and a tougher game, so should lose more value this week than Newnes.
 
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