Opinion Rate My Team

Which of the following apply to your current team? (multiple choice)

  • Starting with Libba (no Crouch or JOM)

    Votes: 92 38.7%
  • Starting with Libba + Crouch (no JOM)

    Votes: 69 29.0%
  • Starting with Libba + Crouch + JOM

    Votes: 15 6.3%
  • Full GnR (no mid pricers)

    Votes: 19 8.0%
  • GnR + Libba (1 mid pricer in Libba only)

    Votes: 44 18.5%
  • Set and forget rucks

    Votes: 97 40.8%
  • Ruck cover (R/F in your forwardline)

    Votes: 45 18.9%
  • Spending big (starting 3 or more of Shaw/Fyfe/Goldy/Lids/Joey)

    Votes: 37 15.5%
  • Spending less (starting 1 or less of Shaw/Fyfe/Goldy/Lids/Joey)

    Votes: 70 29.4%
  • I will be starting with all 4 of Fyfe/ Ablett/Pendles/Rockliff

    Votes: 46 19.3%
  • Planning to start a POD no one has spoken about

    Votes: 43 18.1%

  • Total voters
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Bit of a different structure here with a stacked midfield and a few POD's around the ground.


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Defence- Stock standard picks of Bartel and KK. POD selection of Langdon hoping he will play as an intercepting loose man this year and the rest rookies if 5 appear. Will be at least 2 or 3 Essendon options available. Want Shaw and McVeigh but reckon I can get them cheaper and the D6 spot will be decided when I get a clear read on Yeo, Laird, Smith, Birchall and Docherty's roles.
Midfield- Stacked and will generate most of the points. Danger, Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett and Rocky will be the top 5 averaging players this year in my opinion and TMitch is a chance to join them while Libba is too cheap to ignore. The current lack of outstanding midfield rookie options is also another factor in my structure.
Rucks- Bit risky, Mummy is a gun when on the park but it is just whether he can stay on the field and I'm hoping to use Lobbe as the stepping stone to Goldy. Mummy to Stef is a back up plan.
Forwards- Two safe picks in Dusty and Barlow, a POD premium of my boy Sam Gray and two 200k players in Anderson and Simpkin who should score well and generate cash and the placeholder rookies for now. Want Deledio and Dahlhaus but believe I can also get them cheaper and the final spot will be between a plethora of options (Montagna, Bennell, Robinson, Bell, Zerrett, D Smith, Greene, Buddy, Tippett)

Keen to hear thoughts although I realise this won't be everyone's cup of tea.
I find the 'stock standard pick of KK' an interesting comment. I know he's popular but do you consider him a lock?

Langdon also stood out. I recall the leader had him or one of the leaders had him for a while last year. Very unique and the general consensus was he was a bit of an odd pick although he did manage to score well on the odd week. If he can become this year's Rance/Tmac, he could become a very nice POD for you.

The stacked midfield hasn't especially left you looking too vulnerable structure wise but has left you with a few players still to make the next step up so you could potentially be stuck with a few negative PODs. I guess it's the difference between paying full price for players and taking players on potential.

I actually get the feeling this might be a popular-ish structure which wouldn't have worked in previous years but with the discounted super premo midfielders it's become possible.
 
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Bit of a different structure here with a stacked midfield and a few POD's around the ground.

Keen to hear thoughts although I realise this won't be everyone's cup of tea.
I'd be wary of stacking the midfield. Even though it earns us the most points it is where we find our best cash cows and because of the high starting price of midfield premiums it is the line where you can find the best deals for upgrades. It is also the hardest line to create a point of difference because there are more good players to choose from. You will probably get off to a good start but start falling behind coaches who have manipulated the money in the midfield better.
 

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My immediate thoughts are that by stacking your midfield so heavily you have compromised each of the other lines way too much. Playing 3 rookie priced players on field in the backs and forwards is dangerous. Not having one of Goldstein, Martin or Jacobs may also hurt you down the track. The heavily stacked midfield will score you early points, but I'm not sure how you will generate your cash to improve as weeks go on. The sides that I have liked most have gone for 4 top premiums and a Liberatore type as their midfield structure. Hope this helps!
Do you feel 3-0-5 defence is too risky? Personally i've been looking at the rookies and i feel like they might be ok this year. I'm possibly clutching at straws here and looking for some reassurance! :D

Your post read very true to me, I ran a 3-0-5 defence last year with a stacked midfield and did run into some problems as cash generation slowed up but i put that down to a couple of rookie selection errors (trading Cripps out yikes) and jumping on the wrong horse premium wise.
 
