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Hi Rowsus, hope you are well.

I recognise how difficult this may be to quantify, and am aware you may have attempted this before, but if you were to put a monetary value on a trade, what would it be? I'm trying to work out whether a downgrade of Mills to Papley (which I predict in the long-run to earn me $66k more than I would have had with Mills) is worth it, I'm doubting that it is.

Secondly, are you able to place a point value to a trade? Ie is doing a certain trade justified if you predict it will earn you 250 points, for example.

Thanks very much!
 
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Hey Rowsus,

Just after an opinion on my trade thoughts for this week. I'm currently behind the 8-ball in terms of overall, sitting around the 40k mark (around 400-500 points behind the pack). Generally I conserve trades and play the long game to catch up on the leaders, allowing myself a few trades early to remedy my rookies etc.

My current situation is that my rookies are solid, with only Gresham and Ellis below-par. Papley is the only rookie i'm keen to bring in, most likely at the expense of Gresh. My other concerns are Rocky, Barlow, JPK and Yeo. I'm happy to keep the faith with Barlow, Yeo and JPK, however I think Rocky needs to go.

Gresham/Ellis --> Papley (via DPP)
Rocky --> Any mid 624k or below. (*Gresham)

Currently tossing up between Ablett & Libba. I initially thought Libba wouldn't be back to his best until mid-season, though his start has me thinking he might be a cheap keeper. Ablett on the other hand I didn't pick because I didn't trust his body to last 22 games, though he'd be a nice captain option at this stage...
So, do I stick to my guns and forget about Libba/GAJ and pick a POD or do I suck the proverbial egg and go for it? Is Libba a must-have? Papley?

Sorry for rambling!
 

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Hi Row,

in before the masses!

my query and theory as follow. I have Rocky, Barlow, and no Papley or Libba (fwd rookies are Milera and McCarthy). In my haste this morning i traded Barlow to Papley and Gresham to Libba. I'm ranked 21k from 16k but still have the bones of a team i'm happy with. T Adams and Selwood are slight concerns but i'm not jumping off them after two games as i picked them based on research and faith.

However, and here's the theory part, Barlow's history is good and he is in a Freo team not playing well atm. Papley will make money quickly but i'm not sure he'll make too much more than my other rookies. I've missed his two tonnes and no other history dictates the scoring will continue. Therefore i'm considering holding fire and having some faith in the team i started. Rocky may be injured, and becomes a Donut which i'm okay with. When he plays, he'll turn things around. Libba is an unfortunate miss but he will have some challenging games moving forward and i'll just have to plan a good Mid upgrade early on to counter this.

Question then, does holding fire make sense, or do i get the corrections done?? Thanks in advance!!
Hi ****,
holding fire makes perfect sense. It's really dangerous to drastically alter our expectations on a player (either up or down!) on the back of less than 5 or 6 games data. Sometimes we are sort of forced into doing it with less, but I'm not sure that description applies here. We set a range for our players when we choose them. Some do it consciously, some do it sub-consciously, but we do it. My range on Barlow looked something like: highside 22/107 and my lowside was 17/85, with a reasonable expectation of 20/97. Even if he is heading to our lower limit, he will be 15/88 from here. Now, while that is disappointing, it's not a disaster, and it's our worst case scenario. If we downgrade our reasonable expectation to 20/93, he is looking at 18/96 from here. Perfectly acceptable! People shift their expectations too far, too early. Sometimes it works out for them, other times it's a problem. Now, given the scarcity of trades late in the season, shouldn't the idea be, that we err on the side of caution? What would be the bigger mistake? Keeping Barlow, and he stinks it up, or trading Barlow, and he ends up with something like 20/96? Given the second option involves both using a trade, and taking a risk on, that whoever you trade in doing any better, the bigger mistake would appear to be trading Barlow out.
The Rocky/Libba problem is similar, but not exactly the same. You obviously thought Libba wouldn't reach Keeper status, because you didn't select him. Is it fair to totally reassess that, on the back of two very easy wins? Some will say it's now or never, but I think there is often more reward in sticking to your guns/opinion. Would he be a bad pick? Probably not. Is he worth a trade from here? The jury is still out on that one. Your idea to counter it by a good upgrade is not a bad one.
I think Gresham to Papley, via Kerridge, is probably your best move this week.
Good luck, whichever way you jump!
 

