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Which of the following apply to your current team? (multiple choice)

  • Starting with Libba (no Crouch or JOM)

    Votes: 92 38.7%
  • Starting with Libba + Crouch (no JOM)

    Votes: 69 29.0%
  • Starting with Libba + Crouch + JOM

    Votes: 15 6.3%
  • Full GnR (no mid pricers)

    Votes: 19 8.0%
  • GnR + Libba (1 mid pricer in Libba only)

    Votes: 44 18.5%
  • Set and forget rucks

    Votes: 97 40.8%
  • Ruck cover (R/F in your forwardline)

    Votes: 45 18.9%
  • Spending big (starting 3 or more of Shaw/Fyfe/Goldy/Lids/Joey)

    Votes: 37 15.5%
  • Spending less (starting 1 or less of Shaw/Fyfe/Goldy/Lids/Joey)

    Votes: 70 29.4%
  • I will be starting with all 4 of Fyfe/ Ablett/Pendles/Rockliff

    Votes: 46 19.3%
  • Planning to start a POD no one has spoken about

    Votes: 43 18.1%

  • Total voters
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By this Barlow = lock for you?

I'm on the fence tbh, but looking at most of the RMT teams he's in the majority of them.
Yeah a lock for me mate.

Can't see him averaging any less than 95 and could average up to 105 I reckon.
 
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Team Number 4!

Def: KK, Bartel, Birchall, Yarran
Mid: Pendlebery, Ablett, Hannebery, Priddis, Rockliff, Liberatore, (expensive rook like Parish or Hopper)
Ruck: S.Martin, Lobbe
Fwd: D.Martin, Cyril Rioli, Merrett, Budweizer

Can still upgrade Yarran to Smith depending on who does better in preseason.

Love Cyril and think this will be his best year yet.

Deep midfield...

WHat do people think?
 
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Ok an early draft:

Def: Laird, Rich, B.Smith, Seedsman, Tucker, Bonner, Hibbard, Collins
Mid: Pendles, Hannebury, Beams, Sloane, T.Mitchell, Rocky, Libba, Parish, Fiorini, Keays, Balic
Ruck: Jacobs, NicNat, Loersch
Fwd: Dusty, Merrett, Luenberger, West, Milera, Kerridge, Petracca, Brown

Any thoughts or ideas appreciated!
 

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Yeah a lock for me mate.

Can't see him averaging any less than 95 and could average up to 105 I reckon.
Yeah i don't disagree with that. I think it's a role thing that i don't like about him or something maybe from one of the few games i saw him play last year that turned me off him. He's in my team more because of his price and i won't allow myself to gamble on a Merrett type over him...which is not a bad thing i suppose.
 
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Any reason for no Bartel, Libba, Dusty or Barlow?
Bartel = Think he's really nearing the end, might be wrong but I think he will have a poor year.

Libba = Was out of him and Crouch for that M5 spot and took Crouch because I think he will have a real good start too the year. something Libba might struggle with, purely because the ACL will be hard to come back from

Dusty: Already have a few tigers in the team, Think Franklin and Tippett will both go huge this year so they are locks atm, and Luenberger and Tippett can swap from ruck and forward

Barlow: Think he will average about 90 so is a no from me.
 

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Hello All

Your expert advice would be appreciated here

Defenders
J. Bartel
M. Williams
N. Malceski
J. Thurlow
M. Dea
M. Brown

Midfielders
S. Pendlebury
G. Ablett
T. Mitchell
T. Rockliff
O. Wines
T. Liberatore
B. Crouch
L. Sumner

Rucks
S. Martin
M. Lobbe

Forwards
D. Martin
H. Bennell
M. Barlow
Z. Merrett
S. Kerridge
C. Petracca

Not sure if Buddy should be in there instead of either Bennell, Barlow or Merrett

Thoughts??
 
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FJ, really nice team and a bit different from many I've seen so far. Really like Williams selection in the back line, something I'm considering myself, and Thurlow a POD with some upside. Having both a risk but I would think just about everyone is taking a back line risk this year given the paucity of well priced options. Mids also similar to me although I would take O'Meara over Crouch. Looking back at JOMs numbers when he last played a full season he seems to have a higher ceiling than Crouch (correct me if I'm wrong).

Rucks I'd have to say I'm firmly in the NO camp on Lobbe, but looking at the rest of your side you probably need him from a pure budget perspective. Forwards again nice but you may need to consider a replacement for Bennell who seems as though is a serious risk to miss games in the first part of the year. Perhaps Tippett for ruck cover ?
 