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Sound reasoning and all calculated risks which are decisions we'll all need to make at some stage. I feel you're a touch light on in the forwardline as i'm not confident we'll get the rookies we need to run 3-0-5 or 3-1-4 with the mid pricer being Wells who's an injury risk..and Tippett who has not proven to be especially durable over the years as well.

Also noticed no Gaz. Any particular reason? I feel anxious without any of Fyfe/Danger in my team..and that would be doubly with Gaz because the absolute masses will be on him. Calculated risks though, we all gotta take 'em!

Ps. I like your POD's :)
I agree. I don't love my forward line, but I don't love a lot of the forwards right now.. That's the problem! Buddy keeps coming in and out but I'm finding it hard to pass on Tippett's DPP status. I know a lot of people got stuck with Belly last year, but I don't think it's the same kind of risk. Bellchambers sucks IMO lol.

No Gaz makes me extremely nervous! My logic at the moment is that he's almost 32 and is coming off two injury plagued seasons. They aren't soft tissue injuries so he's not necessarily a "risk" in that regard, but he's averaged half a season the past two years. He didn't look right with the shoulder at the start of the year and now he is coming off a knee issue. I'm wondering if it's bad luck or if age is catching up with him. I also wonder if he will be as much of a one man show with a few other Gold Coast guns to return (Prestia, O'Mera, Swallow).

It's well known Gazza doesn't take the anti inflamatories and likes to go down a more natural path. If he's starting to feel the wear and tear I'd rather have someone who will do everything possible to get out on the park.

** All of the above seems stupid because it's Ablett, but of the four "premiums" in Danger, Ablett, Fyfe, Pendles I think Danger and Pendles seem more durable right now. In the above team I'd have to decide if I want to give up Mitchell or Ward (or perhaps Libba).
 

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All great comments guys.

@fatboy64, slightly concerned about the potential damage not having Goldy could do, but he will nearly be my first upgrade. If Lobbe can make a quick 60-100k and Goldy drops 50-100k I see that as a win providing it hasn't costed me a huge amount of points. Also at the moment there is not many midfield rookies that stand out, obviously that could change during the NAB but with guys like Petracca, Kerridge, Anderson, Brown available in the forwards and backs I see that as a great money making area which hasn't always been apparent in previous seasons. Always seemed to be a lack of quality forward cash cows.

@IDIG, I'm a huge fan of KK and I'm sort of disappointed he is so popular. I had him in my draft team last year and loved him. He seems like the type of player who doesn't need huge numbers to score well because he uses the ball beautifully. He always seems to find a way to get involved and I think the Suns will try to use him off half back to use his kicking skills. It does rely on guys like Langdon and Sam Gray stepping up but I believe they are more than capable of taking that next step and guys like Anderson and Simpkin scoring well and making cash.

I have little to no confidence in the majority of defenders and can't decide between all the forward options while I'm extremely confident in what I'll get from my midfield week in week out.
 
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My immediate thoughts are that by stacking your midfield so heavily you have compromised each of the other lines way too much. Playing 3 rookie priced players on field in the backs and forwards is dangerous. Not having one of Goldstein, Martin or Jacobs may also hurt you down the track. The heavily stacked midfield will score you early points, but I'm not sure how you will generate your cash to improve as weeks go on. The sides that I have liked most have gone for 4 top premiums and a Liberatore type as their midfield structure. Hope this helps!
Just as a point of order - this makes absolutely no sense. It's in error to think too regimented in terms of lines, Fwd, Def, Mid etc... Your team scores points as a collective. Not by line. Having a "weak" line just means your that another line is stronger. Everyone spends the same amount of cash. Yes, I understand that there might not be the opporunity to start 3 Def or Fwd rookies- but that's another conversation altogether.

Saying that a heavy midfield means you'll struggle to generate cash just doesn't add up. If you've got the same amount of Guns and Rookies in your squad as a team that's evenly balanced across all lines, you'll generate exactly the same amount of cash. (Pending performance of course, Mid rookies might go slightly better)

Not having a go at you personally - I just find it odd when people comment on the relative strength of a "Line". If there was 8 gilt edge rookies available in the Def line, then you'd be well served to start with 8 rookies, and load up with Premiums elsewhere. If there was no relevant Fwd rookies starting, then starting with 6 Forward Premiums on the field is the right option.

