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[benderiffic]

Any idea when the draft app will be released? The draft for iPhone just simply doesn't work

 

[Bomber18]

Found this article from last year but I think it is still relevant to 2016.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...4/news-story/4e9579dd2e7aa70f4ff41b2883f5dc55

DEFENDERS

Key stat: Kick-ins

A long-standing myth is that players only score from a kick-in from a behind if they play on by kicking to themselves. This isn’t true — an effective kick-in from the square does earn points, but not as many as a kick in general play.

A kick-in long to the advantage of a teammate is the most rewarded from a SuperCoach perspective. However, an incorrect kick-in that results in a goal square ball up is the most costly, resulting in negative SuperCoach points.

Playing on from a kick-in isn’t worth any points in itself but the resulting disposal is scored as being part of general play.

The No. 1 kick-in player in the competition this season is Heath Shaw with 27, with the Giants retaining possession from 23 of these. Of Shaw’s 27, 19 have been directed short and only four have been to himself. He doesn’t favour any side, with 12 directed to the left, 13 to the right and only two through the corridor region.

Corey Enright has taken the second-most kick-ins of any player (25), with six directed to himself. Robert Murphy rounds out the top three with 22 kick-ins, of which 14 have been retained by the Bulldogs. He has been the most direct player, with eight directed long, while seven have been to himself which ranks second overall behind Bachar Houli’s eight.

BY THE NUMBERS

Jasper Pittard (PA) 17 kick-ins, 94.1% retained

Chris Yarran (Carl) 13 kick-ins, 92.3% retained

Michael Johnson (Frem) 12 kick-ins, 91.7% retained

Heath Shaw (GWS) 27 kick-ins, 85.2% retained

Bachar Houli (Rich) 16 kick-ins, 81.3% retained

Shannon Hurn (WC) 21 kick-ins, 81.0% retained

Daniel Rich (BL) 15 kick-ins, 80.0% retained

Zach Tuohy (Carl) 10 kick-ins, 80.0% retained

Nick Malceski (GC) 14 kick-ins, 78.6% retained

Brendon Goddard (Ess) 9 kick-ins, 77.8% retained

Matthew Suckling (Haw) 8 kick-ins, 75.0% retained

Shane Savage (StK) 19 kick-ins, 73.7% retained

Nick Vlastuin (Rich) 11 kick-ins, 72.7% retained

MIDFIELDERS

Key stat: First Possession to Clearance Percentage

For a midfielder, getting his hands on the ball at a stoppage is more important than the clearance itself. A player is awarded SuperCoach points for the manner in which he wins the ball, whether that’s a loose ball, hard ball or a shark off the opposition ruckman.

That means getting first hands on the ball at a stoppage will earn points for your players even if they are tackled and can’t dispose of it.

A clearance isn’t worth any points in SuperCoach, it is merely a team statistic.

Josh P. Kennedy ranks No. 1 in the competition for first possessions this season with 34 — five more than the next best player Dion Prestia. Kennedy only ranks 12th among the top 20 first possession players for his clearance percentage however (73.5%), while Prestia ranks ninth with 79.3%.

Luke Hodge’s first possession to clearance rate is the highest of the top 20, with 20 of his 21 first possessions generating a clearance (95.2%). Team mate Will Langford is next best with 90.5%, while Matt Priddis comes in third with 88.5%.

At the other end of the spectrum, Dom Tyson’s first possession to clearance rate of 65.2% is the lowest of this group, with Dane Swan, Joel Selwood, Andrew and David Swallow all next worst with 66.7%.

BY THE NUMBERS

Luke Hodge (Haw) 21 first possessions / 95.2% first possession>clearances

Will Langford (Haw) 21 / 90.5%

Matt Priddis (WC) 26 / 88.5%

Ben Cunnington (NM) 23 / 87.0%

Dayne Beams (BL) 27 / 85.2%

Robbie Gray (PA) 26 / 84.6%

David Mundy (Frem) 25 / 84.0%

Lachie Neale (Frem) 21 / 81.0%

Dion Prestia (GC) 29 / 79.3%

Luke Parker (Syd) 24 / 79.2%

Kieren Jack (Syd) 24 / 75.0%

Nat Fyfe (Frem) 28 /75.0%

Josh Kennedy (Syd) 34 / 73.5%

RUCKS

Key stat: Disposals

Dean Cox revolutionised the role of a ruckman, with his ability to cover the ground and link up with teammates his greatest trait.

In SuperCoach, picking a ruckman that can impact the play away from stoppages is a huge bonus and if you look at disposals alone, Stefan Martin ranks No. 1 with an average of 17 per game.

His stocks received a huge boost last round after Matthew Leuenberger was dropped from the side, enabling him to ruck solo against Richmond. Martin’s output has been down somewhat on last season and this was reflected in his price drop this week of $42,200.

Brodie Grundy ranks second for disposals with an average of 16.3 per game. He has lifted his output across the board this season, ranking No. 1 for contested possessions and second for clearances among all ruckmen in the AFL. He has increased his SuperCoach return by 31 points per game — the second-biggest rise of any Collingwood player.

