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Hey Rowsus,

Better than I thought this week for me but still rubbish
MJ and taking a punt on Lewis (instead of Wines) in last minute, then putting him as capt. failed big time.
Keeping Oxley the only minor win after MJ went down.
What do we do with MJ?
Upgrade? Or Take a punt and downgrade to B. Smith and hope he lifts.
Just didn't really what to touch backline so I can upgrade in mids or Fwds
But just live with playing one of Lever, McIntosh or Hameling
 
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Hi Rowsus,

sorry about your round 10 result but glad to hear your punting is going well, surely more satisfaction in that!

do you think it's too late to get T Mitchell in? i banked on him not getting games or the average that was suspected. now i think i'm behind without him. he's still reasonably priced, i just fear that i get him in and everything goes the way i suspected?

thanks for your advice, always appreciated!
 
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Hi mate, due to donut and injury issues last week, I was forced to hold off on trading in Oliver Wines.
Do you still think he is a good trade in this week and can maintain his form to be a top 8 midfielder from here onwards?
Thanks!
 
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Hey Rowsus,
Just wanted to get your opinion on my planned trades (barring injuries) over the bye rounds and whether you had any feedback/suggestions for improvement.
I currently have $218,100 in the bank and my team looks like:

DEF: Shaw, Simpson, Yeo, Hibberd, Newnes, Saad (McIntosh, Lever)
MID: Fyfe, Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Kennedy, Selwood, Griffen, Cripps, Ellis-Yolmen (Dumont, McKenzie, Anderson)
RUC: Goldstein, Naitanui (Read)
FWD: Gray, Martin, Swan, Mitchell, Bellchambers, Clark (Tarrant, Dale)

My planned trades over the next three rounds are:
Round 11:
-Bellchambers -> Franklin
-Ellis-Yolmen -> Boston
-McIntosh -> Hamling
Salary: ≈$449,000
Round 12:
-Griffen -> Sloane
-Saad -> Smith
-McKenzie -> Beams
Salary: ≈$52,400
Round 13:
-Tarrant -> Fantasia
-Clark -> Harvey
Salary: ≈$5900

Barring injuries, these trades should see me with 21 players in round 11 (20 if Clark isn't named), 19 players in round 12 (assuming Anderson isn't named and Clark plays) and 20 players in round 13 (assuming Anderson isn't named).
These trades will leave me with 9 trades for the remainder of the season, and my team looking like this:

DEF: Shaw, Simpson, Yeo, Hibberd, Smith, Newnes (Lever, Hamling)
MID: Fyfe, Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Beams, Kennedy, Sloane, Selwood, Cripps (Dumont, Boston, Anderson)
RUC: Goldstein, Naitanui (Read)
FWD: Gray, Swan, Martin, Mitchell, Franklin, Harvey (Fantasia, Dale)

Obviously the weak links of the team that still most likely require upgrading are Newnes and Cripps, so will have to figure out a way to trade them both out after the bye rounds in as little trades as possible.
Also, ideally would not like to bring in Smith and would prefer to bring in a Houli/Hodge type, but I feel like I have to compromise if I want to complete my team as quickly and in as little trades as possible.
Another concern with these trade plans is that they don't leave me with much cover for the remainder of the season, and as much as I'd love to bring in some D7/M9/F7 type players, I'm not sure I have the trades to do so without compromising points on field too much, but would love to hear your opinion.

Sorry about the long message, and thanks in advance Rowsus, love your work mate!
 
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Hi Rowsus,
A bit of a difficult question but i'm sure you've dealt with harder ones
Next week i am looking at going Hibberd/Saad/Oxley - Birchall/Houli and Hodge

- At the moment the prices of my trade ins are 462100, 480400 and 544200 respectively
- Hibberd is currently priced at 433500 with a BE of 90, Saad at 381400 with a BE of 77 and Oxley at 380400 with a BE of 78

After doing this weeks trades i have 312200 remaining.
So what i am asking is what is the lowest cumulative total that Hibberd, Saad and Oxley can score for me to be able to attain my intended trade ins for next week. I am assuming it will be somewhere between 210-220 points. Thanks in advance and if this is too hard to work out that's all good!
 

