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Which of the following apply to your current team? (multiple choice)

  • Starting with Libba (no Crouch or JOM)

    Votes: 92 38.7%
  • Starting with Libba + Crouch (no JOM)

    Votes: 69 29.0%
  • Starting with Libba + Crouch + JOM

    Votes: 15 6.3%
  • Full GnR (no mid pricers)

    Votes: 19 8.0%
  • GnR + Libba (1 mid pricer in Libba only)

    Votes: 44 18.5%
  • Set and forget rucks

    Votes: 97 40.8%
  • Ruck cover (R/F in your forwardline)

    Votes: 45 18.9%
  • Spending big (starting 3 or more of Shaw/Fyfe/Goldy/Lids/Joey)

    Votes: 37 15.5%
  • Spending less (starting 1 or less of Shaw/Fyfe/Goldy/Lids/Joey)

    Votes: 70 29.4%
  • I will be starting with all 4 of Fyfe/ Ablett/Pendles/Rockliff

    Votes: 46 19.3%
  • Planning to start a POD no one has spoken about

    Votes: 43 18.1%

  • Total voters
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Amended my team based on the NAB results week 1, and some comments I've seen on this website.

$48,300 left over.
Liking the look of this team, except for lack of DPP links in the midfield. Any good DPP rookies for the mid about?
Phillips from Pies if he gets a game, but he has been doing some nice things in the intraclub matches. I'm looking forward to seeing him in the Nab hitouts.
 
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Sticking with my GnR strategy. Wanted to start McVeigh but it doesn't look like he will play round 1 so I'm biting the bullet and starting Shaw. I think he will average 100-105 so I will take a lose but I believe he will be the number 1 defender and I don't want to waste a trade or be scrambling to bring him in later on.

Simpson may become Birchall if I need to go with a higher priced rookie in my forward line. I'm really hoping Hunt and Pickett show something in the upcoming Nab games.

Only $12K left in the kitty but assuming enough rookies present themselves I'm pretty happy with this lineup. Any comments appreciated.

 
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Sticking with my GnR strategy. Wanted to start McVeigh but it doesn't look like he will play round 1 so I'm biting the bullet and starting Shaw. I think he will average 100-105 so I will take a lose but I believe he will be the number 1 defender and I don't want to waste a trade or be scrambling to bring him in later on.

Simpson may become Birchall if I need to go with a higher priced rookie in my forward line. I'm really hoping Hunt and Pickett show something in the upcoming Nab games.

Only $12K left in the kitty but assuming enough rookies present themselves I'm pretty happy with this lineup. Any comments appreciated.

DEF: I'd be surprised if there are that many quality rookies. There will definitely be 5 or more in total, but everyone you have (except maybe Broad) is a key defender. They not only won't score well, but are also vulnerable to permanently losing their spot in the side (except Brown), as there are only 3 spots available in each team.
MID: WOW
RUC: Gawn is a bit risky given he's only had 1 good year. I think Martin and Jacobs are more reliable, but Gawn could potentially improve again. Lobbe is another option given his value.
FOR: Lids may not be fit for any NAB, and we know what happened last time that was the case. Dusty is more durable and has more upside.

The main concern is defence. Perhaps downgrading 1 or 2 of Lids, Shaw, Gawn or the mids could free up some cash.
 

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Current line up.
Pretty much sold on the midfield and defence keepers. Very much open to debate on the forward line and ruck lines though

DEF: Boyd, Simpson, Bartel, Birchall, M. Brown (ESS), Broad (Adamson, Hartley)
MID: Dangerfield, Ablett, T. Mitchell, Shiel, Rockliff, Liberatore, Mills, Kerridge (Barrett, Freeman, Keays)
RUC: S. Martin, Mumford (M. King)
FWD: D. Martin, Westhoff, Barlow, Kommer, Petracca, Sumner (Grimley, Paine)

Gone with a 4-5(+Libba)-2-3 strategy

Obvious concern is trying to decide what I want more, a keeper F4 or a keeper M5

Thoughts ?
Thanks in advance :)
 
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Current line up.
Pretty much sold on the midfield and defence keepers. Very much open to debate on the forward line and ruck lines though

DEF: Boyd, Simpson, Bartel, Birchall, M. Brown (ESS), Broad (Adamson, Hartley)
MID: Dangerfield, Ablett, T. Mitchell, Shiel, Rockliff, Liberatore, Mills, Kerridge (Barrett, Freeman, Keays)
RUC: S. Martin, Mumford (M. King)
FWD: D. Martin, Westhoff, Barlow, Kommer, Petracca, Sumner (Grimley, Paine)

Gone with a 4-5(+Libba)-2-3 strategy

Obvious concern is trying to decide what I want more, a keeper F4 or a keeper M5

Thoughts ?
Thanks in advance :)
Like the structure a lot, but not sure on Kommer, Petracca and Summer at F4/5/6.

