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Great hearing your comments! He was one I did consider briefly too.
Cutler actually at 292k in SC.
Interesting article from Hanley who expects him to breakout this season.
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2016-03-18/who-will-breakout
Cutler actually at 292k in SC.
Interesting article from Hanley who expects him to breakout this season.
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2016-03-18/who-will-breakout
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Hey t.t6,
I have a general rule of thumb, with players that change Clubs, and outside of the odd "Higgins" in there, it works pretty well. You can sum it up with "A leopard doesn't change it's spots". Players don't become better players by moving Clubs. I don't believe Suckling was robbed of role or opportunity at Hawthorn, so outside of a "I'm at a new Club, I better pull my finger out" type mini spike (for example: Monfries), I can't see him becoming a better player, and therefore better SC scorer, than he was at Hawthorn. We are talking about established players here, not sub 100 game players that are still defining their levels. A new Club won't, in the largest of majorities of cases, improve an established (100+ games played) player in SC terms. They have established what level they play to. A new Club is more likely, and has more capacity, to actually cause an established player to drop in output. I think Suckling will be Suckling, with an 80's average with a few good scores sprinkled in there. Outside of a potential spike season, which are nearly impossible to predict, Sucklings scoring patterns are pretty much set.
Seedsman is a different kettle fish. Suckling has been around since 2009, and played 102 games. He's coming into his 7th/8th AFL season, depending on how you view his season he missed due to injury. Seedsman is coming into his 5th season, with 49 games under his belt. His previous 2 seasons were injury affected, and his second season looked good. I think there are just too many warning bells around him, to be spending $325k on him. 21 games in 2 seasons, and a pretty much undefined role, I can't see the upside outweighing the risk with this one. He may prove me wrong, but I think, if he gets through this season, he might be a candidate for next season.
I have a general rule of thumb, with players that change Clubs, and outside of the odd "Higgins" in there, it works pretty well. You can sum it up with "A leopard doesn't change it's spots". Players don't become better players by moving Clubs. I don't believe Suckling was robbed of role or opportunity at Hawthorn, so outside of a "I'm at a new Club, I better pull my finger out" type mini spike (for example: Monfries), I can't see him becoming a better player, and therefore better SC scorer, than he was at Hawthorn. We are talking about established players here, not sub 100 game players that are still defining their levels. A new Club won't, in the largest of majorities of cases, improve an established (100+ games played) player in SC terms. They have established what level they play to. A new Club is more likely, and has more capacity, to actually cause an established player to drop in output. I think Suckling will be Suckling, with an 80's average with a few good scores sprinkled in there. Outside of a potential spike season, which are nearly impossible to predict, Sucklings scoring patterns are pretty much set.
Seedsman is a different kettle fish. Suckling has been around since 2009, and played 102 games. He's coming into his 7th/8th AFL season, depending on how you view his season he missed due to injury. Seedsman is coming into his 5th season, with 49 games under his belt. His previous 2 seasons were injury affected, and his second season looked good. I think there are just too many warning bells around him, to be spending $325k on him. 21 games in 2 seasons, and a pretty much undefined role, I can't see the upside outweighing the risk with this one. He may prove me wrong, but I think, if he gets through this season, he might be a candidate for next season.
Hi Rowsus,
Plenty of people appear to be favouring a non-playing R3 (eg. Wyatt or Cox) to use as the captain loophole. I think this is fraught with danger.
Im favouring selecting grimley at r3 who i think will play most weeks. I would then prefer to select a non-playing m12 eg someone like a rhys mathieson / nathan freeman type who will not play for the first 5-6 weeks but will probably be a good cash cow after that. This will allow me to effectively have a capt loophole for the start of season. By about round 5-6 Im expecting I will have someone else who isn't playing sitting on my bench somewhere to use as loophole.
I would normally not consider this strategy but due to the scarcity of quality, cheap mid rookies compared to previous years I think this is a valid strategy.
Interested to hear your thoughts!!
Plenty of people appear to be favouring a non-playing R3 (eg. Wyatt or Cox) to use as the captain loophole. I think this is fraught with danger.
Im favouring selecting grimley at r3 who i think will play most weeks. I would then prefer to select a non-playing m12 eg someone like a rhys mathieson / nathan freeman type who will not play for the first 5-6 weeks but will probably be a good cash cow after that. This will allow me to effectively have a capt loophole for the start of season. By about round 5-6 Im expecting I will have someone else who isn't playing sitting on my bench somewhere to use as loophole.
I would normally not consider this strategy but due to the scarcity of quality, cheap mid rookies compared to previous years I think this is a valid strategy.
Interested to hear your thoughts!!