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Hello All

Your expert advice would be appreciated here

Defenders
J. Bartel
M. Williams
N. Malceski
J. Thurlow
M. Dea
M. Brown

Midfielders
S. Pendlebury
G. Ablett
T. Mitchell
T. Rockliff
O. Wines
T. Liberatore
B. Crouch
L. Sumner

Rucks
S. Martin
M. Lobbe

Forwards
D. Martin
H. Bennell
M. Barlow
Z. Merrett
S. Kerridge
C. Petracca

Not sure if Buddy should be in there instead of either Bennell, Barlow or Merrett

Thoughts??
Hi fjholden, welcome to the site.

DEF:
Bartel solid. I like the unique pick in Marley williams, I think he could be a great pick looking at his numbers his averages are gradually going up. Eski is an iffy pick, he could be a great pick but without his Sydney brigade helping him, I'm not sure he can get back to his best. Jackson Thurlow is a definite no, he had 3 maybe 4 great games out of 19 though. Dea could only average 49 where he played his most games (14) for the tigers and at premium rookie price i'd steer clear.

MID:
First off, your mids look powerful but maybe a little too powerful. Too many premium mids and not enough rookies on the field to make you enough cash. I would chop one of Pendles/GAJ/Rocky/Titchell/Wines and one of Libba/Crouch to rookies.

RUC:
Stef martin a great choice. Lobbe could definitely be a good choice and port has a good early draw too.

FWD:
Dusty gun. Bennelll I think isn't back to full training yet and is too injury-prone so you may want to re-think that pick. Barlow is underpriced for what he can do, just hoping he can get back to more mid time but a good pick. Merrett could be a solid pick and could be a great pick in an Essendon outfit who are down on their gun players. Buddy & Bennell will prob miss just as many games as each other but atm Buddy is apparently training the house down while Bennell is not back to full training... therefore I would swap Bennell out for Buddy.

Overall:
I would chop 1 or 2 of your players in the mids and bolster up ur backline and the old switcheroo with Bennell and Buddy.
 
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Thanks THCLT for the feedback.

I have made a few tweaks to my team. A few PODs lol.

At this stage I believe we will have a large number of defensive rookies to start with so I am going with 3-0-5.

Laird and Docherty I feel will improve +5 on last season and Bartel should go close to 100 giving me 3 keepers in the backline.

I have swapped KK to Docherty from my previous team as I feel he has more upside and the ball will definately be in Carlton's 2nd Half a lot this season ;) I also am slightly worried about the impact of returning GC players and potentially Malceski rebounding from a shocker last year impacting on KK's room for growth.

Mids I have traded out Libba for Wines who I believe will break out this year. I had Wines last year and I will kick myself if I don't start him as Ports draw to open the season is super.

Rucks ... sticking with Gawn. His season last year and hit outs were signs of bigger things to come IMO. He is training the house down and was given a training award by Roos a few weeks ago which speaks volumes in my book.

I have dropped Barlow for Lids. Lids has averaged 110+ since round 13 2014. Take out Lids injury affected scores at the start of last season and he would have scored more. Barlow from the reports I have been reading has been training preseason as a HFF which doesn't sit well with me for a 500k player.

Yes a lot of my strategy will depend upon getting enough decent rookies onfield but I'm hoping for a big NAB cup from my rookies with Cuningham (Car(Wing)) and Dunkley (Dogs (no Crameri)) my early tips to get a start Rd 1 based on their preseason.

14 Keepers (X - Fingers)

Balls to the wall ;)

 

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FJ, really nice team and a bit different from many I've seen so far. Really like Williams selection in the back line, something I'm considering myself, and Thurlow a POD with some upside. Having both a risk but I would think just about everyone is taking a back line risk this year given the paucity of well priced options. Mids also similar to me although I would take O'Meara over Crouch. Looking back at JOMs numbers when he last played a full season he seems to have a higher ceiling than Crouch (correct me if I'm wrong).

Rucks I'd have to say I'm firmly in the NO camp on Lobbe, but looking at the rest of your side you probably need him from a pure budget perspective. Forwards again nice but you may need to consider a replacement for Bennell who seems as though is a serious risk to miss games in the first part of the year. Perhaps Tippett for ruck cover ?
Cheers Jonesy

Yeah I'm hearing some positive words about Williams. Looking like getting some midfield time and becoming more of general for the pies off HB so I thought I would take a punt on him at this stage.

