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Hey there Rowsus.

Hope the flight home was comfortable for you. Was great to catch up with you last week. I had a ripper night.
Apologies again for that late phone call. It's fair to say that I'd had a fair sip. Got to my room, checked my phone, had 4 missed calls and a few messages, was going through them and the phone started dialing. I fair dinkum went into panic mode trying to turn the phone off then all of a sudden you answered. Felt quite the idiot I did.

Anyhow, my question is. For the money it takes to get Gaz with 1 trade, Would I be better off using 2 trades and upgrading 2 deadwood players (Hibberd and Smith) and bypassing Gaz. Looking at overall points for the rest of the season.

This is better explained if you have a quick look at Round 17 trades, page 10, #193.
Would value your opinion on this trade. Don't worry too much if you haven't got the time. I can understand you would be pretty busy and a little jet lagged at present.

Cheers.
My question to both Rowsus and Creeker is did you then share top notch late night SC banter??? hahahahaha :)
 
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Happy to help.
Adams has certainly been on fire, and his M/F status is useful too. Unless you think he might become tricky for you to reach, with his B/E of 64, or you are really confident in him, I still think I'd hold off, just in case.
Yep, not this week, he still has one week of suspension to come, maybe next week.
 

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Yeah I hope not :)
Hahaha yes I will keep an eye out haha.

If you get a chance mate would you mind having a look at my slight/potential issue...
(I've just copied over snippets of info haha)

I have Beams. I'm not someone who wants to trade him out coz of the talk going around about when he will go in for surgery. He's been on fire lately, and had he not gone at around 50% DE on the weekend would've cracked the 100 comfortably.

My issue though is that I currently have 3 trades, only 2 after the highlighted trades above.
If Beams does go in early for surgery, there goes my last trade. However my DPP links will cover all positions (except RUC).

So my question is, should I maybe do the Beams to Ablett?? :confused: :confused:
I don't want to, but it would mean I would probably have 2 trades left, as I wouldn't need to do the Amon to Payne trade to get the last bit of coin.

Would love some opinions :) Team linked :)



McGovern was going to be traded out as part of the plan to get Ablett.

I should have Bennell come back this week who slots onto the field, meaning I have 6 premiums, and Steele on the pine.


Steele would then most likely move forward with the addition of Ablett, and be used for loopholing, or I could keep him in the MID as a loophole, depending on which worked better. But the Beams story changes things possibly a little...
I don't think I'd sideways trade Beams to Ablett, while you are still loopholing at M8, or until Beams is confirmed out for the season.
I think I'd keep your trades this week, as it will take 2 trades to get an M8, and you don't want to commit to that path just yet.
 

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I don't think I'd sideways trade Beams to Ablett, while you are still loopholing at M8, or until Beams is confirmed out for the season.
I think I'd keep your trades this week, as it will take 2 trades to get an M8, and you don't want to commit to that path just yet.
Cheers mate. Thanks for that, it's what I'd rather do also. :)

No point trading Beams now until we know when he's in for surgery for sure.
 

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Hey there Rowsus.

Hope the flight home was comfortable for you. Was great to catch up with you last week. I had a ripper night.
Apologies again for that late phone call. It's fair to say that I'd had a fair sip. Got to my room, checked my phone, had 4 missed calls and a few messages, was going through them and the phone started dialing. I fair dinkum went into panic mode trying to turn the phone off then all of a sudden you answered. Felt quite the idiot I did.

Anyhow, my question is. For the money it takes to get Gaz with 1 trade, Would I be better off using 2 trades and upgrading 2 deadwood players (Hibberd and Smith) and bypassing Gaz. Looking at overall points for the rest of the season.

This is better explained if you have a quick look at Round 17 trades, page 10, #193.
Would value your opinion on this trade. Don't worry too much if you haven't got the time. I can understand you would be pretty busy and a little jet lagged at present.

Cheers.
Hey there Creeker,
yes, it was a very good night. I look forward to the next one!