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Hi row
I apologise if this question has been answered. There has been a lot of questions regarding if Sheridan is a worthwhile pick? I am considering putting Sheridan in my side however if I am picking him i am basically saying that he will be my D6. If we look at the solid players in defence you have:
Shaw
Boyd
McVeigh
Rance
Hoult
Laird
Bartel
Simo and the list goes on. I can't see Sheridan avg beyond 90. The other issue is I can't recall the last freo defender to be in the top 8 best avg defenders for the year. What do you expect Sheridan to average? Is there more upside downgrading Sheridan to a weitering and then upgrading Libba to a pendles? I am sorry if the question has been answered
I apologise if this question has been answered. There has been a lot of questions regarding if Sheridan is a worthwhile pick? I am considering putting Sheridan in my side however if I am picking him i am basically saying that he will be my D6. If we look at the solid players in defence you have:
Shaw
Boyd
McVeigh
Rance
Hoult
Laird
Bartel
Simo and the list goes on. I can't see Sheridan avg beyond 90. The other issue is I can't recall the last freo defender to be in the top 8 best avg defenders for the year. What do you expect Sheridan to average? Is there more upside downgrading Sheridan to a weitering and then upgrading Libba to a pendles? I am sorry if the question has been answered
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Thanks for answering my question even if it was one that didn't take more than ten seconds of think time.
As I said I had my navy blue glasses on and it was prompted by the table although he didn't at any stage actually move onto the field.
I will try to have a more challenging question next time I post in this thread, although that may simply be what is the weather like in Denmark today
As I said I had my navy blue glasses on and it was prompted by the table although he didn't at any stage actually move onto the field.
I will try to have a more challenging question next time I post in this thread, although that may simply be what is the weather like in Denmark today
I'm picking Seedsman this year Rowsus. I might be looking at this through my Crows coloured glasses but i reckon they recruited him for a bit of speed off of half back, burning off the opposition up the wing and perhaps kicking it straight into the forward line occaisionally and getting score assists. Also might play a bit of a mid type role when the ball is in the back end of the ground. I'm bullish that all this could/should add up to a 90 sc average and make him a worthy starting defence keeper (in the context that he's $325k) aka Newnes last year.
Player's Heat Map
Not sure whether this question came up in this thread but I recalled you mentioning something along the lines of 'would be interested to see their heat map...'
I came across another site which show round by round heat maps of selected players for the 2014 season, there is one player from each team for each of the round. Might be useful, might not be but the link's below for your reference.
2014 Heat Maps
Not sure whether this question came up in this thread but I recalled you mentioning something along the lines of 'would be interested to see their heat map...'
I came across another site which show round by round heat maps of selected players for the 2014 season, there is one player from each team for each of the round. Might be useful, might not be but the link's below for your reference.
2014 Heat Maps
Found a way to do it on the AFL Live Pass App for all players in 2015!
You need a premium subscription though (can be done through the Telstra number). Go to the game > Coach > click on a player > Rotate screen and then you can see heatmaps.
It mainly shows where on the ground each possession was won. I'm not sure you can do it across the season, I can only do it for one player in an individual game.
They don't have it for the NAB 2016 games though
Here is Pendlebury's heatmap for Round 23, 2015.
Edit: How did I not see 'Season heatmap' option. Here's Pendle's 2015 heatmap. I'm not sure how much use it is as it shows where on the ground he won all his disposals.
You need a premium subscription though (can be done through the Telstra number). Go to the game > Coach > click on a player > Rotate screen and then you can see heatmaps.
It mainly shows where on the ground each possession was won. I'm not sure you can do it across the season, I can only do it for one player in an individual game.
They don't have it for the NAB 2016 games though
Here is Pendlebury's heatmap for Round 23, 2015.
Edit: How did I not see 'Season heatmap' option. Here's Pendle's 2015 heatmap. I'm not sure how much use it is as it shows where on the ground he won all his disposals.
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Hi Dannyk,
I'll nearly guarantee, whoever you pick at M12 will be a non-player!
I'd strongly advise against picking someone like a Mathieson for this role! If things go to schedule for him, he'll be on the bubble, when we are looking for downgrade targets. We might not have many good downgrade targets coming to meet us between Rnds 8 and 15 this season, so if you start with him in your team, I think you are robbing yourself of one. Some will say, what's the difference? You end up with a compromised pick one way or the other. The difference is, more Rookies playing/selected Round 1 prove to be good/better selections, than those that start later on. If you start with Mathieson, and select a "compromised" downgrade target later in the season, that compromised pick is less likely to be a successful one, than taking a compromised pick in Round 1, and downgrading to Mathieson later.
I'll nearly guarantee, whoever you pick at M12 will be a non-player!
I'd strongly advise against picking someone like a Mathieson for this role! If things go to schedule for him, he'll be on the bubble, when we are looking for downgrade targets. We might not have many good downgrade targets coming to meet us between Rnds 8 and 15 this season, so if you start with him in your team, I think you are robbing yourself of one. Some will say, what's the difference? You end up with a compromised pick one way or the other. The difference is, more Rookies playing/selected Round 1 prove to be good/better selections, than those that start later on. If you start with Mathieson, and select a "compromised" downgrade target later in the season, that compromised pick is less likely to be a successful one, than taking a compromised pick in Round 1, and downgrading to Mathieson later.