At the end of the day, Rookies determine the amount of premiums we have in each line. Not making sure each line is strong on its own.
 
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Just as a point of order - this makes absolutely no sense. It's in error to think too regimented in terms of lines, Fwd, Def, Mid etc... Your team scores points as a collective. Not by line. Having a "weak" line just means your that another line is stronger. Everyone spends the same amount of cash. Yes, I understand that there might not be the opporunity to start 3 Def or Fwd rookies- but that's another conversation altogether.

Saying that a heavy midfield means you'll struggle to generate cash just doesn't add up. If you've got the same amount of Guns and Rookies in your squad as a team that's evenly balanced across all lines, you'll generate exactly the same amount of cash. (Pending performance of course, Mid rookies might go slightly better)

Not having a go at you personally - I just find it odd when people comment on the relative strength of a "Line". If there was 8 gilt edge rookies available in the Def line, then you'd be well served to start with 8 rookies, and load up with Premiums elsewhere. If there was no relevant Fwd rookies starting, then starting with 6 Forward Premiums on the field is the right option.

At the end of the day, Rookies determine the amount of premiums we have in each line. Not making sure each line is strong on its own.
I think he's saying that there are more rookie options in the midfield to generate cash for upgrades in general. Historically the midfield is where most of your reliable point-scoring comes from. A defence rookie is less likely to score as well or make as much cash as a mid-rookie, meaning that you've lost overall cash for upgrades on any line. Defence, in particular is very volatile.

Also, having a '"weak" line, means the another line is stronger", is not true. It completely depends on how you spend that money. That's exactly why the game is so challenging. You're trying to make every line strong in a relative sense - in terms of both scoring and cash generating potential.
 
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The biggest thing I see when I look at the Midfield is that there is no must have Midfield rookies. There is Brown and Hartley in defence and Petracca and Kerridge in the forward line but not one rookie in the mids at the moment that screams must have. Hopper, Parish and Mills look likely and there will be a few that pop up in the NAB for which I'll have 3-4 spots to fit them in which is still a fair bit.
 

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Enjoying the structure/cash generation talk. Here's a very old post regarding where money was made in 2013, not to suggest that will be the same again in 2016 but interesting nonetheless.

Rookies Upgrade Strategy
Thanks to all the previous contributions on this thread discussing strategy and structure. It got me thinking about how well last year's rookies performed, how much money coaches can expect to make by round 8 (when bye rounds start) and subsequently what upgrade options exist. Oz Rules Football raised a good point about how fast can rookies increase in value by bye rounds and the need for a cracking start. Dug through footywire to find the following rookie stats for 2013 rounds 1-7.

Defenders
# Name, R1 price, R7 price, Increase, DNP, Games x average score
1. Goodes, 128K, 331K, ^203K, R6-7, 5x94.2
2. Heath, 115K, 272K, ^157K, N/A, 7x65.0
3. Stevenson,115K, 272K, ^157K, N/A, 7x64.6
4. O'Shea, 168K, 319K, ^151K, N/A, 7x73.6
5. Terlich, 109K, 230K, ^121K, R1, 6x67.3

Comment: Coaches would have been very satisfied having Goodes and O'Shea on the park in terms of scoring. However, we can see that after the top 2 (by average score) rookies, the scores fell away to less than 70.

Top 3 DEF rookies generated 517K profit.
Top 4 DEF rookies generated 668K profit.
Top 5 DEF rookies generated 789K profit.

Midfielders
# Name, R1 price, R7 price, Increase, DNP, Games x average score
1. O'Meara, 115K, 357K, ^242K, N/A, 7x90.0
2. Wines, 169K, 369K, ^200K, N/A, 7x86.4
3. M.Jones, 109K, 290K, ^181K, N/A, 7x72.9
4. Stevens, 176K, 291K, ^115K, R7, 6x65.3
5. Hill, 152K, 266K, ^114K, N/A, 7x56.0

Comment:
Coaches would have been very satisfied having O'Meara and Wines on the park in terms of scoring ability. However, we can see that after the top 2 rookies, the scores fell away significantly. For me, this appears the biggest impact in terms of team structure. The very top midfield rookies earn their way. In my personal opinion, the problem is that there are too few quality MID rookies to stack the midfield in terms of scoring and consequently increasing in value. The challenge for 2014 will be Jack Martin's increased starting price, meaning the end of bargains like O'Meara.

