Analysis SuperCoach Scoring Explained, Observations & Complaints On Scoring

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Interesting read. Not sure if we have ever been given this level of detail. For example, an uncontested mark in general play is worth 2 points whereas an uncontested mark on the lead is worth 5 points. If this should be moved to the general thread, feel free I just thought it was an important post this week!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...a/news-story/7385b9a5cdd20375bf2ed606a02fe1d0

SuperCoach 2016: Champion Data explains key stats in scoring formula
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PUTTING together a big score in SuperCoach is about a lot more than just kicks and handballs.

The SuperCoach scoring system is a complicated one, with more than 100 different areas of the game involved in the overall final score.

Unlike some fantasy games that award points for a kick no matter where it goes or consider a mark in front of goal when scores are level in the final quarter the same as accepting a backwards pass in defence, SuperCoach rewards a player’s real impact in a match.

Champion Data, which records the stats that power SuperCoach, reveals the most important stats that make up the scoring system.

GOALS

It is no great surprise that the main avenue to SuperCoach scoring is through kicking a goal.

Those coaches wanting to select West Coast’s Josh Kennedy would have a smile to their face — each time your player boots one through the big sticks that will earn you a whopping eight points.

They don’t have to kick the goal themselves to score. If your player is the last to assist in a score — by kicking, handballing or knocking the ball to a teammate who kicks a goal, for example — that will earn you an impressive 3.5 points. Tom Lynch from Adelaide ranked No. 1 in this area last season.

Goal: 8 points

Behind: 1 point

Score Assist: 3.5 points

CONTESTED FOOTY

Winning a contested possession has always been highly rewarding, but there are multiple ways in which you can win a contested possession.

Winning it at ground level will earn you 4.5 points, however, winning a contested possession in the air is far more rewarding. A contested mark is worth six points, and an intercept contested mark is like gold, earning you eight points — the equal-most along with a goal.

If you’re thinking of selecting Easton Wood, this will make you happy. Wood took 33 contested marks from opposition kicks last season — six more than any other player.

Intercept contested mark: 8 points

Contested mark: 6 points

Contested possession at ground level: 4.5 points

Intercept possession: 4.5 points

UNCONTESTED FOOTY

Yes, your player receives greater reward for winning the ball in a contested situation, but players also get points for winning the ball on the outside. All uncontested marks will generate two points, and for those thinking of selecting Nick Riewoldt, you earn five points for every mark taken on a lead. For those coaches out there wanting to select Andrew Gaff, you will earn 1.5 points for handball receive.

Mark on a lead: 5 points

Uncontested mark: 2 points

Handball received: 1.5 points

Gather: 1.5 points


RUCK CONTESTS

Only recently has the scoring system changed for hitouts, but it was a change that needed to happen. Previously, all hitouts were earning your player points, now only hitouts that go to a teammate will see your ruckman rewarded, generating five points per hitout to advantage.

This is where Nic Naitanui, Aaron Sandilands, Max Gawn and Todd Goldstein come into their own. A hitout directly to the opposition will lose you one point.

Hitout to advantage: 5 points

Hitout: 0 points

Hitout sharked: -1 point

FREE KICKS

Discipline is crucial in SuperCoach. Coaches of Joel Selwood will be happy, with a free kick netting you four points. Those thinking of picking Joe Daniher should think again, a free against will lose you four points, and worse of all, a 50m penalty against will lose you 8.5 points — the biggest negative in any statistic.

Free kick: 4 points

Free against: -4 points

50m penalty against: -8.5 points


HITTING TARGETS

Ball use is another key element involved in the SuperCoach scoring system. An effective kick is far more beneficial than an effective handball, generating four points compared to just 1.5 points. Heath Shaw ranked No. 1 in this area last season, averaging 15 effective kicks per game.

However, if your player turns the ball over it is going to hurt, losing four points for every clanger disposal. Dustin Martin owners wouldn’t be liking this after the Tigers midfielder averaged the most clanger kicks in the competition last season. All ineffective disposals are worth nothing.

Effective kick: 4 points

Effective handball: 1.5 points

Ineffective disposal: 0 points

Clanger disposal: -4 points


ONE-PERCENTERS

Defensive work also doesn’t go unnoticed. Matt Priddis has been a SuperCoach star for years and it isn’t hard to see why. All effective tackles will earn you four points — Priddis ranked No. 1 in this area for 2015. Shepherds will generate 1.5 points. Lock-down defenders usually don’t get a lot of the ball so they need a lot of spoils to put up a decent score — they are worth just two points.

Tackle: 4 points

Spoil: 2 points

Shepherd: 1.5 points
 

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This is really IMPORTANT.

Opens the door wide open IMO. If you didn't have a spreadsheet of the key stats such as DE%, CPs and (now Goal assists even) of all the players in your team it would be time to start one up now haha
 

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Gee that's a great read and insight. Had no idea spoils and shepherds earn points. Another not on the list is a kickin (without playing on) earns 1 point. Effective kick in earns 5.
Have we underestimated how good KPD could go this year again?
 