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Hi Rowsus,
A bit of a difficult question but i'm sure you've dealt with harder ones
Next week i am looking at going Hibberd/Saad/Oxley - Birchall/Houli and Hodge

- At the moment the prices of my trade ins are 462100, 480400 and 544200 respectively
- Hibberd is currently priced at 433500 with a BE of 90, Saad at 381400 with a BE of 77 and Oxley at 380400 with a BE of 78

After doing this weeks trades i have 312200 remaining.
So what i am asking is what is the lowest cumulative total that Hibberd, Saad and Oxley can score for me to be able to attain my intended trade ins for next week. I am assuming it will be somewhere between 210-220 points. Thanks in advance and if this is too hard to work out that's all good!
My calculations have the lowest possible score from your three players at 199... I could be wrong though. Looking forward to Rowsus' clarification.
 
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Hi Rowsus,
I remember one of Obies' rules to swap a LTI premium like for like, so MJ to Higgins for better or worse.
I have no idea what to do moving forward, I have Tarrant and Clark on the bench with a completed forward line, with no M/F link in the mids.
I have Cripps and Dumont as playing mid rookies, Glenn, Anderson, McKenzie. Backline, 6 reasonable players on the park am happy with at the moment. I am blank after trying all sorts of trades with 13 left following the MJ trade and 66k. Nothing looks or feels right, perhaps I should wait until something presents, maybe the wise move.
I would appreciate any thoughts you may have to move forward with bugger all trades left.
Slainte,
Keith
 

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Hi Rowsus,
I remember one of Obies' rules to swap a LTI premium like for like, so MJ to Higgins for better or worse.
I have no idea what to do moving forward, I have Tarrant and Clark on the bench with a completed forward line, with no M/F link in the mids.
I have Cripps and Dumont as playing mid rookies, Glenn, Anderson, McKenzie. Backline, 6 reasonable players on the park am happy with at the moment. I am blank after trying all sorts of trades with 13 left following the MJ trade and 66k. Nothing looks or feels right, perhaps I should wait until something presents, maybe the wise move.
I would appreciate any thoughts you may have to move forward with bugger all trades left.
Slainte,
Keith
Keith,

Saw your post when I was planning my trades for the upcoming MBRs so I figured I'll have a look at your team to see if I can help out a buddy. I've come up with a trading plan which will help you get through the MBRs and come out with a complete team, I'm sure Rowan will have his own insight but thought I share my findings with you to give you another option.

As I see it, you have 14 trades and approx. 98K in the bank with a further 5 upgrades to complete your team, namely 3 in DEF and 2 in the MID.

Your team as it stand at the end of Round 10.

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The table below list your current Rookies stock, possible target upgrades and Rookies on the bubble.

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Below is the trading plan I've come up with through the MBRs.

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After Round 11 trades, this is how your players stack up according to their respective bye rounds.

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Rowsus, could you please remind us of what you see as a sensible structure to target as we look to complete our teams? For example, which bench players should we be looking to have as DPPs, and playing/not playing (ie, floating donuts)?

It's something I've been giving a little thought to as my team nears completion. I am quite unlucky to have a R-F or D-F loop, but the others look quite achievable.

I expect that the upcoming bye rounds and injuries/omissions might distract us from the longer-term plan for the next few weeks, but it could also be a heavy trading period, so I thought I would try to keep the long game in mind! :)
Rowsus - as a secondary question, if you owned Jack Steven and had started with him, would you be looking to hold him or trade soon?

If it matters, I selected him as a stepping stone/outside chance of being a keeper, and if I trade him, it will probably give me an extra premo score through the byes (R12 issues). Thanks in advance.
 