Here are Rich's heat maps. If you want other specific rounds, let me know and I'll post them here.
Round 23
Season 2015
Round 1, 2015
It seems Daniel Rich won a fair share of his disposals in the mids last season. He may have lined up in defence (clearly more than 35% of the time to gain the DEF status). I think if you compare with Pendles' maps though, he clearly doesn't have as many centre circle disposals. Any other thoughts?
EDIT: I posted a few more on twitter (https://twitter.com/Jibrangers)
I think comparing Rich's map with the likes of Boyd, Shaw, Laird, B.Smith, it seems Rich played a lot of time in the mids last season.
Round 23
Season 2015
Round 1, 2015
It seems Daniel Rich won a fair share of his disposals in the mids last season. He may have lined up in defence (clearly more than 35% of the time to gain the DEF status). I think if you compare with Pendles' maps though, he clearly doesn't have as many centre circle disposals. Any other thoughts?
EDIT: I posted a few more on twitter (https://twitter.com/Jibrangers)
I think comparing Rich's map with the likes of Boyd, Shaw, Laird, B.Smith, it seems Rich played a lot of time in the mids last season.
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Hey Rowsus,
Just wondering if u think Shaw is overpriced.
I currently have him in my side as he was the only def that averaged over 100 last year (I think).
I am looking to take risks in my back line to improve other areas but I always seem to struggle defensively every year.
Also do u know much about Zac Williams? I never saw his Nab cup matches but he finished last season well and like Sheridan could be an improver
Just wondering if u think Shaw is overpriced.
I currently have him in my side as he was the only def that averaged over 100 last year (I think).
I am looking to take risks in my back line to improve other areas but I always seem to struggle defensively every year.
Also do u know much about Zac Williams? I never saw his Nab cup matches but he finished last season well and like Sheridan could be an improver
Hi Dannyk,
I'll nearly guarantee, whoever you pick at M12 will be a non-player!
I'd strongly advise against picking someone like a Mathieson for this role! If things go to schedule for him, he'll be on the bubble, when we are looking for downgrade targets. We might not have many good downgrade targets coming to meet us between Rnds 8 and 15 this season, so if you start with him in your team, I think you are robbing yourself of one. Some will say, what's the difference? You end up with a compromised pick one way or the other. The difference is, more Rookies playing/selected Round 1 prove to be good/better selections, than those that start later on. If you start with Mathieson, and select a "compromised" downgrade target later in the season, that compromised pick is less likely to be a successful one, than taking a compromised pick in Round 1, and downgrading to Mathieson later.
I'll nearly guarantee, whoever you pick at M12 will be a non-player!
I'd strongly advise against picking someone like a Mathieson for this role! If things go to schedule for him, he'll be on the bubble, when we are looking for downgrade targets. We might not have many good downgrade targets coming to meet us between Rnds 8 and 15 this season, so if you start with him in your team, I think you are robbing yourself of one. Some will say, what's the difference? You end up with a compromised pick one way or the other. The difference is, more Rookies playing/selected Round 1 prove to be good/better selections, than those that start later on. If you start with Mathieson, and select a "compromised" downgrade target later in the season, that compromised pick is less likely to be a successful one, than taking a compromised pick in Round 1, and downgrading to Mathieson later.
Here is what Rowsus said about Shaw in his Tables and Analysis thread.
http://www.supercoachscores.com/threads/2766-Rowsus-Tables-And-Analysis-Of-2015-Season/page4
I'm not sure what the opposite of a Flat Track Bully is, but whatever it is, that was Shaw in 2015! He averaged 21.7/game higher in losing games, and he averaged 132 in the 6 games GWS lost by 27 points or more!!! He finally played 22 games in a season in 2015, but I wouldn't be pencilling him in for the same again in 2016. In 2015 Shaw had the 10th highest average of all players, and the 6th highest aggregate! That's rather remarkable, but it also nearly makes him untouchable for starting teams in 2016. Who wants to start with a $600k Def?! Thinking that you will start with him, and build your Def-line up around him is fraught with danger, just ask anybody who tried to do that with Malceski last season!
http://www.supercoachscores.com/threads/2766-Rowsus-Tables-And-Analysis-Of-2015-Season/page4
I'm not sure what the opposite of a Flat Track Bully is, but whatever it is, that was Shaw in 2015! He averaged 21.7/game higher in losing games, and he averaged 132 in the 6 games GWS lost by 27 points or more!!! He finally played 22 games in a season in 2015, but I wouldn't be pencilling him in for the same again in 2016. In 2015 Shaw had the 10th highest average of all players, and the 6th highest aggregate! That's rather remarkable, but it also nearly makes him untouchable for starting teams in 2016. Who wants to start with a $600k Def?! Thinking that you will start with him, and build your Def-line up around him is fraught with danger, just ask anybody who tried to do that with Malceski last season!
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