So the question becomes:

Hibberd to Ablett

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Hibberd/Smith to Ward/McDonald

You probably need to be of the opinion, that Ablett will be a 130+ player to consider this, so if we say Ablett is about 132, and Hibberd from here is about 88, you are getting around 44 for your trade, and keeping a trade up your sleeve. I would actually add about 6 to 7 to that 44/week Ablett is worth, for the occassions you get to use/loophole Ablett at Captain. So let's say Hibberd to Ablett is worth 50/week.
Hibberd/Smith are probably worth 155/week together.
Ward I will say we need to be a bit careful with.
His scores in winning sides this season are: 175, 140, 131, 130, 122, 109, 106, 99, 83 - 9/1,115 - Ave 124
His scores in losing sides this season are: 110, 109, 102, 101, 84, 82 - 6/588 - Ave 98
2 out of 9 scores below 105 when they win, but only 2 out of 6 above 105 when they lose.
GWS play: Geel(Star), Fre(Sub), Ess(Spot), Port(AO), Syd(Spot), Carl(Spot), Melb(ES)
It's quite possible they win 5, or they win 3 of those games. Let's say 4 to be safe, which on the above figures, has Ward averaging 4 x 124 + 3 x 98 = around 113/game, coincindentally what he has roughly averaged since 2014. I still believe McDonald is being overscored, and that is from a Melbourne supporter, that has seen pretty much every game this season. Admittedly on TV, not live. He has averaged around 87 since round 8, so let's give him 90, just to be safe. That makes Ward/McDonald worth 203 compared to Hibberd/Smith's 155, a jump of 48/week.
Given Ablett has Captain value, and saves a trade, I think I'd go the Ablett path.
 

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My question to both Rowsus and Creeker is did you then share top notch late night SC banter??? hahahahaha :)
Well..... you know that horrible state you can get in, where you either should have had 4 or 5 more beers, so you are so drunk, you have no choice but to fall asleep, or 2 or 3 beers less, so you don't have that blaaahh :p stomach that stops you sleeping well? That's where I was at, sleeping, but not deeply or peacefully, when Creeker rang.
It went something like:
*phone rings on chair, just out of reach from bed (my bad!)
Wha'...... who could that be?! It's Creeker!
Rowsus "Hi Pete"
Creeker "Sorry mate, rang you by mistake!"
Rowsus "That's ok" - my head buzzing, stomach still feeling like cr@p.
Creeker "I was checking my missed calls, and called you accidently"
Rowsus "That's ok mate, I'll see you next time I'm here"
Creeker "It was a good night, and good to meet you all"
Rowsus "Yeah, it was, I enjoyed it"
Creeker "Oh well, hopefully see you next time you're out here, bye"
Rowsus "Yeah, I hope so too. Bye"
I then collapsed back into bed.

I hate that, "I should have drunk more, or I should have drunk less" cr@ppy stomach feeling!
 
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Hey there Creeker,
yes, it was a very good night. I look forward to the next one!

So the question becomes:

Hibberd to Ablett

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Hibberd/Smith to Ward/McDonald

You probably need to be of the opinion, that Ablett will be a 130+ player to consider this, so if we say Ablett is about 132, and Hibberd from here is about 88, you are getting around 44 for your trade, and keeping a trade up your sleeve. I would actually add about 6 to 7 to that 44/week Ablett is worth, for the occassions you get to use/loophole Ablett at Captain. So let's say Hibberd to Ablett is worth 50/week.
Hibberd/Smith are probably worth 155/week together.
Ward I will say we need to be a bit careful with.
His scores in winning sides this season are: 175, 140, 131, 130, 122, 109, 106, 99, 83 - 9/1,115 - Ave 124
His scores in losing sides this season are: 110, 109, 102, 101, 84, 82 - 6/588 - Ave 98
2 out of 9 scores below 105 when they win, but only 2 out of 6 above 105 when they lose.
GWS play: Geel(Star), Fre(Sub), Ess(Spot), Port(AO), Syd(Spot), Carl(Spot), Melb(ES)
It's quite possible they win 5, or they win 3 of those games. Let's say 4 to be safe, which on the above figures, has Ward averaging 4 x 124 + 3 x 98 = around 113/game, coincindentally what he has roughly averaged since 2014. I still believe McDonald is being overscored, and that is from a Melbourne supporter, that has seen pretty much every game this season. Admittedly on TV, not live. He has averaged around 87 since round 8, so let's give him 90, just to be safe. That makes Ward/McDonald worth 203 compared to Hibberd/Smith's 155, a jump of 48/week.
Given Ablett has Captain value, and saves a trade, I think I'd go the Ablett path.
Many Thanks Rowsus.
Pretty much confirms my thoughts also. Using just the 1 trade and having another VC/C option is gold at this stage of the season.
Wow, plenty of research there. Always amazed how you can produce these kind of stats with so little notice.
Will trade in Gaz then sit for awhile, await the upcoming LTI's that are sure to happen.
 