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Gee that's a great read and insight. Had no idea spoils and shepherds earn points. Another not on the list is a kickin (without playing on) earns 1 point. Effective kick in earns 5.
Have we underestimated how good KPD could go this year again?
Could explain why Heath Shaw is SC gold.

Another interesting one not listed here, a hitout from a 3rd man up scores 0 points! Blicavs owners beware now that Zac Smith has come to the club.

Perhaps the mods want to sticky this, some great information I'd never seen and I have been playing the game for 10 years.
 

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Gee that's a great read and insight. Had no idea spoils and shepherds earn points. Another not on the list is a kickin (without playing on) earns 1 point. Effective kick in earns 5.
Have we underestimated how good KPD could go this year again?
Do you have the link confirming this please?

The 5 points for an effective kick in wasn't in place last year was it?

Will be a game changer if true..
 

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Gee that's a great read and insight. Had no idea spoils and shepherds earn points. Another not on the list is a kickin (without playing on) earns 1 point. Effective kick in earns 5.
Have we underestimated how good KPD could go this year again?
I think we most certainly have.

Consider Rance for example.

Effective disposal is now even more important. He operates at 83.17% (ranked #36 in the entire competition last year).
One percenters such as spoils, shepherds are now worth points, Rance averaged 8.83 one percenters last year (BEST in the competition last year).

Rance could well gain 10 ppg on the basis of this updated scoring system.
 
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Great article... Nice to have the scoring detailed a bit more.

-8.5 points for a 50m Penalty is going to hurt a lot this year with the new 10m rule regarding the man on mark.
 

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Do you have the link confirming this please?

The 5 points for an effective kick in wasn't in place last year was it?

Will be a game changer if true..
Probably should've qualified that with 5 points for long effective kick in and 1 for a short effective kick in. I'll find the article.

2015 Herald sun article saying long kick in to advantage earns most points: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...4/news-story/4e9579dd2e7aa70f4ff41b2883f5dc55

Discussion in Defenders thread confirming the points allocated (although not officially confirmed, it seems legit): http://www.supercoachscores.com/thr...ussions/page32?p=235526&viewfull=1#post235526
 
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Another interesting one not listed here, a hitout from a 3rd man up scores 0 points! Blicavs owners beware now that Zac Smith has come to the club.
Where did you read this? I'm sure if it's a 3rd man up hitout from advantage it will score points.
 

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50m penalty -8.5 points yikes... anyone have stats on who gave the most 50s last year? (just kidding) :D

I'd be interested to know how many of these have been changed or are new actually.
 
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Cheers I just found the article too. It sounds ridiculous if it's true. I'm sure Blics got points last year when he did an effective one. I would assume a third man up hitout to advantage would get 5 points. Would be great to confirm, I'll send some tweets out ha!
 

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It does seem quite odd that 3rd man up HTA are not scorers. I wonder if third man up HTDA is a negative scorer??
 

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Probably should've qualified that with 5 points for long effective kick in and 1 for a short effective kick in. I'll find the article.

2015 Herald sun article saying long kick in to advantage earns most points: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...4/news-story/4e9579dd2e7aa70f4ff41b2883f5dc55

Discussion in Defenders thread confirming the points allocated (although not officially confirmed, it seems legit): http://www.supercoachscores.com/thr...ussions/page32?p=235526&viewfull=1#post235526
Thanks mate.

That is a lot different. I was initially thinking that defenders would get 5 points for those short kick ins to players on their own which would be HUGE!
 

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Thanks mate.

That is a lot different. I was initially thinking that defenders would get 5 points for those short kick ins to players on their own which would be HUGE!
Yeah figured you probably misunderstood what I meant, sorry for the confusion. Rules are the same as last year for kick ins.
 
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50m penalty -8.5 points yikes... anyone have stats on who gave the most 50s last year? (just kidding) :D

I'd be interested to know how many of these have been changed or are new actually.
Would have been Courtney Dempsey. :p
 
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Cheers I just found the article too. It sounds ridiculous if it's true. I'm sure Blics got points last year when he did an effective one. I would assume a third man up hitout to advantage would get 5 points. Would be great to confirm, I'll send some tweets out ha!
It does seem quite odd that 3rd man up HTA are not scorers. I wonder if third man up HTDA is a negative scorer??
If not scored on the basis of not being the primary ruckman you'd think at least it'd be recorded as a 1%/knock-on/whatever..... it can't just be nothing!







p.s not sure selecting Blicavs with 3rd man ups in mind is a good idea anyway.
 
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It does seem quite odd that 3rd man up HTA are not scorers. I wonder if third man up HTDA is a negative scorer??
The way that i read it is that a normal hitout and normal 3rd man up hitout that end up in a ball up etc are awarded 0 points. However any hitout that goes to advantage whether it is from ruckman or from 3rd man up earns 5 points.
 
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