Mark Jamar on the other hand isn’t as suited to SuperCoach compared to the more mobile players, averaging only 6.3 disposals — the fewest of the top 20 players for contests attended per game.

BY THE NUMBERS

Stefan Martin (BL) 17.0 av disposals

Brodie Grundy (Coll) 6.3

Jonathon Ceglar (Haw) 15.7

Todd Goldstein (NM) 15.3

Sam Jacobs (Adel) 14.3

Will Minson (WB) 13.3

Shane Mumford (GWS) 12.7

Ivan Maric (Rich) 12.7

Patrick Ryder (PA) 12.0

Cameron Wood (Carl) 11.7

Nic Naitanui (WC) 11.7

Aaron Sandilands (Frem) 11.0

Zac Smith (GC) 10.7

Tom Bellchambers (Ess) 10.0

FORWARDS

Key stat: Disposals Inside 50

Disposals in the forward and defensive 50 are weighted to score slightly more than touches in the midfield zone, so these touches are crucial to amassing a big SuperCoach score. A player getting his hands on the ball near goal is also likely to be impacting the scoreboard, which means more SuperCoach points.

The top four players for disposals recorded inside the attacking 50 this season are all key forwards, which is no real surprise considering they spend most of their time closer to goal than anyone else. Taylor Walker leads this category with 28, with Jarryd Roughead and Jack Riewoldt next best with 27, while Lane Franklin is a close fourth on 25.

Walker has played closer to goal this year than ever before, winning 56 per cent of his disposals in that zone — his highest percentage since his debut season in 2009. This hasn’t affected his overall disposal output, averaging a career-high 16.7 per game. Walker also leads the competition for marks inside 50 and ranks second only to Franklin for inside-50 targets with 40.

Roughead is the No. 1 SuperCoach forward in the game after three rounds on the back of a career-high average of 125 points per game. He leads the competition for score involvements with 36, six more than any other forward in the competition.

BY THE NUMBERS

Taylor Walker (Adel) 28 forward 50 disposals

Jarryd Roughead (Haw) 27

Jack Riewoldt (Rich) 27

Lance Franklin (Syd) 25

Harley Bennell (GC) 25

Paul Puopolo (Haw) 23

Josh Kennedy (WC) 23

Cyril Rioli (Haw) 22

Matthew Pavlich (Frem) 22

Lindsay Thomas (NM) 22

Jack Gunston (Haw) 21

Eddie Betts (Adel) 20

Mark LeCras (WC) 20

When looking for defenders, potentially "more midfield time" isn't the best thing for SC. The ones who take kick ins and have effective disposals in the defensive 50 are the ones that will score the most. Altho those stats are only for the first 4 rounds, just shows how players like Shaw, Enright, R.Murphy and Houli who were taking a lot of kicks in ended up as top defenders in SC.

For mids, clearances aren't that important. The player who gets first hands to the ball gets points even if tackled. A lot of talk regarding how Libba has been a "clearance beast" in the past, but with increase competition from the likes of Bont around stoppages, can he still average enough?

For forwards, possessions inside 50 are worth more than those in the midfield. Goal-kicking mids are probably the most valuable (as you would expect).

 

[Bomber18]

For mids, clearances aren't that important. The player who gets first hands to the ball gets points even if tackled. A lot of talk regarding how Libba has been a "clearance beast" in the past, but with increase competition from the likes of Bont around stoppages, can he still average enough?

Can't edit for some reason, but I meant who gets the clearance doesn't score any extra points. The player who gets first hands and does a little HB or kick, will get extra points for getting first hands to it. But if the person who gets first hands gets tackled, and a teammate gets the clearance. The first hands player still gets points for getting first hands to the ball.

 

[t.thomas6]

Scott Pendlebury on First Bounce:

"Smith will probably be the first to debut"

 

[Nathan]

Found this article from last year but I think it is still relevant to 2016.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...4/news-story/4e9579dd2e7aa70f4ff41b2883f5dc55



When looking for defenders, potentially "more midfield time" isn't the best thing for SC. The ones who take kick ins and have effective disposals in the defensive 50 are the ones that will score the most. Altho those stats are only for the first 4 rounds, just shows how players like Shaw, Enright, R.Murphy and Houli who were taking a lot of kicks in ended up as top defenders in SC.

For mids, clearances aren't that important. The player who gets first hands to the ball gets points even if tackled. A lot of talk regarding how Libba has been a "clearance beast" in the past, but with increase competition from the likes of Bont around stoppages, can he still average enough?

For forwards, possessions inside 50 are worth more than those in the midfield. Goal-kicking mids are probably the most valuable (as you would expect).

Can't edit for some reason, but I meant who gets the clearance doesn't score any extra points. The player who gets first hands and does a little HB or kick, will get extra points for getting first hands to it. But if the person who gets first hands gets tackled, and a teammate gets the clearance. The first hands player still gets points for getting first hands to the ball.