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The table below highlight the players you have available for each of the bye rounds.

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In summary...

Round 11 - field 19 players of which 13 are keepers, this number may increase pending selections of H Goddard, J Glenn & M Clark.

Round 12 - field 19 players of which 14 are keepers.

Round 13 - field 18 players of which 15 are keepers, this number may increase pending selections of H Goddard, J Glenn & J Steele.

This will give you a complete team with 6 trades and approx. 50K (price rise for Lever versus price drop for Sidebottom) going into Round 14.

You'll still have the following Rookies available to cash out and build up your bench cover: Hamling, McKenzie, Dumont, Boston & Glenn and H Goddard & Steele if and when they get some games, otherwise can be utilise as FDs.

I must admit after doing this exercise with your team, it doesn't look that bad at all and certainly has the basis for a strong platform. You, like me and many others, have just had a bad run of injuries since the start of the season and have been using up our trades to fix up LTIs rather than progressing our team along the path to FULL Premium. Despite the challenges, you've done extremely well to maintain the core backbone of your team which makes it easier to build upon. Isn't it amazing how good your team can look to the naked eyes when we remove some of the 'deadwood'?

Good luck for the remaining of the season mate and I hope you come through these MBRs with flying colours. Hope my brief commentary on your team helps you along the way and as your signature says, 'Do Something!'
 
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Keith,

Saw your post when I was planning my trades for the upcoming MBRs so I figured I'll have a look at your team to see if I can help out a buddy. I've come up with a trading plan which will help you get through the MBRs and come out with a complete team, I'm sure Rowan will have his own insight but thought I share my findings with you to give you another option.
This is why I love this community, always willing to help each other as best they can. Exceptional effort THCLT.
 

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What an awesome piece of work THCLT! You could start your own thread with that sort of thing!!! (My turn next - ha ha!) :p

Seriously though, that is why I love this forum. Everyone is always so helpful.
 
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Rowsus - as a secondary question, if you owned Jack Steven and had started with him, would you be looking to hold him or trade soon?

If it matters, I selected him as a stepping stone/outside chance of being a keeper, and if I trade him, it will probably give me an extra premo score through the byes (R12 issues). Thanks in advance.
At the risk of stealing Rowsus' thunder - he actually answered a similar question from me last week! To save him some work, here's what he had to say....

it's certainly can be one of the problems with taking those higher mid-priced players, with the intention of using them as Stepping Stones. If they perform well, you want to keep them, if they perform poorly, it's a waste of money and a trade. Steven was averaging 102 before his weekend monster, and I guess the questions become: What do you think he can achieve from here, until the end of the season, and from here, until his bye?
Before his weekend monster, 2 of his seasons best 3 scores were in a win, and a close loss. Given St Kilda's standing in the competition, they may not have too many of those after their bye. Looking at his coming opponents:
Brisbane:
Rnd 8 opposition Mids scored: 119, 112, 112 - but none of those were Watson or Heppell!
Rnd 7 Gray scored 134, and Wingard 105, but Boak 75, Ebert 73, Cornes 55
Rnd 6 Gibbs, Judd, Cripps were all between 104 and 113, but Murphy was 78
Conclusion: Brisbane can do a fair job of containing the one or two main opposition Mids.
Hawthorn:
Rnd 8 Hanne 138, Parker 124, Jack 107, JPK 104
Rnd 7 N Jones 104, next best Mid Vince 79!
Rnd 6 Ward 131, Griffen, Shiel, Treloar, Greene 101-107
Conclusion: You probably need good Midfield depth to have one or two score well against Haw.
Melbourne:
Rnd 8 Boyd 132, Dahl 124, Wallis 115, Bont got Vinced for 42
Rnd 7 Mitchell, Shiels, Hartung all 121-128, no Lewis
Rnd 6 JPK 135, Titchell, 125, Parker 119, Jack 110, but Hanne 85. Was Hanne Vinced?
Conclusion: Vince is becoming a good tagger, but the ones that don't get Vince, score well!
If you think he can't go in the 106-108 area from here, and fill a cheap M8 role, or you are scared to change plans, because changing plans can lead to things backfiring, then you need to trade him out. The question becomes, when? He has a B/E of 65, so you'd think he might rise about $15-17k after this week. One thing to keep in mind, even though Steven was averaging 102 before the weekend, his AF average was 113, that might be an indicator that he can score at an M7/8 Keeper level. He'll probably struggle against Hawthorn, and will Vince go to Armitage or Steven? Also, you need to look at what your trades are possibly going to be in the coming weeks. Do you have your eye on someone, that might need 2 trades next week? If so, it might be time to trade him this week, unless you already have those trades planned too. If you're unsure, and it all looks too hard, you should probably hold him until Round 12, and trade him then. Find your intended Rnd 11/13 target for Steven, and look at his B/E and his draw, and time your trade around him. For the moment, I'd probably keep him at least until his bye.
 