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Well..... you know that horrible state you can get in, where you either should have had 4 or 5 more beers, so you are so drunk, you have no choice but to fall asleep, or 2 or 3 beers less, so you don't have that blaaahh :p stomach that stops you sleeping well? That's where I was at, sleeping, but not deeply or peacefully, when Creeker rang.
It went something like:
*phone rings on chair, just out of reach from bed (my bad!)
Wha'...... who could that be?! It's Creeker!
Rowsus "Hi Pete"
Creeker "Sorry mate, rang you by mistake!"
Rowsus "That's ok" - my head buzzing, stomach still feeling like cr@p.
Creeker "I was checking my missed calls, and called you accidently"
Rowsus "That's ok mate, I'll see you next time I'm here"
Creeker "It was a good night, and good to meet you all"
Rowsus "Yeah, it was, I enjoyed it"
Creeker "Oh well, hopefully see you next time you're out here, bye"
Rowsus "Yeah, I hope so too. Bye"
I then collapsed back into bed.

I hate that, "I should have drunk more, or I should have drunk less" cr@ppy stomach feeling!
Yep, that's the way I recall the conversation.
My initial thoughts when the phone started dialing was Rowsus will be thinking, " Ahh, Creeker has mucked up here. There is no way known I'm going into town to bail him out."
 
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with Gray sitting in your Mids, Griffen at M8, and a potential problem in Beams to come, I think I would be trying to add a bit of strength/depth there. Unless you are confident you can improve Hibberd by 15-20 points, I would probably look at Griffen to Hannebery.
Thank you for the prompt reply. I agree that Griffen would be the weakest link in the 22. I could arguably get the same gains by going Hibberd to Hodge, but I can't really justify spending $570k on Hodge.

I suppose what I wanted to know was whether it would be best to (a) downgrade a rookie and upgrade Griffen to Hanneberry (and retain 22 premiums), or (b) stick Griffen on the bench, and use 2 rookies for an upgrade / downgrade to get a 23rd premium. With this, I would fall short of Hanneberry, but could still grab someone like Mundy.

In either case, I still need to use 2 trades no matter what, it's just the thought of a 23rd premium is mighty tempting.

Thanks again in advance of any final feedback.
 

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Hi Rowsus,

Sounds like you had a good trip to Melbourne. Saw you even ventured to one of my locals Doyles in Mordialloc.

My choices last week didn't quite work out as planned, happy to have Hodge in but getting rid of Oxley was ill timed.

Curious as to who you would trade for Ablett out of Griffen, Wines and Selwood. I am leaning towards Griffen with his yo yo scoring. Has been better last few weeks though.

Also to get Ablett I have to downgrade either Krakouer or Lever to Goddard/Harmes. It was going to be Lever but now that Krak is out for 2 weeks should he make way.

Any thoughts much appreciated.

PS - have 9 trades and $177,600 to spend.
 
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Hey Rowsus, I posted this on the Trades page, but I am really keen to hear your thoughts on my current situation with trades.

Am currently ranked 1,037 and my aim is to finish top 1000 by season's end. $125,700 in the bank, 4 trades remaining at the beginning of this week.
In my cash league I am currently ranked 5th and am playing 3rd (who I'm equal on points with), winner should finish top 4, loser will most likely finish 5-8th.
I have contemplated these options for this week:

A) Saad to Kelly/Malceski and Wines to Ablett

B) Mckenzie to H.Goddard and Saad to Hodge

C) Smith to Kelly/Malceski

D) Do nothing

Thanks in advance Rowsus, always appreciate the time you take out of your day to reply to these posts :)
 

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Thank you for the prompt reply. I agree that Griffen would be the weakest link in the 22. I could arguably get the same gains by going Hibberd to Hodge, but I can't really justify spending $570k on Hodge.

I suppose what I wanted to know was whether it would be best to (a) downgrade a rookie and upgrade Griffen to Hanneberry (and retain 22 premiums), or (b) stick Griffen on the bench, and use 2 rookies for an upgrade / downgrade to get a 23rd premium. With this, I would fall short of Hanneberry, but could still grab someone like Mundy.

In either case, I still need to use 2 trades no matter what, it's just the thought of a 23rd premium is mighty tempting.

Thanks again in advance of any final feedback.
Happy to help.
I can see what you're thinking, and as you are looking at a potential LTI/early finish with Beams, the 23rd Prem looks attractive. It could come at a compromise though, as the potential is there for Hannebery to outscore Mundy by 15/week. It still might be the safer option though.
 

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Hi Rowsus,

Sounds like you had a good trip to Melbourne. Saw you even ventured to one of my locals Doyles in Mordialloc.

My choices last week didn't quite work out as planned, happy to have Hodge in but getting rid of Oxley was ill timed.

Curious as to who you would trade for Ablett out of Griffen, Wines and Selwood. I am leaning towards Griffen with his yo yo scoring. Has been better last few weeks though.