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Hey Rowsus;

I just want to run this possibility by you.

My current rookies are so:

D: Amt, Brown, Hartley, Uebergang.

M: Menadue, Hewett, Dunkley, Davis

R: Wyatt

F: Kerridge, Adams, Papley, McCarthy

I have about $24k in the bank & 30 trades left.

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As many people do, I have Rockliff and Barlow. Though I loathe trading out premiums, but with question marks over the selection of both players, I have a scenario question.

Say, for example, Rockliff misses one or two games. Normally I'd stick him on the bench and wait it out, but since his B/E is so high, he's due to plummet in value. Normally, this would be a non-issue as I'll be keeping Rocky, but in this particular instance, would it be wise to trade Rocky to Ben Kennedy; bank the cash and consider bringing Rocky back in in about a month or so, when he, hopefully, bottoms out?

I know replacing a premium with a rookie is a big no-no; but so far, Ben-Ken has outscored Rocky; that might not keep up; but I do have a decent flexibility with my rookies. Alternatively, I could use no trades and let Ben Ken go; trade Rocky to a cheaper premium and someone like Dunkley up, or just trade Rocky to a premium.

I know having $380k on the bench is a lot; but if I can cover with a couple of decent rookie scores 80+, I reckon I'll be well served by saving it for a couple of weeks, letting someone like Priddis or Danger fall a bit, and picking them up for a swelling rookie.

PS: I'm a little unsure about how to cull rookies. Say I can afford the Premium I want - Priddis for example. I can get him using Hewett, who is priced at 350k; averaging 80, or Dunkley, priced at 250k, averaging 60. If both players are bench options, who do I get rid of? I've usually gone with Dunkley, because Hewett is probably the safer option to come onto the field, but something tells me I'm going about it the wrong way.
Hey Eagling,
given you have 9 of the top 11 Rookies, as far B/E's go, Kennedy is missable, if you decided to go that route. I myself started without Rocky, as I was concerned at how easy/often he has been getting injured. If your concerns have reached a similar level, then Rocky to Kennedy is an acceptable path, if you can't find another Keeper you have strong confidence in, in that price range. If your concerns aren't that high, I'd hang onto him, and forego Kennedy. I don't like the idea of trading Rocky out, with the idea of trading him back in. The difference between your selling price, and your buying price won't be big enough to warrant it. My thoughts are, you either have a big enough opinion of him to ride this out, or you quit him, and forget him. Last season showed us several times, the danger of trading back in, players we had already traded out.
In the trading scenario you painted, I would keep Hewett, and trade Dunkley, but not for the reasons you stated. Decisions on rookies should be made from a dollar, and not a point basis. In your scenario both Rookies have about $40k to make before topping out, given the info at hand. The higher averaging Rookie is more likely to post 100+ score, and reignite his growth (as well as potentially give you better coverage.) If you have to choose between 2 Rookies, and everything else seems equal, keep the one that seems more likely to re-ignite his growth.
 

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Hi Rowsus

As a fellow Mcgovern owner has your opinion changed on him since preseason? Im thinking of offloading him over the more proven premiums in Rocky and Barlow. Ideally I'd dump De Goey and Gresham for Libba and Papley (must haves) but I'm agonisingly 2k short so have to find someone else. What are your thoughts on Mcgovern from here on in? Likely top 10 defender?
Hi MrM,
I wasn't completely bullish on him, in fact he was pretty much the last picked in my team! Likely top 10 Def?..... probably not, top 15 or 18 I would more say. I did say I liked him more than Yeo, and would benefit more than Yeo with the return of the bigger Defs. One thing I like about McG, is he can score wellish with few touches. That's a bonus! Gresham for Papley seems an easy choice. As to your other trade, I'd just advise on erring on the side of caution.
 