No other issues really. Nice team.
 
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DEF: I'd be surprised if there are that many quality rookies. There will definitely be 5 or more in total, but everyone you have (except maybe Broad) is a key defender. They not only won't score well, but are also vulnerable to permanently losing their spot in the side (except Brown), as there are only 3 spots available in each team.
MID: WOW
RUC: Gawn is a bit risky given he's only had 1 good year. I think Martin and Jacobs are more reliable, but Gawn could potentially improve again. Lobbe is another option given his value.
FOR: Lids may not be fit for any NAB, and we know what happened last time that was the case. Dusty is more durable and has more upside.

The main concern is defence. Perhaps downgrading 1 or 2 of Lids, Shaw, Gawn or the mids could free up some cash.
Thanks for the feedback mate.

Gawn I have been set on all preseason and is a lock for me. Lids has averaged 110+ for the last 18 months and barring injury is also a lock for me.

I am more concerned about lack of forward rookies at this stage than defensive rookies. I don't believe my defensive rookies will score highly but if they can average 60 then they will make me 150k each and will have done their job.

Dusty is an upgrade target for me as I like the 3 I have chosen. Although if Lids doesn't play Dusty will take his place.

Every year I go speculative and try and spread cash fir the extra keeper and end up having to corrective trade multiple players.

This year I am focusing on quality over quantity.
 
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A few tweaks since last time, but I'm quite happy with the structure now.

D - Laird, Bartel, Birchall, Langdon, Brown, Hartley (Broad, Tucker)
M - Fyfe, Danger, Gray, Mitchell, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Gresham (Gore, Phillips, Smith)
R - Jacobs, Tippett (King)
F - Dusty, Westhoff, Barlow, Simpkin, Milera, Kerridge (Howard, AMT)

$11,600 in the bank.

Main decisions lately have been;

Langdon vs KK
Gray vs JPK
Westhoff vs Gunston
Jacobs vs Martin

Have probably gone with the more unique option in all 4 now I look at it.

Have also just realised how many current and former Crows are in my team!! Home bias perhaps.

Team seems fairly safe but with a point of difference on most lines.

Would love some feedback. Cheers all.
 
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Thanks for the feedback mate.

Gawn I have been set on all preseason and is a lock for me. Lids has averaged 110+ for the last 18 months and barring injury is also a lock for me.

I am more concerned about lack of forward rookies at this stage than defensive rookies. I don't believe my defensive rookies will score highly but if they can average 60 then they will make me 150k each and will have done their job.

Dusty is an upgrade target for me as I like the 3 I have chosen. Although if Lids doesn't play Dusty will take his place.

Every year I go speculative and try and spread cash fir the extra keeper and end up having to corrective trade multiple players.

This year I am focusing on quality over quantity.
Sounds like a good strategy, I've done the same thing with my team, albeit with a few cheaper premiums and 1 less rookie on the field.

In terms of defence vs forward rookies, Kerridge is already a lock which helps, Petracca should play round 1, and there are plenty of more expensive options. Only Brown, a key defender, is a lock in defence.

As you have said, Simpson could be downgraded if u need to upgrade a rookie. Despite Deledio's average, I'd be wary of his ability to score well and play early, because last year was very problematic for those who had him.
 

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Thanks for the feedback mate.

Gawn I have been set on all preseason and is a lock for me. Lids has averaged 110+ for the last 18 months and barring injury is also a lock for me.

I am more concerned about lack of forward rookies at this stage than defensive rookies. I don't believe my defensive rookies will score highly but if they can average 60 then they will make me 150k each and will have done their job.

Dusty is an upgrade target for me as I like the 3 I have chosen. Although if Lids doesn't play Dusty will take his place.

Every year I go speculative and try and spread cash fir the extra keeper and end up having to corrective trade multiple players.

This year I am focusing on quality over quantity.
I feel you've gone a bit top heavy in every line with your quality premiums and as a result you might miss some good higher priced rookie options like Cockatoo, Ellis, Menadue, Cowan or the $200k options like Mills, Anderson, Duggan, Simpkin, Wells.

