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I'd have a read of LITS advice in the games thread. WCE didn't name Giles as an emergency so there's absolutely no way Lycett doesn't play. If there was any doubt, Giles would've been emergency. The rumours have come due to him not training on Monday, so I don't think there's much substance in them.

As for your question, I'd definitely trade Wells to Zorko. Will gain you ~70 points now and probably another 70 points down the track when Wells misses again (you know he will with his history).
Was literally just about to go and find LITS post in the Round 16 Discussion Thread lol
 
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@Jmack

I'd have a read of LITS advice in the games thread. WCE didn't name Giles as an emergency so there's absolutely no way Lycett doesn't play. If there was any doubt, Giles would've been emergency. The rumours have come due to him not training on Monday, so I don't think there's much substance in them.

As for your question, I'd definitely trade Wells to Zorko. Will gain you ~70 points now and probably another 70 points down the track when Wells misses again (you know he will with his history).
Thanks mate, didn't take a look at that but knowing that changes things completely!
Also appreciate the advice RE: Wells to Zorko, that was what I was leaning towards!
 

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Thanks mate, didn't take a look at that but knowing that changes things completely!
Also appreciate the advice RE: Wells to Zorko, that was what I was leaning towards!
It's worth noting that Howe has been playing down back, and has seemingly averaged 102 across 7 games in that position. That includes a slightly lower TOG game, when he apparently had a twinge early on.

If you think he can keep that up, you might even find that he is a viable starting choice, improving the points benefit from the trade.

Note that he has been down a little recently, and that the Pies have a tough draw (albeit that doesn't seem to have been a major driver of Howe's scores recently).
 

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It's worth noting that Howe has been playing down back, and has seemingly averaged 102 across 7 games in that position. That includes a slightly lower TOG game, when he apparently had a twinge early on.

If you think he can keep that up, you might even find that he is a viable starting choice, improving the points benefit from the trade.

Note that he has been down a little recently, and that the Pies have a tough draw (albeit that doesn't seem to have been a major driver of Howe's scores recently).
Yeah I'm trading in Howe this week to avoid the Barlow/Wells donut.

He was always in my plans to bring in as cover, however, now I have will bring him in before Boyd/JJ/Williams/Pittard/Rance to avoid FWD donut.
Will be looking to use him and McVeigh through D6 in a week or so once I add one of those other premiums.
 

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I need your guidance Rowsus!
I just got home from work to see that Rose (my emergency for Wells) scored 31 :mad: The only good thing is that I have the E on him, so I'm not locked in to taking his score.
And now to add to that there are rumours Lycett might miss which would cause me to have a donut as I only have the one playing emergency in Rose :(
If this eventuates I can see myself falling massively in overall ranking, probably outside the top 100!

Currently have $227,800 and 6 trades so have a little bit of flexibility. I was planning on trading Rose to Zorko in a few weeks which would give me 7 forward premiums, but I think those plans are thrown out the window now because of Rose's poor score and the likelihood of him getting dropped next week.
So as I see them, my options are:

A) Trade Wells to Zorko. Basically a straight swap so I still keep my bank. Means if Lycett misses I still have Rose's 31 as emergency.

B) Trade Collins to Howe. Have Uebergang in my forward line so this trade would give me a solid D/F swinger that I could loophole and would provide solid cover for the rest of the season not only in defence and forward but also in my midfield because of M/F DPP. This also gives me Rose's 31 if Lycett is a late out. Cons are that it uses most of my bank and means I'm trading out Collins early before he has a huge price rise (BE of -32). Although with limited trades I was planning on keeping him as cover for the season, so I suppose in that way his price isn't really relevant.

C) Hold trades. Just cop the 31 from Rose and pray that Lycett plays. And then next week when Rose presumably gets dropped or his BE rises, trade him to the best forward available under $475,000 (Buddy, Greene, Boomer, Lynch, etc.). But will Wells even be back next week? Seems like this injury keeps dragging on!

I really value your opinion Rowsus, so please let me know which option you think is the best one for me to take.

EDIT: Just realised that another option could be to go with both options A & B and trade in both Zorko & Howe for Wells & Collins. Leaves me with only 4 trades, but means I wouldn't have to even rely on Rose's 31 if Lycett misses.
@Jmack

I'd have a read of LITS advice in the games thread. WCE didn't name Giles as an emergency so there's absolutely no way Lycett doesn't play. If there was any doubt, Giles would've been emergency. The rumours have come due to him not training on Monday, so I don't think there's much substance in them.