I am not fully sold on Thurlow although, like Williams, I have heard that he is flying down at Catland.

I understand that JOM just started running on grass and has been on a heavily restricted program, so that's why O have stayed away. His injury is degenerative from what I understand and hence why I am staying clear of him. You are right though when you say that fully fit his numbers and ceiling are greater than crouch.

Yeah Lobbe was purely a budget pick and especially with Ryder now out of the equation I think he has something to prove and will go bang and be a bargain.

Bennell is always a worry and is a risk/reward prospect. I think by round 1 though, buddy will be there instead of him.

I may downgrade Bennell to Buddy and then upgrade Thurlow to Yeo or something like that

Thanks for the feedback pal. Much appreciated
 

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Thanks THCLT for the feedback.

I have made a few tweaks to my team. A few PODs lol.

At this stage I believe we will have a large number of defensive rookies to start with so I am going with 3-0-5.

Laird and Docherty I feel will improve +5 on last season and Bartel should go close to 100 giving me 3 keepers in the backline.

I have swapped KK to Docherty from my previous team as I feel he has more upside and the ball will definately be in Carlton's 2nd Half a lot this season ;) I also am slightly worried about the impact of returning GC players and potentially Malceski rebounding from a shocker last year impacting on KK's room for growth.

Mids I have traded out Libba for Wines who I believe will break out this year. I had Wines last year and I will kick myself if I don't start him as Ports draw to open the season is super.

Rucks ... sticking with Gawn. His season last year and hit outs were signs of bigger things to come IMO. He is training the house down and was given a training award by Roos a few weeks ago which speaks volumes in my book.

I have dropped Barlow for Lids. Lids has averaged 110+ since round 13 2014. Take out Lids injury affected scores at the start of last season and he would have scored more. Barlow from the reports I have been reading has been training preseason as a HFF which doesn't sit well with me for a 500k player.

Yes a lot of my strategy will depend upon getting enough decent rookies onfield but I'm hoping for a big NAB cup from my rookies with Cuningham (Car(Wing)) and Dunkley (Dogs (no Crameri)) my early tips to get a start Rd 1 based on their preseason.

14 Keepers (X - Fingers)

Balls to the wall ;)

Really like this side mate. It's very much similar with what I'd love to go with, if we get enough rookies on the park.
Love the 5 absolute SC jets in the midfield, and whilst I'm not personally going with Wines, I can see why you have him.
 

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Hi fjholden, welcome to the site.

DEF:
Bartel solid. I like the unique pick in Marley williams, I think he could be a great pick looking at his numbers his averages are gradually going up. Eski is an iffy pick, he could be a great pick but without his Sydney brigade helping him, I'm not sure he can get back to his best. Jackson Thurlow is a definite no, he had 3 maybe 4 great games out of 19 though. Dea could only average 49 where he played his most games (14) for the tigers and at premium rookie price i'd steer clear.

MID:
First off, your mids look powerful but maybe a little too powerful. Too many premium mids and not enough rookies on the field to make you enough cash. I would chop one of Pendles/GAJ/Rocky/Titchell/Wines and one of Libba/Crouch to rookies.

RUC:
Stef martin a great choice. Lobbe could definitely be a good choice and port has a good early draw too.

FWD:
Dusty gun. Bennelll I think isn't back to full training yet and is too injury-prone so you may want to re-think that pick. Barlow is underpriced for what he can do, just hoping he can get back to more mid time but a good pick. Merrett could be a solid pick and could be a great pick in an Essendon outfit who are down on their gun players. Buddy & Bennell will prob miss just as many games as each other but atm Buddy is apparently training the house down while Bennell is not back to full training... therefore I would swap Bennell out for Buddy.

Overall:
I would chop 1 or 2 of your players in the mids and bolster up ur backline and the old switcheroo with Bennell and Buddy.
Cheers for the feedback Tamuhawk

Yeah I agree that the buddy and Bennell switcharoo is in order.

That will mean Thurlow can come out for Yeo or someone like that

Eski is a risk but heard he is training well and at that price for a bloke of his skills, I can't ignore it

I'm happy with the mids except for crouch as he has a tough run early on and I may look at polec instead. Thoughts on that??

Thanks heaps for the feedback. Much appreciated and I will certainly look at what someone with your success says that's for sure.