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If Row if could help it would be most appreciated.
I have no idea what to do over the next few rounds.
This is my current team

DEF- Shaw, Pittard, Simpson, Smith Saad, Brown, Mckenzie and Lever
MID- Fyfe, Pendles, JPK, Jelwood, Beams, Wines Cripps, Miller, CEY, Amon and Boston
RUCK- Goldy and Jacobs Mclaren
FWD- Gray, Martin, Swan, Tich, Zorko Tarrant, Clark and Lambert

R11 Bye- B.Smith, J.Lever, C.Ellis-Yolmen, S.Jacobs, D.Zorko, K.Simpson, P.Cripps, D.Martin, K.Lambert, D.Beams
R12 Bye- A.Oxley, N.Brown, S.Pendlebury, D.Swan, N.Fyfe, A.Saad, T.Miller, D.Mckenzie, JP.Kennedy, T.Mitchell, S.McLaren, Boston
R13 Bye- J.Selwood, M.Clark, T.Goldstein, O.Wines, J.Pittard, R.Gray, H.Shaw, K.Amon

i have $120,600 in the bank and 15 trades
Would love any thoughts please
ps would like to keep cripps as long as possible.
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Rowsus, could you please remind us of what you see as a sensible structure to target as we look to complete our teams? For example, which bench players should we be looking to have as DPPs, and playing/not playing (ie, floating donuts)?

It's something I've been giving a little thought to as my team nears completion. I am quite unlucky to have a R-F or D-F loop, but the others look quite achievable.

I expect that the upcoming bye rounds and injuries/omissions might distract us from the longer-term plan for the next few weeks, but it could also be a heavy trading period, so I thought I would try to keep the long game in mind! :)
Darkie, the most sensible structure to have, is to build as many points into your team as you can as your first goal, then worry about coverage as your second goal. In general, I wouldn't think there was a need for planned FD's as the season wears on. Not many of us are getting more than 25 or 26 of our squad selected on weekly basis anyway, so the tools are already there for loopholing. I do think it is very important to build DPP links where possible, especially if your season is travelling well, and you can afford say a $450k M/F sitting at M9/F7 for coverage. Not many will be in this position, but having built in versatility provides coverage for those tricky weeks, as well as better loopholing possibilities. I don't think you need the full set of links, and I certainty wouldn't compromise selections to make a 3rd or 4th set of DPP's, but if someone doesn't have one or two set up already, and they are tossing up player A and player B, then picking the one that completes a link is a good idea!
The larger problem, in trying to set a generic structure or guideline, is that every situation is different. Some lucky teams already have 19 Keepers, DPP links set up, and 16 trades left. Other teams, like myself, have been gutted by one long term injury after another, and only have 15-16 Keepers, and 13 trades left. The "lucky" Coaches can pick and choose, and make a great team with good coverage. Coaches like myself will have to make compromised selections. As an example, I will be replacing MJ (my 8th LTI trade!) with B Smith. I'm not happy about doing it, and would prefer someone else, but if I am to complete my team with no Rookies in my starting 22, I will need to make at least 2 compromised selections. They look like being my D6 and F6.