As for your question, I'd definitely trade Wells to Zorko. Will gain you ~70 points now and probably another 70 points down the track when Wells misses again (you know he will with his history).
Was literally just about to go and find LITS post in the Round 16 Discussion Thread lol
Thanks mate, didn't take a look at that but knowing that changes things completely!
Also appreciate the advice RE: Wells to Zorko, that was what I was leaning towards!
It's worth noting that Howe has been playing down back, and has seemingly averaged 102 across 7 games in that position. That includes a slightly lower TOG game, when he apparently had a twinge early on.

If you think he can keep that up, you might even find that he is a viable starting choice, improving the points benefit from the trade.

Note that he has been down a little recently, and that the Pies have a tough draw (albeit that doesn't seem to have been a major driver of Howe's scores recently).
Yeah I'm trading in Howe this week to avoid the Barlow/Wells donut.

He was always in my plans to bring in as cover, however, now I have will bring him in before Boyd/JJ/Williams/Pittard/Rance to avoid FWD donut.
Will be looking to use him and McVeigh through D6 in a week or so once I add one of those other premiums.
Hi jmack5, congratulations on your surge up the rankings. I hope it keeps going.
B18 and I have been agreeing on a lot of things this week, and I agree with him again, when he advised you should be considering Wells to Zorko, irrespective of the Lycett situation. You are still a chance to win the whole shooting match, but can't afford to be giving up "simple" points, if you are going to make or hold ground.

As to the Lycett situation, I would prefer to answer that in a PM. Given you are in contention, you should be careful with what information and tactics you share in public forums. You never know who of the others in contention may be swayed by information you divulge!
 

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Hi Rowan

Given you were the man to identify the phenomenon that is a CLYPer (Chasing last years points), what chance do you give The Bont to overcome the hoodoo and join supercoach elite?

Are we more likely to see

He didn't exactly score well against St Kilda (79), Geelong (86), North (85), Collingwood (78) when he played them earlier this year. Score of 110 vs. Freo is alright, hasn't played GC or Essendon yet this year.
or a continued run of form to allow him to rise above last years 103.3?
 
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Hey Rowan,

Just going to ask the question on everyone's lips: who is the ideal replacement for Gaz (IYO)? :p
 

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Hey Rowan,

Just going to ask the question on everyone's lips: who is the ideal replacement for Gaz (IYO)? :p
Such a key question. Row, if you're open to the idea, I think it might save you a few questions overall if you come up with a bit of a pecking order, especially amongst the main candidates for "next man in" (Sloane, Neale, GWS boys, eg).

Also, if you have a view on Clay Smith, I would be interested. I don't need him, or the cash he could free up - but if he's significantly better cover than Petracca/Trengove/Mathieson/Phillips in your view, I'd be open to bringing him in. I've been a bit underwhelmed by that lot in the last couple of weeks! Thanks :)
 

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Hey Rowan,

Just going to ask the question on everyone's lips: who is the ideal replacement for Gaz (IYO)? :p
I think your answer could be different to everyone else's answer as you might be also looking at closing off negative PODs to those around you at the top. I haven't gone through them in depth but just on first look 2nd has Steven and Rocky as potential negative PODs (he already has Sloane too). He doesn't have Parker or Hanners so I think he might target one those two, probably Hanners. 1st, 3rd and 5th don't have Sloane so I think he has to be the no.1 trade in target for them.

You could either try close off a negative POD in Steven on 2nd and then just leave Parker vs his Rocky as your difference. Or you could open up another unique pick and jump on Neale (or even Bont!). It's really going to be an interesting situation at the top I feel!
I'm not sure whether that really answers your question, but maybe just have opened more points to consider.

If I was in your position, I might consider closing off the negative POD. Although everyone seems to be considering Neale, Bont, Sloane (or other popular picks they don't have like Hanners/Parker/Ward) as the obvious replacements, potentially it might be better to try close off the negative POD in Steven who has shown his ability to score really big at ES this season. Saints have 5/7 at ES on the run home so there could be a few more 130+ Steven scores to come! I'm not a fan of Neale's draw personally.
 

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Hi Rowan

Given you were the man to identify the phenomenon that is a CLYPer (Chasing last years points), what chance do you give The Bont to overcome the hoodoo and join supercoach elite?