Los of clearences = lots of CP's

 

[Bomber18]

Los of clearences = lots of CP's

Not necessarily. A clearance could come from a kick in free space too which is just a regular kick. But yeah, the player who wins the ball and gets the clearance kick = SC Gold (Points for CP kick + First hands). Also the player who wins the ball that HBs off is gold too (CP HB + first hands). The one who just receives and kicks = (no special points). Hopefully there's another Cripps "SC Gold" type player this season too.

 

[THCLT]

Scott Pendlebury on First Bounce:

"Smith will probably be the first to debut"

Now there's a name that hasn't been floated around this preseason...cheap too!

Josh Smith $102,400 MID

 

[Bomber18]

Now there's a name that hasn't been floated around this preseason...cheap too!

Josh Smith $102,400 MID

Man, a basement price rookie is exactly what my teams needs! please play round 1,2,3,4,5,6,7&8!






THCLT's Edit in BOLD

 

[Nathan]

In cycling through the many fantasy sites today I came across an article with a link to SuperCoach Scores analysis.. assuming moderators know what site im talking about just wondering if there will be an ongoing relationship between sites??

 

[IDIG]

In cycling through the many fantasy sites today I came across an article with a link to SuperCoach Scores analysis.. assuming moderators know what site im talking about just wondering if there will be an ongoing relationship between sites??

Nah no relationship as such. They paid us the courtesy and they did the right thing and linked SCS and the author KLO as well so not much more we could ask for.

 

[Impromptu]

In cycling through the many fantasy sites today I came across an article with a link to SuperCoach Scores analysis.. assuming moderators know what site im talking about just wondering if there will be an ongoing relationship between sites??

Thanks mate.

There is generally no ongoing relationship from SCS with any website except probably BigFooty to a limited extent due to my alliance with SuperCoach Elite. However, there is generally mutual respect between the owners of fantasy related websites to at least acknowledge the source (ie KLO's beast work). And yes the owners did contact me and I said that's fine. I generally get along with most fantasy related websites; lol so far anyway rofl

 

[Bomber18]

Man, a basement price rookie is exactly what my teams needs! please play round 1,2,3,4,5,6,7&8!






THCLT's Edit in BOLD

Sneaky edit but agreed!

 

[Beijing_Sting]

I can't seem to get the app to trade players. Is there something basic, I'm missing? Nexus 6P.

* Edit - Never mind - I swiped left and found the process ... Probably should have read instructions...

 

[Bomber18]

Anyone know how the price scoring works? I ask because I can't understand why Saunders is priced at 159k when he averaged 9.5 from 2 games in 2015 (not because of injury because he was just no good). Shouldn't he priced at around 120k rather than at a premium? RDT and AFL Fantasy both price him as a rookie.

 

[KLo30]

Anyone know how the price scoring works? I ask because I can't understand why Saunders is priced at 159k when he averaged 9.5 from 2 games in 2015 (not because of injury because he was just no good). Shouldn't he priced at around 120k rather than at a premium? RDT and AFL Fantasy both price him as a rookie.

He played above a non scoring rookie and thus has had a slight increase. 2 games experience is worthwhile in real life, and thus in fantasy.

 

[Bomber18]

He played above a non scoring rookie and thus has had a slight increase. 2 games experience is worthwhile in real life, and thus in fantasy.

That's a true.
Would being a 3rd year player have something to do with it? Do you think his 2nd year scoring would be taken into account?
Looking at some of the first year players like Bryne, Menadue, they were priced at what they scored. Seemed a bit strange that they didn't do the same for Saunders when other comps did. Did he score too low and throw the system off? haha

 

[KLo30]

That's a true.
Would being a 3rd year player have something to do with it? Do you think his 2nd year scoring would be taken into account?
Looking at some of the first year players like Bryne, Menadue, they were priced at what they scored. Seemed a bit strange that they didn't do the same for Saunders when other comps did. Did he score too low and throw the system off? haha

Each competition has their separate price calculations. AFL Fantasy has weekly price increase from the players first game, whilst Supercoach only increases after playing 3 games.

Saunders is at $159K, so around his performance level.

 

[Bomber18]

Yeah, understand AFL fantasy, but RDT has the same price system as SC and they priced him at rookie price. He's probably not worth picking in any competition anyway.

 

[Goodie's Guns]

Fox Sports CEO Patrick Delany announced on Monday morning that Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt will join the AFL 360 family, replacing Brendon Goddard on Tuesday nights.
Western Bulldogs skipper Bob Murphy returns to the program as a regular and Geelong coach Chris Scott will sit alongside Nathan Buckley on Monday’s Coaches Night.
Essendon's Dyson Heppell and Brian Lake will replace Cam Mooney and Barry Hall on Thursday nights.

- Herald Sun

 

[t.thomas6]

Fox Sports CEO Patrick Delany announced on Monday morning that Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt will join the AFL 360 family, replacing Brendon Goddard on Tuesday nights.
Western Bulldogs skipper Bob Murphy returns to the program as a regular and Geelong coach Chris Scott will sit alongside Nathan Buckley on Monday’s Coaches Night.
Essendon's Dyson Heppell and Brian Lake will replace Cam Mooney and Barry Hall on Thursday nights.

- Herald Sun

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