Personally, I think Kerridge at F5 or F6 is a better approach with a $200k fwd at F4.

In the forwards, Petracca is still quite uncertain for Round 1 (may come back through VFL). The likes of Howard/Phillips don't have the best JS as first year players. You might be able to get away with having one at F6 but I'd rather them as bench options for cash making.

In defence as others have said, the defensive rookies are probably not that reliable for their scoring & JS other than M.Brown. I'm feeling vulnerable with 2 yet alone 3 on field! I do like how you have Laird, Shaw and Simpson as your premiums as they are durable and won't cause you further headaches due to over reliance on rookies.

I would definitely downgrade one of your strong mids to strengthen your forwards and backs.
 
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Thanks for the feedback mate.

Gawn I have been set on all preseason and is a lock for me. Lids has averaged 110+ for the last 18 months and barring injury is also a lock for me.

I am more concerned about lack of forward rookies at this stage than defensive rookies. I don't believe my defensive rookies will score highly but if they can average 60 then they will make me 150k each and will have done their job.

Dusty is an upgrade target for me as I like the 3 I have chosen. Although if Lids doesn't play Dusty will take his place.

Every year I go speculative and try and spread cash fir the extra keeper and end up having to corrective trade multiple players.

This year I am focusing on quality over quantity.
Shaw, Lids and Gawn are all decent PODS. Haven't seen the three of them collectively in many teams.

Back yourself, I say. Just have a plan B, in case the DEF rookies don't come through. As others have said that is where your biggest risk lies. Even a 60 average might be a stretch for some.
 
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After much deliberation, I've finally come up with this team:

D - Houli, Simpson, Bartel, B Smith, Broad, Bonner, (Brown, Byrne)
M - Danger, Pendles, Gazza, Rockliff, Libba, Simpkin, Gresham, Mathieson (Dunkley, Cuningham, MacPherson)
R - Martin, Jacobs, (Grimley)
F - Dusty, Dahlhaus, Wingard, Barlow, Kerridge, Petracca (Kommer, Phillips)

Still tossing up between Houli, Birch and KK, and I'll get Wines instead of a mid rookie if there are better rookies in defence or forward.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
 
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After much deliberation, I've finally come up with this team:

D - Houli, Simpson, Bartel, B Smith, Broad, Bonner, (Brown, Byrne)
M - Danger, Pendles, Gazza, Rockliff, Libba, Simpkin, Gresham (Dunkley, Cuningham, MacPherson)
R - Martin, Jacobs, (Grimley)
F - Dusty, Dahlhaus, Wingard, Barlow, Kerridge, Petracca (Kommer, Phillips)

Still tossing up between Houli, Birch and KK, and I'll get Wines instead of a mid rookie if there are better rookies in defence or forward.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
Hey mate you are missing a mid
 
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After much deliberation, I've finally come up with this team:

D - Houli, Simpson, Bartel, B Smith, Broad, Bonner, (Brown, Byrne)
M - Danger, Pendles, Gazza, Rockliff, Libba, Simpkin, Gresham, Mathieson (Dunkley, Cuningham, MacPherson)
R - Martin, Jacobs, (Grimley)
F - Dusty, Dahlhaus, Wingard, Barlow, Kerridge, Petracca (Kommer, Phillips)

Still tossing up between Houli, Birch and KK, and I'll get Wines instead of a mid rookie if there are better rookies in defence or forward.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
Your structure has me rethinking mine lol.

Not sure about Houli as he roller coasts every second year to 80s so if the pattern repeats then he won't be a top 10 def. I like the Simpson pick, especially after hearing that Simmo believes he is the fittest he has been in 5 years. Not sure about Bartel. Historically he should return to 100, but 13 seasons in he may slip this year.

Like your midfield. No fyfe?

Rucks no Goldy but both proven ruck stars.

Forward line is awesome.
 
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Pretty much sold on the midfield and defence keepers. Very much open to debate on the forward line and ruck lines though

DEF: Boyd, Simpson, Bartel, Birchall, M. Brown (ESS), Broad (Adamson, Hartley)
MID: Dangerfield, Ablett, T. Mitchell, Shiel, Rockliff, Liberatore, Mills, Kerridge (Barrett, Freeman, Keays)
RUC: S. Martin, Mumford (M. King)
FWD: D. Martin, Westhoff, Barlow, Kommer, Petracca, Sumner (Grimley, Paine)

Gone with a 4-5(+Libba)-2-3 strategy

Obvious concern is trying to decide what I want more, a keeper F4 or a keeper M5

Thoughts ?
Thanks in advance :)
Just a quick comment from me Jimace - there is quite a lot of injury risk here overall.

