Opinion Round 5: Teams and In Game Discussions

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Hate to say it but I don't think Menadue is up to AFL standards.

Looked completely lost on the ground and when he does have the ball, does nothing with it. Need to go back to the 2's to regain some bad needed touch and confidence.

I'll be surprised to see his name in the teams next week.
This is why we both have him on the bench. Gawn is probably going to win the game for me in Courting Favours. Menadue will be a good donut for me regardless.
 
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I dont think you've taken into account the fact that 3 of Rance's kicks went straight on the full. It's worse to have a clanger kick by itself than the combination of an effective kick+free kick against. Talking about "unseen" stats, there are two sides to it. On one hand, we do not have access to his spoil numbers, but on the other many CLEAR clangers are also not registered, and those that were actually positively contribtued to his score. If you're so keen in defending him, would you like to explain why he got +4 to 5 from 3 clanger kicks when Houli got -3 from 1 clanger kick?
The live scores clearly aren't all live.

Sometimes players get 0 points for something and 10 points for nothing. With all the things that get scored within a contest you cannot expect all scores to magically update. The idea of CD golden boys is rediculous and you are slowly ruining the in game threads for me.
 

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I'll defend it. 11 disposals with 7 contested @ 70% DE, 3 marks with 2 contested, 3 R50, 1 free kick FOR, 0 free kicks AGAINST, 2 tackles, 5 1%ers, 1 goal assist and 3-5 spoils. If the free kicks against actually go onto his stat sheet, then he should lose 10-15 points.

As i said in a previous post, Rance seems to get "over scored" because he gets a good amount of his score from "unseen" places like spoils and 1%ers. He also has 2 contested marks from opposition kicks which score well.
Rance is a total gun. Best defender in the comp and gets great sc points. Get on it...
 
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He's had 5 scores so far all between 64 and 95 including 75 this week. Hardly premo scoring and i'm losing faith unfortunately, just doesn't look promising!
I'm pretty sure that I saw people want to trade Gawn out after Round 2. Now look at the general consensus. Is there any discernible reason for Jacob's low scores, that you can tell?
 
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I dont think anyone can defend rances extremely highly inflated score.
Remember you get more points down back than elsewhere. CPs are often worth 4 in the D50, compared to 3 elsewhere, while uncontested marks from a teamate are often worth 2 in defence compared to 1 elsewhere.

Rance has 7 CP for probably 28 points + 2 contested marks from oppo for 12 points + 1 uncontested mark for probably 2 points + 6 effective kicks for 18 points + 2 handballs for 2 points + 2 tackles for 6 points + a score assist for 3 points + 1 free for/against which even out + 3 clangers for -9 points = 62!
 
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I'm pretty sure that I saw people want to trade Gawn out after Round 2. Now look at the general consensus. Is there any discernible reason for Jacob's low scores, that you can tell?
To be honest I'm not completely across how they are scoring these h2a's now, seems pretty confusing to me as Jacobs looks fairly solid in the games I've watched. I'm guessing a lot of his hitouts are too lineball and he's not getting scored for them. Maybe not doing quite as much around the ground this year, but as said still looks very competitive in a pure football sense.
 
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I'm very tempted to do that trade, going to cost us about 100k though. Have Fyfe to deal with as well..... going to need to make some tough decisions this week.
Was an honour to witness one of the all time best Sauce Jacobs rants last weekend.
I suggest you consider the Sauce to Max trade.
May not gain you any points, but it will do wonders for your sanity Philzsay.
 

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Both Ben Kennedy (B/E 56) and Menadue (B/E 34) looking like the might lose cash this week. Need to find a bit more of the pill!
 
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To be honest I'm not completely across how they are scoring these h2a's now, seems pretty confusing to me as Jacobs looks fairly solid in the games I've watched. I'm guessing a lot of his hitouts are too lineball and he's not getting scored for them. Maybe not doing wuite as much around the ground this year, but as said still looks very competitive in a pure gotball sense.
In that case, I'd back him in. I know it's not much when I'm not the one suffering his scores, but I generally keep the faith with premium and pseudo-premium selections, for better or worse.
 