Cheers
 

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Ok an early draft:

Def: Laird, Rich, B.Smith, Seedsman, Tucker, Bonner, Hibbard, Collins
Mid: Pendles, Hannebury, Beams, Sloane, T.Mitchell, Rocky, Libba, Parish, Fiorini, Keays, Balic
Ruck: Jacobs, NicNat, Loersch
Fwd: Dusty, Merrett, Luenberger, West, Milera, Kerridge, Petracca, Brown

Any thoughts or ideas appreciated!
Hi Drew - a few thoughts from me below. Probably the key thing is that I think your mids are a bit too heavy, and your forwards and defs quite risky as a result.

- Your defs have two seasons at keeper level between them. Guys like Bartel, McVeigh and Simpson have comfortably more than that by themselves - I'd try to get one or more of those types in, especially if you want to make the odd risky pick elsewhere. Personally I'd get rid of Rich first - he's played seven seasons, but none of them have reached keeper level. I've owned him in the past, and I'm just not sure he's as good a (SC) player as he looks like he should be.

- I have personally wondered whether Laird, Smith and Seedsman can all score well in the same team. You should know best - do you think they can, or is this something of a hedge?

- Personally, I'm always wary of picking players from Collingwood (I'm a Pies fan) and you do have quite a few Crows. You may well have better insight into them, but I'd just suggest holding them to a higher standard to ensure their merits warrant selection.

- Your mids look fantastic, but I think your side would be better served if you took some cash from there and reinvested it. I'd simply cut one of your premium mids. Personally, I'd be picking out of Hannebery (not very proven), Sloane (tag uncertainty, tough draw, possibly better upgrade target) and Mitchell (not proven, and the coach presumably still dislikes him! :) ).

- I see you don't have Ablett, so I'd look to get him in. I appreciate that he's had injuries, but he's also the best SC scorer in the comp, and he's very cheap. Last year he averaged around 134 when not injured. At a minimum, you could flick Beams for him - Beams misses about one game in three (literally), so in my view his value to our sides is massively eroded, because his position in the team will be filled by M9 or M10 a handful of times a season, dragging down his PIT average substantially.

- Your rucks look great, so long as you're okay with the Crows' early draw and Sauce's FTB tendencies. I'm guessing you're all over this as an Adelaide fan. Jacobs is ultra durable, and I like NicNat for a bit of upside, while still being pretty solid. Nice work.

- Your forwards look quite light as well. Dusty is very solid, but Merrett is a speculative pick, and Leuey is currently injured as I understand it, while West appears no certainty to be best 22 based on more informed commentary than I could offer. If you want an R-F, I quite like Tippett, who could easily outscore his 2015 average if he gets more ruck time (see Rowsus' write up), and even if he doesn't, he should contribute at least an extra 5ppg, maybe more, in ruck cover value over the year - which would get him to mid 90s or above, and at a sub 90 price. Boomer would be another cheapish option as a potential keeper, and I personally like Wells if you don't mind a risky pick with a lot of upside. He's really just over rookie price, so the downside is somewhat reduced, and the Roos have the best draw in the comp early on, and have tweaked their training to perform better early in the season ... sounds good for a stepping stone pick to me :)

Good luck!
 

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Cheers for the feedback Tamuhawk

Yeah I agree that the buddy and Bennell switcharoo is in order.

That will mean Thurlow can come out for Yeo or someone like that

Eski is a risk but heard he is training well and at that price for a bloke of his skills, I can't ignore it

I'm happy with the mids except for crouch as he has a tough run early on and I may look at polec instead. Thoughts on that??

Thanks heaps for the feedback. Much appreciated and I will certainly look at what someone with your success says that's for sure.

Cheers
Hopefully with the eagles key backs coming back it will allow Yeo to go on a wing. Yeo is also however a flat-track bully and scores 50% higher in his wins than losses. His Qualifying final against my hawks was absoutely amazing. the loss to the hawks in the GF he went missing. He had 7 of his games where he scored below 70 and we can't use injuries to the backline as an excuse for all of those games. The eagles also has a tough early draw which you may want to have a look at.

I still believe that you should have a rookie at M7. Having 7 premo/mid-priced players in ur mids could be great early on for scoring wise, but it could lead to not enough cash generation and the midfield is generally the best position to get cash from to upgrade your team. However if your still wanting to go down this path, I would still prefer Crouch over Polec even with his tough start as I even considered Crouch last year when he was priced at $500k but now he's a bargain.
 