If you could replace a couple of guys like Boyd, Shiel, S Martin and Mumford with similar but more durable players, I think you would be better served.

Alternately, just make sure you are comfortable that your rookies will play enough to provide you with adequate cover (and maybe pay up for safer rookies/pick them with that in mind).

One more option: you could look at trying to cover two rucks with Tippett in the forward line, assuming you think he's a reasonable pick on a standalone basis (don't pick a R-F you don't like just for cover, though). His ruck coverage ability essentially adds 2-3 points to his average every time you use him to facilitate cover for Mummy/Stef. If you were open to funding Tippett with cash from Boyd, that could actually kill three birds with one stone! Good luck.
 

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Interested in viewpoints on the many combos I see without Goldy (apologies if this has been addressed earlier!).

Are you planning to stick it out all year with Mummy/NN/Jacobs? $500k + odd seems like a strange stepping stone to me. IF you are going Martin + someone who <>Goldy, surely Lobbe gets the look?
 

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Thanks Darkie for the input, good long term planning you have haha,

There is quite a bit of risk with Shiel I'll back him in as a younger guy who *fingers crossed* can get over his injuries.
Take out his 3 lowest scores for 2015 including a red vest due to that injury he got, his average is above 115 so the ceiling is there. Enough to tempt me to select him. The reward is big enough to risk the starting spot.

Mumford is a similar boat in regards to ceiling, top 2 ruckman when fit. I'd only start him with a playing R3, even if that is a rookie to start off with. As you alluded to, Tippett is an option but I'm just not sold on him. The second half of last year saw him rack up 30 hitouts a game and a few goals to boot, I'm just not sure that is sustainable. But let's watch the rest of the pre season and see how tippett goes. Selecting Tippett would alter the structure too I reckon as I wouldn't be overly happy with daylight between tippett at F3 and then F4 rookie.

All the defence picks are ageing players, so you are right - if things don't go my way down back, i'll know about haha
 

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A few tweaks since last time, but I'm quite happy with the structure now.

D - Laird, Bartel, Birchall, Langdon, Brown, Hartley (Broad, Tucker)
M - Fyfe, Danger, Gray, Mitchell, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Gresham (Gore, Phillips, Smith)
R - Jacobs, Tippett (King)
F - Dusty, Westhoff, Barlow, Simpkin, Milera, Kerridge (Howard, AMT)

$11,600 in the bank.

Main decisions lately have been;

Langdon vs KK
Gray vs JPK
Westhoff vs Gunston
Jacobs vs Martin

Have probably gone with the more unique option in all 4 now I look at it.

Have also just realised how many current and former Crows are in my team!! Home bias perhaps.

Team seems fairly safe but with a point of difference on most lines.

Would love some feedback. Cheers all.
Fairly solid structure, similar to mine so I obviously like it! It'll be interesting to see if Laird can replicate 2015 and Langdon should have some natural improvement.
F4 security with a more proven player in Simpkin too which I like. Tippett worries me but I'm sure you'll have good reasons to pick him come round 1.
 
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Fairly solid structure, similar to mine so I obviously like it! It'll be interesting to see if Laird can replicate 2015 and Langdon should have some natural improvement.
F4 security with a more proven player in Simpkin too which I like. Tippett worries me but I'm sure you'll have good reasons to pick him come round 1.
Cheers mate.

I see greater depth and potential in the forward rookies (compared to defenders), so that's why I'm going 3-0-5 there (classing Simpkin as a high priced rookie).

Tippett will move forward in rd 8-10 hopefully, when I bring in Goldy.

He can then be F4/5/6 eventually, and cover any ruck injuries via King.

Pretty set on the structure but might have to tweak rookies a little.

Appreciate your feedback!!
 
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Wadya reckon team ??

DEF = Shaw, KK, Yoe, B Smith, Bonner, M Brown (Broad, Hartley)
MID = Fyfe, Dangerfield, Rockliff, Cripps, Liberatore, B Crouch, Mills, Hopper (Cunningham, M Hibberd, Polkinghorne)
RUC = Gawn, Lobbe (Read)
FOR = Martin, Dalhaus, Wingard, Barlow, Kerridge, Petracca (Howard, Grimley)

$29,800 ramaining
 
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