Rowsus - as a secondary question, if you owned Jack Steven and had started with him, would you be looking to hold him or trade soon?

If it matters, I selected him as a stepping stone/outside chance of being a keeper, and if I trade him, it will probably give me an extra premo score through the byes (R12 issues). Thanks in advance.
At the risk of stealing Rowsus' thunder - he actually answered a similar question from me last week! To save him some work, here's what he had to say....
G'day Zagbag,
it's certainly can be one of the problems with taking those higher mid-priced players, with the intention of using them as Stepping Stones. If they perform well, you want to keep them, if they perform poorly, it's a waste of money and a trade. Steven was averaging 102 before his weekend monster, and I guess the questions become: What do you think he can achieve from here, until the end of the season, and from here, until his bye?
Before his weekend monster, 2 of his seasons best 3 scores were in a win, and a close loss. Given St Kilda's standing in the competition, they may not have too many of those after their bye. Looking at his coming opponents:
Brisbane:
Rnd 8 opposition Mids scored: 119, 112, 112 - but none of those were Watson or Heppell!
Rnd 7 Gray scored 134, and Wingard 105, but Boak 75, Ebert 73, Cornes 55
Rnd 6 Gibbs, Judd, Cripps were all between 104 and 113, but Murphy was 78
Conclusion: Brisbane can do a fair job of containing the one or two main opposition Mids.
Hawthorn:
Rnd 8 Hanne 138, Parker 124, Jack 107, JPK 104
Rnd 7 N Jones 104, next best Mid Vince 79!
Rnd 6 Ward 131, Griffen, Shiel, Treloar, Greene 101-107
Conclusion: You probably need good Midfield depth to have one or two score well against Haw.
Melbourne:
Rnd 8 Boyd 132, Dahl 124, Wallis 115, Bont got Vinced for 42
Rnd 7 Mitchell, Shiels, Hartung all 121-128, no Lewis
Rnd 6 JPK 135, Titchell, 125, Parker 119, Jack 110, but Hanne 85. Was Hanne Vinced?
Conclusion: Vince is becoming a good tagger, but the ones that don't get Vince, score well!
If you think he can't go in the 106-108 area from here, and fill a cheap M8 role, or you are scared to change plans, because changing plans can lead to things backfiring, then you need to trade him out. The question becomes, when? He has a B/E of 65, so you'd think he might rise about $15-17k after this week. One thing to keep in mind, even though Steven was averaging 102 before the weekend, his AF average was 113, that might be an indicator that he can score at an M7/8 Keeper level. He'll probably struggle against Hawthorn, and will Vince go to Armitage or Steven? Also, you need to look at what your trades are possibly going to be in the coming weeks. Do you have your eye on someone, that might need 2 trades next week? If so, it might be time to trade him this week, unless you already have those trades planned too. If you're unsure, and it all looks too hard, you should probably hold him until Round 12, and trade him then. Find your intended Rnd 11/13 target for Steven, and look at his B/E and his draw, and time your trade around him. For the moment, I'd probably keep him at least until his bye.
Bonts a tricky one, that's for sure. One thing I'm certain of, some people are too quick to label him a Prem! He's only averaged 84 in his last 5 matches, and his highest score in that time, 113 against St Kilda, was a real head scratcher. 15 possessions, no goals, an AF score of 66! Not often your SC:AF is 1.7:1! He does represent a problem. A B/E of 153 and he's already dropped nearly $25k from his peak price. He's currently priced to score around 94, and it's possible he could hold that price, after he drops a bit this week and next week. Given he's a 19 year old, 2nd year player, with only 23 games under his belt, it's also possible he will find the extra attention he's drawing too much, and his season will fall apart a bit, with the physical pressure leading to more missed games as we go along. Given his B/E, if you decide he has to go, then the sooner the better. He should lose more money than Tarrant this week, so if he's on your trade out list, he should go before Tarrant. I never had Bont, and I'm starting to feel good about that! Once again, if in doubt, hold him, but otherwise, out he goes this week!
KK hasn't scored under 81 in his last 5 games, has averaged 91 in his last 5, and 95 in his last 3. He's got a B/E of 58, and the playing list around him is riddled with holes, with 4 of last seasons 5 best Mids out with LTI's. I think you'd be mad to trade him out at the moment.
Thanks for the help, Zagbag. :)
My response to Zagbag was obviously written before the StK v Bris game. He has since added a 99 (AF 97) and 119 (AF 133), and similarly as I said with each Coach needing to trim his cloth to suit his own needs, it really applies here too. Depending on how many trades you have, and if you are a missing the M1/2/3/4's then you might need to keep him, or be better served by using him for what you got him for. While you gain an advantage of trading him to a Rnd 11 Mid Prem, that advantage may not equal a full trades worth. For example, say you trade Steven to Beams. Beams counts in your Rnd 12 score, and might replace a Rookie score in that Round, had you kept Steven. Let's say Beams is 115, and the Rookie was 65, advantage 50. To get the full measure for your trade (about 170 - 200 points at this time of year), you need Beams to outscore Steven by around 12/game from here on in to justify it. It's possible that will happen, but that's about the equation you are looking at, to trade Steven out. Otherwise, you hang onto him, as the last player to be upgraded, or if you are travelling really well, a fantastic M9! If the upgrade of Steven involves bringing in say Fyfe, then you just do it, as I'm pretty happy you will get your 12/game from the deal.
 