Top 3 MID rookies generated 623K profit.
Top 4 MID rookies generated 738K profit.
Top 5 MID rookies generated 852K profit.

Rucks
# Name, R1 price, R7 price, Increase, DNP, Games x average score
1. Rowe, 115K, 214K, ^99K, 1,6,7, 4x63.5
2. Blicavs, 115K, 211K, ^96K, N/A, 7x54.3
3. Gawn, 115K, 180K, ^65K, R1-3, 4x76.0
4. Daw, 115K, 145K, ^30K, R1-3, 4x68.8

Comment: Gawn the only ruck to average above 70. That said, coaches would have been satisfied having either Blicavs or Rowe on the bench making some money. The question will be whether coaches use R4 spot for floating donut or try to earn another 65-96K with a playing rookie sitting on the bench. It is clear that the rookie rucks played less games and increase less in value than their counterparts. O'Meara's increase was nearly equivalent to 3 ruck rookies!

Top 2 RUC rookies generated 195K profit.
Top 3 RUC rookies generated 260K profit.
Top 4 RUC rookies generated 290K profit.

Forwards
# Name, R1 price, R7 price, Increase, DNP, Games x average score
1. Neade, 115K, 284K, ^169K, N/A, 7x64.0
2. Dwyer, 96K, 250K, ^154K, N/A, 7x68.9
3. Sinclair, 112K, 245K, ^133K, 1+7, 5x64.6
4. Mayes, 164K, 266K, ^102K, R1-2, 5x71.6
5. Macaffer, 128K, 228K, ^100K, R3, 6x58.5

Comment: Mayes the only forward player to average above 70. Coaches would probably be satisfied with Dwyer's and Neade's profit. O'Meara's and Wine's increase was nearly equivalent to 5 forward rookies!

Top 3 FOR rookies generated 456K profit.
Top 4 FOR rookies generated 558K profit.
Top 5 FOR rookies generated 658K profit.

Summary: Coaches have a big hole to plug in 2014 without the benefit of Port Adelaide's rejuvenated side under Ken Hinkley! Last year, Power gave us 3 of top 5 DEF rookies, 2nd MID rookie plus the 1st FOR rookie. Is there a team in 2014 that could do the same? Perhaps the likes of Saint Kilda or Melbourne with new coaches and new opportunities for players.

So how many of last year's top draft rookies appeared above? Only Wines (#7) and Mayes (#8). What happened to the rest? Was amazed to see below results. In my personal opinion, I will stay away from the top 15 draft rookies with the exception of Jack Martin. If he is as good as O'Meara, then he's worth a starting place in my team.

# Name, R1 price, R7 price, Increase, Games x average score
# 1 Whitfield, 199K, 287K, ^88K, 6x73
# 2 O'Rourke - Did Not Play in rounds 1-7
# 3 Plowman, 189K, 189K, zero, 4x42.5
# 4 Toumpas, 184K, 160K, (24K), 3x18.3
# 5 Stringer, 179K, 184K, ^5K, 3x39.0
# 6 Macrae, 174K, 184K, ^10K, 3x42.0
# 9 Vlastuin, 159K, 159K, zero, 3x72.0
#10 Daniher - DNP
#11 Menzel - DNP
#12 Jaksch - DNP
#13 Lonergan, 139K, 139K, zero, 2x47.0
#14 Corr, 134K, 134K, zero, 2x38.0
#15 Garner - DNP


Upgrade options

Stepping stone: This is something I'm considering in 2014. One of my regrets last year was not selecting Moloney in my starting team. His results below show coaches can pay around $350K, earn 100K profit by end of round 7 whilst averaging 100 score. When upgrading, it is easier to upgrade from 466K than from 290K when compared with 3rd best MID rookie, M.Jones. There are similar stepping stone players available in 2014 - for example Daisy if his ankle holds.

Name, R1 price, R7 price, Increase, Games x average score
Moloney, 362K, 466K, ^104K, 7x100.6
M.Jones, 109K, 290K, ^181K, 7x72.9

Hopefully this gives some food for thought in terms of rookies' potential scores, value increases and starting structures.
Summarised below.
Top 3 DEF rookies generated 517K profit.
Top 4 DEF rookies generated 668K profit.
Top 5 DEF rookies generated 789K profit.

Top 3 MID rookies generated 623K profit.
Top 4 MID rookies generated 738K profit.
Top 5 MID rookies generated 852K profit.