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Hey Rowsus,

Hope you're well mate. One of my best mates is heading over to the Netherlands to play cricket for the summer so I've told him to head north and hunt you down if he needs any Supercoach advise or just talk AFL with someone!

I recall you being pretty big on Tom Mitchell during the pre-season and his stats in your pre-season analysis thread to this point in his career were awesome. I am looking at him as a potential POD replacement for Rocky. Parker is the obvious choice but he seems to be everyones choice and I am still worried he could be moved forward when required. Tom Mitchell has started the season with a bang and seems to be playing almost pure mid but is he worth the risk at 30k more than Parker? Is any Swans mid worth the risk considering their midfield depth?

Would love your thoughts.
Zoku Pops, I think you will find your answer here http://www.supercoachscores.com/threads/2766-Rowsus-Tables-And-Analysis-Of-2015-Season/page6 see post 111. Pretty sure those who followed Rowsus's reasoning are not unhappy.
Hey ZP, I'm well thanks, and hope you are too.
I'd definitely spend the $26k to get Mitchell over Parker. As chels points out, history says he will beat Parker, and that's all we have to base our decisions on here. Yes, there is some implied risk with Syd Mids, but I think it's an acceptable risk.
 

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Hi Rowsus, hope you are well.

I recognise how difficult this may be to quantify, and am aware you may have attempted this before, but if you were to put a monetary value on a trade, what would it be? I'm trying to work out whether a downgrade of Mills to Papley (which I predict in the long-run to earn me $66k more than I would have had with Mills) is worth it, I'm doubting that it is.

Secondly, are you able to place a point value to a trade? Ie is doing a certain trade justified if you predict it will earn you 250 points, for example.

Thanks very much!
Hi Suits, I'm well, and hope you are too.
Yes, it is a question that has been answered 3 or 4 times in this thread, but I don't expect you to hunt through nearly 6,000 posts to find them.
The value varies depending on round and circumstance. In rough approximate figures: trade = 200 points or $85k.
 

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Hey Rowsus,

Just after an opinion on my trade thoughts for this week. I'm currently behind the 8-ball in terms of overall, sitting around the 40k mark (around 400-500 points behind the pack). Generally I conserve trades and play the long game to catch up on the leaders, allowing myself a few trades early to remedy my rookies etc.

My current situation is that my rookies are solid, with only Gresham and Ellis below-par. Papley is the only rookie i'm keen to bring in, most likely at the expense of Gresh. My other concerns are Rocky, Barlow, JPK and Yeo. I'm happy to keep the faith with Barlow, Yeo and JPK, however I think Rocky needs to go.

Gresham/Ellis --> Papley (via DPP)
Rocky --> Any mid 624k or below. (*Gresham)

Currently tossing up between Ablett & Libba. I initially thought Libba wouldn't be back to his best until mid-season, though his start has me thinking he might be a cheap keeper. Ablett on the other hand I didn't pick because I didn't trust his body to last 22 games, though he'd be a nice captain option at this stage...
So, do I stick to my guns and forget about Libba/GAJ and pick a POD or do I suck the proverbial egg and go for it? Is Libba a must-have? Papley?

Sorry for rambling!
Hey MC's Mix,
I wouldn't declare either of Libba or Papsley as must haves, but certainly the teams that have both look better than most teams that don't....... for now, anyway! My thinking is, it is too early to fully assess Libba yet, as they haven't had a tough game. Of course, it's nearly now or never, if you think you want him. My gut feel is, not having Ablett is potentially more damaging than not having Libba. Especially given the Captain value he can deliver. If you decide to trade Rocky out, I'd go Ablett.
 

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For those posting questions in here the next 2 days, please keep in mind I will be travelling most of the time until Thursday morning, so getting answers may be delayed a bit.
 