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Bloody BK. Wish I traded him out over Papley. Going to lose money. Don't you love hindsight.
 

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Wagner doing well. Anyone bring him in this week? Almost a forgotten one with so many rookie defenders on offer this week.
 
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I dont think you've taken into account the fact that 3 of Rance's kicks went straight on the full. It's worse to have a clanger kick by itself than the combination of an effective kick+free kick against. Talking about "unseen" stats, there are two sides to it. On one hand, we do not have access to his spoil numbers, but on the other many CLEAR clangers are also not registered, and those that were actually positively contribtued to his score. If you're so keen in defending him, would you like to explain why he got +4 to 5 from 3 clanger kicks when Houli got -3 from 1 clanger kick?
I'm defending Rance, not CDs inability to score correctly or effectively. How CD score different players for what looks to be the exact same stat has nothing to do with the actual players. This type of thing happens every season with different players but there's nothing we can do about it, except get that player in your team and make the most of it.
 

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Dees

11 Max Gawn 140
7 Jack Viney 99
4 Jack Watts 79
12 Dom Tyson 76
36 Jeff Garlett 66
42 Josh Wagner 66
23 Bernie Vince 63
32 Tomas Bugg 61
3 Christian Salem 59
14 Lynden Dunn 59
16 Dean Kent 58
8 Heritier Lumumba 52
21 Cameron Pedersen 51
39 Neville Jetta 51
25 Tom McDonald 51
10 Angus Brayshaw 47
43 James Harmes 44
2 Nathan Jones 43
29 Jayden Hunt 41
1 Jesse Hogan 32
17 Sam Frost 31
35 Ben Kennedy 25

TOTAL 1294

Richmond

8 Jack Riewoldt 103
9 Trent Cotchin 80
18 Alex Rance 73
27 Sam Lloyd 69
26 Anthony Miles 65
4 Dustin Martin 62
6 Shaun Grigg 61
10 Shane Edwards 56
33 Kamdyn McIntosh 53
5 Brandon Ellis 49
20 Ivan Maric 48
29 Ty Vickery 48
12 David Astbury 46
25 Troy Chaplin 45
14 Bachar Houli 36
17 Daniel Rioli 35
21 Jacob Townsend 32
23 Kane Lambert 26
37 Connor Menadue 18
11 Jake Batchelor 18
38 Steven Morris 15
32 Corey Ellis 9

TOTAL 1047
 
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LIVE SCORES FROM THE CURRENT MATCH

3 Qtr Time

MELBOURNE 14.7.91

PLAYER SUPERCOACH

11 Max Gawn 140
7 Jack Viney 99
4 Jack Watts 79
12 Dom Tyson 76
36 Jeff Garlett 66
42 Josh Wagner 66
23 Bernie Vince 63
32 Tomas Bugg 61
3 Christian Salem 59
14 Lynden Dunn 59
16 Dean Kent 58
8 Heritier Lumumba 52
21 Cameron Pedersen 51
39 Neville Jetta 51
25 Tom McDonald 51
10 Angus Brayshaw 47
43 James Harmes 44
2 Nathan Jones 43
29 Jayden Hunt 41
1 Jesse Hogan 32
17 Sam Frost 31
35 Ben Kennedy 25
TOTAL1294

RICHMOND 11.9.75

PLAYER SUPERCOACH

8 Jack Riewoldt 103
9 Trent Cotchin 81
18 Alex Rance 73
27 Sam Lloyd 69
26 Anthony Miles 66
4 Dustin Martin 62
6 Shaun Grigg 61
10 Shane Edwards 56
33 Kamdyn McIntosh 53
5 Brandon Ellis 48
20 Ivan Maric 48
29 Ty Vickery 48
12 David Astbury 46
25 Troy Chaplin 45
14 Bachar Houli 36
17 Daniel Rioli 35
21 Jacob Townsend 32
23 Kane Lambert 26
37 Connor Menadue 18
11 Jake Batchelor 18
38 Steven Morris 15
32 Corey Ellis 9
TOTAL1048
 
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