Top 2 RUC rookies generated 195K profit.
Top 3 RUC rookies generated 260K profit.
Top 4 RUC rookies generated 290K profit.

Top 3 FOR rookies generated 456K profit.
Top 4 FOR rookies generated 558K profit.
Top 5 FOR rookies generated 658K profit.
 
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Also, having a '"weak" line, means the another line is stronger", is not true. It completely depends on how you spend that money. That's exactly why the game is so challenging. You're trying to make every line strong in a relative sense - in terms of both scoring and cash generating potential.
I disagree- I think it is categorically true. If every team has spent the same amount of cash, and it's all Guns and Rookies - then by definition all teams are equally strong (based off last year's points). And thus by weakening one line, you strengthen another. It's just wealth distribution. Picking the players that are the best value compared to last year's average, well that's the $100,000 question, isn't it.
 

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Leaving rookies out of the team ( the positions are filled with 123k rookies just as a guide )

Defence: Bartel Birchall Rampe Yeo

Midfield: Gary Pendles Rockliff Trelor (Slone) Parker Libba

Rucks: Martin Lobbe

Forwards: Martin Dahlhouse Barlow Franklin

Thoughts? This capper never gets any easier haha
 

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I agree. I don't love my forward line, but I don't love a lot of the forwards right now.. That's the problem! Buddy keeps coming in and out but I'm finding it hard to pass on Tippett's DPP status. I know a lot of people got stuck with Belly last year, but I don't think it's the same kind of risk. Bellchambers sucks IMO lol.

No Gaz makes me extremely nervous! My logic at the moment is that he's almost 32 and is coming off two injury plagued seasons. They aren't soft tissue injuries so he's not necessarily a "risk" in that regard, but he's averaged half a season the past two years. He didn't look right with the shoulder at the start of the year and now he is coming off a knee issue. I'm wondering if it's bad luck or if age is catching up with him. I also wonder if he will be as much of a one man show with a few other Gold Coast guns to return (Prestia, O'Mera, Swallow).

It's well known Gazza doesn't take the anti inflamatories and likes to go down a more natural path. If he's starting to feel the wear and tear I'd rather have someone who will do everything possible to get out on the park.

** All of the above seems stupid because it's Ablett, but of the four "premiums" in Danger, Ablett, Fyfe, Pendles I think Danger and Pendles seem more durable right now. In the above team I'd have to decide if I want to give up Mitchell or Ward (or perhaps Libba).
I'm the same with Buddy, he's in and out of my team and feels like such an obvious pick but at the same time could end us making us all look rather silly.

I haven't wavered on Gaz but have definitely looked at skipping on Libba. I guess the one thing is that you can't have them all and you can sure make an argument to support starting a dozen midfielders so it just becomes a matter of preference and/or timing. I'm really liking Crouch, even with the risks associated with starting him but just don't think i'll be able to squeeze him in.
 

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Leaving rookies out of the team ( the positions are filled with 123k rookies just as a guide )

Defence: Bartel Birchall Rampe Yeo

Midfield: Gary Pendles Rockliff Trelor (Slone) Parker Libba

Rucks: Martin Lobbe

Forwards: Martin Dahlhouse Barlow Franklin

Thoughts? This capper never gets any easier haha
I like this team and the structure.

In defence I'm not sold on Rampe. I think he may need to play too defensive at times which will affect his SC output.

In the mids I would prefer to see Treloar or Parker to be upgraded to Danger if you can manage that.

Rucks and forwards are spot on imo.
 
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My team ATM

Defence- Docherty, Bartel, Birchall, Melceski, R,R,R,R
Mid- Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Rocky, R,R,R,R,R,R
Ruck- Goldy, Lobbe, R
Forward- Lids, Dusty, Barlow, Buddy, R,R,R,R

This doesnt get any easier you can almost make a point for any player

Doch- Inj
Bartel- Inj/Rest
Birchall- Inj
Mal- Inj/Role/Form
Fyfe- Inj
Danger- New club?
pendles- Role
Gaz- Inj/less mid time?
Rocky- Inj
Goldy- Will b rested late
lobbe- unknown with new ruck scoring
Lids- inj/rest
dusty- bound to do something dumb
barlow- role? what ross says and does are two very diff things
buddy- inj/health
 

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I like this team and the structure.

In defence I'm not sold on Rampe. I think he may need to play too defensive at times which will affect his SC output.

In the mids I would prefer to see Treloar or Parker to be upgraded to Danger if you can manage that.