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Hey Eagling,
given you have 9 of the top 11 Rookies, as far B/E's go, Kennedy is missable, if you decided to go that route. I myself started without Rocky, as I was concerned at how easy/often he has been getting injured. If your concerns have reached a similar level, then Rocky to Kennedy is an acceptable path, if you can't find another Keeper you have strong confidence in, in that price range. If your concerns aren't that high, I'd hang onto him, and forego Kennedy. I don't like the idea of trading Rocky out, with the idea of trading him back in. The difference between your selling price, and your buying price won't be big enough to warrant it. My thoughts are, you either have a big enough opinion of him to ride this out, or you quit him, and forget him. Last season showed us several times, the danger of trading back in, players we had already traded out.
In the trading scenario you painted, I would keep Hewett, and trade Dunkley, but not for the reasons you stated. Decisions on rookies should be made from a dollar, and not a point basis. In your scenario both Rookies have about $40k to make before topping out, given the info at hand. The higher averaging Rookie is more likely to post 100+ score, and reignite his growth (as well as potentially give you better coverage.) If you have to choose between 2 Rookies, and everything else seems equal, keep the one that seems more likely to re-ignite his growth.
Sorry, Rowsus, unfortunately, I must spread some reputation around before giving some to you.

Thanks for answering my question; I thought Ben Kennedy might be a must-have, but if he isn't, I'm happy to keep Rockliff. In fact, going into round 4 with all my trades remaining sounds like a very palatable thought.
 
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Hey Rowsus,

Do you think Rocky should go?
Now confirmed out for two weeks minimum with niggling calf injury I am thinking he should go.
I am thinking of giving Barlow another chance and hope Ross plays him in the middle this week.
However Rocky is puzzling me.
Was thinking Gresham to Papley (via Menadue) and Rocky to Libba + approx $260k which seems logical for me.
Or Option 2 Gresham to Papley and Rocky to R. Gray
Only concern is do u think Libba will continue? Up against Hawks this week!
 
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Hi Row,

In the same boat as a lot of people here.
Only rookie I might need is Papley.
Only rookie I could get rid of is Dunkley.
Have Barlow and Rocky but will keep both.
Have Crouch and Ah Chee, and no Libba.
Really want to give Ah Chee another week.

My thinking is either Dunkley (dropped or not?) to Papley or not worry with Papley and do no trades.

Your thoughts appreciated.
 
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Hey Rowsus,
What do you think about Andrew Gaff going over 90.5 against fremantle at $1.87 this week?
 
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Row,

How do you see Callum Mills's scoring trajectory? As much of a gun as he is (and equally assured a place in that Sydney lineup), if he keeps scoring 70s then I question his cash generating success given his starting price.

I know you don't have a crystal ball that predicts players scores, but I am seriously considering downgrading he or Oliver to Papley. Is this folly?
 
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Hey Rowsus , i have bit of different question then normal :p
Im from the sticks and was wondering if a guy is a having a few beers lets say 8-12 and there schooners, at a inner city bar in melbourne with a bunch of supercoach brethren what would be a acceptable monetary amount one would need to enjoy a evening like this ? im sure there is a few variances and unforeseen costs involved but was hoping you may have a formula, spreadsheet or analysis that could help :)

P.S
also is there any chance i will have trades left for finals in 2016 :p
 
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Hey Rowsus , i have bit of different question then normal :p
Im from the sticks and was wondering if a guy is a having a few beers lets say 8-12 and there schooners, at a inner city bar in melbourne with a bunch of supercoach brethren what would be a acceptable monetary amount one would need to enjoy a evening like this ? im sure there is a few variances and unforeseen costs involved but was hoping you may have a formula, spreadsheet or analysis that could help :)

P.S
also is there any chance i will have trades left for finals in 2016 :p
Hope I can shed some light on your situation while the great man is currently in the air.
With regards to the funds situation, it all depends who you are in a shout with. If drinking with Jay, IDIG, Rowsus, Phil, Thanh, PC and of course Ben. Bring plenty, these guys are known party animals who go pretty hard. If in a shout with blokes like myself, you wont need that much. I'm known for my responsible drinking and only enjoy the odd sip.
As for your trade question, I'd say it will be the same response as last year. No hope my friend.
Hope this helps ol mate.
 
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