Also to get Ablett I have to downgrade either Krakouer or Lever to Goddard/Harmes. It was going to be Lever but now that Krak is out for 2 weeks should he make way.

Any thoughts much appreciated.

PS - have 9 trades and $177,600 to spend.
Hi Saint,
it was a good trip, thanks. Initially I was going to have 3 or 4 trips to Doyles while there, but it only ended up being 2.
I'd go Griffen and Krakouer out. I'm not sure out of Goddard and Harmes who will have the best JS, it's a bit of a guessing game there. Wines and Selwood seem to have more upside, and us Selwood owners will be hoping his indiscretion has spurred him on a bit, now he is back.
 

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Hey Rowsus, I posted this on the Trades page, but I am really keen to hear your thoughts on my current situation with trades.

Am currently ranked 1,037 and my aim is to finish top 1000 by season's end. $125,700 in the bank, 4 trades remaining at the beginning of this week.
In my cash league I am currently ranked 5th and am playing 3rd (who I'm equal on points with), winner should finish top 4, loser will most likely finish 5-8th.
I have contemplated these options for this week:

A) Saad to Kelly/Malceski and Wines to Ablett

B) Mckenzie to H.Goddard and Saad to Hodge

C) Smith to Kelly/Malceski

D) Do nothing

Thanks in advance Rowsus, always appreciate the time you take out of your day to reply to these posts :)
Hey jmack5,
I think to achieve your objectives, you are going to need Ablett. I've spent a bit of time seeing if there were better paths for you to get him, but it looks like Saad to Malceski, and using Wines, is your best route.
 
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Hey Rowsus if you get a minute spare can u check out my team linked and see how I'd go about getting Ablett in. ATM I'm thinking Boston-knight that leaves me 147k and 2 trades.
Cheers mate hope to catch u next time u are back in aus looks like it was a good night.
 
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Hey Rowsus,

I'm glad you had a great time on your return back down under, it was a pitty I was not able to make it to the catch-up, but sounds like all involved had a ripping time!

I'm after some of your advice once again. 3 trades left and $69,000 in Bank. My season hit a bid of a snag last week, in my bit to break into the top 1000, droping from 1300 -> 1900, so I feel it is now make or break time.

Early in the week, following the news of Dayne's injury, I was set on Wallis -> Kelly/Malcheski and Beams -> GAJ, leaving 1 trade and around $70,000 in bank.

I guess, the feeling that I had is that the word injury and Beams has not been a good association in the past, so may be best to deal with him at his highest value and this is the only way I can see getting GAJ into my team.

I could also just do the Wallis -> Kelly/Malcheski for D7 and sit on the cash to deal with Beams when and if he is pulled in for surgery.

Would love too hear your thougnts on my otions?

Thanks in advance!
 

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Rowan,

It was an absolute pleasure to be able to meet and spend some time with you, pity we couldn't snag a win on the horses. Hope the trip was everything you had hoped for!

I've decided to go ALL IN this week to get Ablett into my team. I did consider bringing in Bartel to my forward and moving Higgins back and knocking B Smith back to D7, but this move would jeopardise putting Ablett out of reach. In the end, the decision was based on 'getting the best 22' as opposed to 'getting premium bench cover'. I have 4 trades prior trading and will be moving Wallis and Krakouer out of my team for Ablett and H Goddard.

If you have some time, can you cast your eyes over my team and see whether there are any other options?
 
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Rowsus,

Thanks again for your feedback. I had a question about the Captaincy Loophole in that particular thread, but didn't get an answer.

For this week's games, at this stage, the only non-player I have in my team (aside from Read, who I can't use for the loophole this week, as he plays in the 2nd game, and I don't have any decent HAW / CARL players for VC (Docherty?)) is Kavanagh on my MID bench. Is it worth using him as my loophole, meaning that I won't be able to use any genuine EMG coverage for my MID line? Would hate to risk the prospect of a donut at this stage of the season. Or do I simply trust in Ablett / Goldstein for the C?

Thoughts?
 

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Hey Rowsus if you get a minute spare can u check out my team linked and see how I'd go about getting Ablett in. ATM I'm thinking Boston-knight that leaves me 147k and 2 trades.
Cheers mate hope to catch u next time u are back in aus looks like it was a good night.
Hey Btj,
I don't like using 3 trades to get any player.
I don't think there is a lot between Hibberd and Oxley, and there's not a lot between Bont and Ziebell.
I know it leaves your Def structure a bit weaker, but I'd choose one from each of those 2 Groups, and get Ablett that way, leaving you a trade up your sleeve.
My choice would be Hibberd/Bontempelli to Ablett/(Knight?).
It comes down to depth on bench, versus strength in 22.
 
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