Rucks and forwards are spot on imo.
Not entirely sold on rampe either tbh. Laidler and rampe are vying for the rebounding roll left by shaw and I think rampe is more likely to take that step. He is a pod choice for mine with the nice price and being able to corrective trade if he bottoms out early. I could possibly downgrade trelor to Gibbs and upgrade parker to Danger. Just wonder how his roll will be at the cats, and if we are paying overs for him? Whats your view point on the danger man?
 

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Doch- Inj
Bartel- Inj/Rest
Birchall- Inj
Mal- Inj/Role/Form
Fyfe- Inj
Danger- New club?
pendles- Role
Gaz- Inj/less mid time?
Rocky- Inj
Goldy- Will b rested late
lobbe- unknown with new ruck scoring
Lids- inj/rest
dusty- bound to do something dumb
barlow- role? what ross says and does are two very diff things
buddy- inj/health
Just to edit a couple of your comments:

Fyfe- Inj + Suspension
Rocky- Inj + Suspension
Goldy- Will b rested late (Not necessarily now with a bye between round 23 and finals)
Buddy- inj/health + Suspension
 

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@IDIG, I'm a huge fan of KK and I'm sort of disappointed he is so popular. I had him in my draft team last year and loved him. He seems like the type of player who doesn't need huge numbers to score well because he uses the ball beautifully. He always seems to find a way to get involved and I think the Suns will try to use him off half back to use his kicking skills. It does rely on guys like Langdon and Sam Gray stepping up but I believe they are more than capable of taking that next step and guys like Anderson and Simpkin scoring well and making cash.

I have little to no confidence in the majority of defenders and can't decide between all the forward options while I'm extremely confident in what I'll get from my midfield week in week out.
And I guess if you're gonna take a punt on a premium anywhere it should be in defence. I've chopped and changed it so many times i feel like my team's going backwards but i suppose that's the fun of it all.
 
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Do you feel 3-0-5 defence is too risky? Personally i've been looking at the rookies and i feel like they might be ok this year. I'm possibly clutching at straws here and looking for some reassurance! :D

Your post read very true to me, I ran a 3-0-5 defence last year with a stacked midfield and did run into some problems as cash generation slowed up but i put that down to a couple of rookie selection errors (trading Cripps out yikes) and jumping on the wrong horse premium wise.
I would feel more comfortable with a 4-0-4 backline, even if you consider using either Yeo or Smith at D4 as a potential premium. In JB16's case I was less worried about his backline, because there are several potential rookie priced cash cows there. If you are going to go 3-0-5 the backline is the place, because generally speaking the premiums on that line don't score as highly as the forward premiums.
 
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Just as a point of order - this makes absolutely no sense. It's in error to think too regimented in terms of lines, Fwd, Def, Mid etc... Your team scores points as a collective. Not by line. Having a "weak" line just means your that another line is stronger. Everyone spends the same amount of cash. Yes, I understand that there might not be the opporunity to start 3 Def or Fwd rookies- but that's another conversation altogether.

Saying that a heavy midfield means you'll struggle to generate cash just doesn't add up. If you've got the same amount of Guns and Rookies in your squad as a team that's evenly balanced across all lines, you'll generate exactly the same amount of cash. (Pending performance of course, Mid rookies might go slightly better)

Not having a go at you personally - I just find it odd when people comment on the relative strength of a "Line". If there was 8 gilt edge rookies available in the Def line, then you'd be well served to start with 8 rookies, and load up with Premiums elsewhere. If there was no relevant Fwd rookies starting, then starting with 6 Forward Premiums on the field is the right option.

At the end of the day, Rookies determine the amount of premiums we have in each line. Not making sure each line is strong on its own.
What I think you are missing in my post is that each year the rookies who have scored the best and therefore made you the most money have overwhelmingly come from the midfield. If you miss out on those rookies you will not generate sufficient cash to upgrade your side. If there was a year where all the high scoring rookies were defenders or forwards and not midfielders, then it would make sense that you would change your structure. However, that is highly unlikely, and using my rule of studying the past to predict the future, I stick by my comments. Each to their own though!
 
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I remember reading a post a few years ago about a basic way to build your SC side.
It was posted by someone called Rowsus or something like that.
It goes something like this.

1. Pick your two captains (maybe 3).
2. Fill your side with the best rookies.
3. One by one replace the worst rookie with the best premium until you have no money left.

Easy.
I might try this method in 2016.
:D:cool::D
 
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