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Thoughts on Paul Duffield?

Not sure why he's so down on his historical average this year, role change or niggles?

Now with MJ injury and lack of defensive options at FRE, he may be worth a punt at around 290K?
To the naked eye, it looks like Freo have adopted a completely different Def structure, to try and cover their depeleted backline. Putting it too simply, the players in the backline are playing lockdown roles, and the Midfielder get down back to bring the ball out. Obviously this doesn't happen every single time, but enough to stop the players down there from scoring properly, or how they used to. If the Defs can create a stoppage, then Sandi and co. come down and drag the ball out again. I'd love to see the stats on scores against Freo from stoppages, but you would think it was just about the lowest in the League. I think they know it, and play to it.
That being said, Duffields worst two averages in the last 6 season are 76 and 80. If Duffield is to average 78 for the season, then he needs to average 90 from here!
I wouldn't back him to achieve that, but I would back him to outscore his $290k price tag quite comfortably from here. Given their Def structure, that might only be 75-80/game, on a 60/game price tag.
 
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Hey Rowsus,

Better than I thought this week for me but still rubbish
MJ and taking a punt on Lewis (instead of Wines) in last minute, then putting him as capt. failed big time.
Keeping Oxley the only minor win after MJ went down.
What do we do with MJ?
Upgrade? Or Take a punt and downgrade to B. Smith and hope he lifts.
Just didn't really what to touch backline so I can upgrade in mids or Fwds
But just live with playing one of Lever, McIntosh or Hameling
Hey Slammer,
My situation is, I have little choice but to go MJ to Smith. Too many LTI's have drained my trades, and to fill my team I will need to take cheaper/compromised picks for D6 and F6. If I don't, I will run out of trades before my team is complete. If you think you can fill your team without taking Smith for MJ, then that would be my suggestion. Downgrading MJ to a Rookie, or upgrading him to a stronger option are my preferred options, but the first one commits me to another trade, and the second one drains my cash resources, and given I have only 13 trades left, I can't afford to either. So Smith it is for me, if you can safely avoid him, I would, if you think you might struggle completing your team safely, then I suggest you follow suit.
 
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