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Ok my first team for this season


DEF: Laird,KK,Bartel, rook, Rook, Rook

Mid: Pendles, Ablett, Selwood, Mitchell, Rockliff,Liba Rook,Rook

Ruck: Goldy, Gawn

FWD: Lids, Martin, Barlow, Buddy Rook Rook


Could Downgrade selwood to crouch and upgrade a DEF rookie to Smith
 

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Ok my first team for this season


DEF: Laird,KK,Bartel, rook, Rook, Rook

Mid: Pendles, Ablett, Selwood, Mitchell, Rockliff,Liba Rook,Rook

Ruck: Goldy, Gawn

FWD: Lids, Martin, Barlow, Buddy Rook Rook


Could Downgrade selwood to crouch and upgrade a DEF rookie to Smith
I would do just that seeing as Selwood is in doubt for round 1 after his foot surgery and limited pre-season. Even though I'm not a huge fan of Smith, there isn't much else on offer at that price except maybe Hurn or Eski, so Smith may have to do. Love the Gawn pick. Everything else looks great.
 

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Thanks THCLT for the feedback.

I have made a few tweaks to my team. A few PODs lol.

At this stage I believe we will have a large number of defensive rookies to start with so I am going with 3-0-5.

Laird and Docherty I feel will improve +5 on last season and Bartel should go close to 100 giving me 3 keepers in the backline.

I have swapped KK to Docherty from my previous team as I feel he has more upside and the ball will definately be in Carlton's 2nd Half a lot this season ;) I also am slightly worried about the impact of returning GC players and potentially Malceski rebounding from a shocker last year impacting on KK's room for growth.

Mids I have traded out Libba for Wines who I believe will break out this year. I had Wines last year and I will kick myself if I don't start him as Ports draw to open the season is super.

Rucks ... sticking with Gawn. His season last year and hit outs were signs of bigger things to come IMO. He is training the house down and was given a training award by Roos a few weeks ago which speaks volumes in my book.

I have dropped Barlow for Lids. Lids has averaged 110+ since round 13 2014. Take out Lids injury affected scores at the start of last season and he would have scored more. Barlow from the reports I have been reading has been training preseason as a HFF which doesn't sit well with me for a 500k player.

Yes a lot of my strategy will depend upon getting enough decent rookies onfield but I'm hoping for a big NAB cup from my rookies with Cuningham (Car(Wing)) and Dunkley (Dogs (no Crameri)) my early tips to get a start Rd 1 based on their preseason.

14 Keepers (X - Fingers)

Balls to the wall ;)

Great Team Slip. If there are enough back rookies available I think I will be following this 3-0-5 structure like you, which allows you to be able to afford that extra gun in ur mids. I love Gawny, despite him being a bit of an FTB, I think he could have what it takes to be better himself this year and is worth the punt ... absolute excitement machine when he is on fire! It reminds me of Stefan Martin who I wanted going to pick last year after his 2014 breakout but I never went through with it. (Although stef martin is a possession king for a a ruck, don't let that deter you from picking up Gawny). Love the pick.
 
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Really like this side mate. It's very much similar with what I'd love to go with, if we get enough rookies on the park.
Love the 5 absolute SC jets in the midfield, and whilst I'm not personally going with Wines, I can see why you have him.
Great Team Slip. If there are enough back rookies available I think I will be following this 3-0-5 structure like you, which allows you to be able to afford that extra gun in ur mids. I love Gawny, despite him being a bit of an FTB, I think he could have what it takes to be better himself this year and is worth the punt ... absolute excitement machine when he is on fire! It reminds me of Stefan Martin who I wanted going to pick last year after his 2014 breakout but I never went through with it. (Although stef martin is a possession king for a a ruck, don't let that deter you from picking up Gawny). Love the pick.
Thanks for the feedback. I am not keen on any of the high priced defenders apart from McVeigh who I see as an upgrade target coming off a knee.

If there are not enough quality rookies come season start I may downgrade Wines to Libba/O'Meara.

Gawn may make or break me but a ruck always bobs up and I believe his time has come especially with the Dees mid on the rise. This is the first preseason Gawn has been injury free in a while.

At this stage it comes down to available rookies and injuries prior to round 1.
 
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Okay lads - first real attempt.

Feel free to tear it a new one. Rookies just placeholders obviously.

I'm absolutely lost in the rucks. I can barely find a ruck that will maintain his average this year, of all the premiums. Which is why I've gone discount.

 
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