Are we more likely to see


or a continued run of form to allow him to rise above last years 103.3?
For those a bit confused about what KLo30 is refering to, look here: 2014 Chasing Last Years Points

What it tells us, in a nutshell, is that by the end of the 2014, 35 players had achieved both of:
A jump in ave of 20/game or more, from the previous season.
A seasons average of 102 or higher in the season they had the jump.

Of these 35 players, only 3 managed to record an increase in average the next season: Ablett, Swan and Liberatore.

There were 10 players that achieved this double in 2014, bringing the total to 45 players.
How did these players fare in 2015?

[table="width: 600, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]PLAYER[/td]
[td]2013[/td]
[td]2014[/td]
[td]2015[/td]
[td]Difference[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Gray R[/td]
[td]82.1[/td]
[td]111.0[/td]
[td]110.4[/td]
[td]-0.6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Greene[/td]
[td]73.2[/td]
[td]102.9[/td]
[td]82.8[/td]
[td]-20.1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Jacobs[/td]
[td]85.3[/td]
[td]115.4[/td]
[td]108.0[/td]
[td]-7.4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Martin S[/td]
[td]45.0[/td]
[td]111.7[/td]
[td]110.8[/td]
[td]-0.9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Mumford[/td]
[td]91.9[/td]
[td]114.2[/td]
[td]105.7[/td]
[td]-8.5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Parker[/td]
[td]86.9[/td]
[td]108.5[/td]
[td]99.7[/td]
[td]-8.8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Rockliff[/td]
[td]109.7[/td]
[td]132.0[/td]
[td]101.9[/td]
[td]-30.1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Sandilands[/td]
[td]64.0[/td]
[td]108.0[/td]
[td]107.8[/td]
[td]-0.2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Swallow D[/td]
[td]79.6[/td]
[td]103.2[/td]
[td]85.8[/td]
[td]-17.4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Treloar[/td]
[td]87.1[/td]
[td]107.5[/td]
[td]106.8[/td]
[td]-0.7[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

10 out 10 failed to beat the curse last season, bringing the total to just 3 out of 45 players, who have managed to beat the curse.

This leads us to ask: Who are the cursed players from 2015?

[table="width: 500, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]PLAYER[/td]
[td]2014[/td]
[td]2015[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Blicavs[/td]
[td]69.2[/td]
[td]104.3[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Bontempelli[/td]
[td]78.6[/td]
[td]103.2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Gawn[/td]
[td]63.2[/td]
[td]102.1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Goldstein[/td]
[td]106.9[/td]
[td]128.8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Mitchell T[/td]
[td]83.8[/td]
[td]104.5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Shaw H[/td]
[td]92.6[/td]
[td]112.6[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

So, back to KLo30's question.
What chance do I give Bontempelli of overcoming this curse?

I actually rate him a really good chance. I think he's an exception to the rule, and the reasons are simple.
He's showing leadership and maturity beyond his relative inexperience.
He's a contested beast.
He inserts himself where needed in close games. Demonstrated by him drifting back behind play to take intercept marks in the last quarter last week. This habit is SC gold. If he's needed forward, he goes forward, and kicks, or is involved in the match winning goal, as demonstated the week before. He's a Hird/Fyfe/Pendlebury type, that reads the game, and does what is needed. He doesn't need, or wait, for the coach to tell him.

The other reason is, his comparison to a young Pendlebury or Fyfe is a very close thing! They became bankable Mid Prems around or just after their 50th games. Bontempelli has played 52 games. Let's break their games into 10 game blocks.



We can see he compares quite well against two of the best in the game, for the same stage of their careers, We know where their careers went from this point, as we can see in their next 30 games in the table. I believe the writing is on the wall, for Bontempelli to follow closely in their career footsteps.
 
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Like the analysis Rowsus :)

Of course the key question is - when he will follow closely in their career footsteps...ie will the journey continue this year or start afresh next year?
 
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Rowsus

With 8 trades left (not including one for GAJ) do you think it would be a good "investment" to get Clay Smith in for one of Hams or Trengrove? He seems like great fwd/mid cover at a very low cost. Have $42k in the bank but could be more depending who I get in for GAJ. Still have Collins, Brand and Menadue slowly moooing along so a bit of cash there for later bench upgrades/onfield improvements in finals.

Cheers
 

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For those a bit confused about what KLo30 is refering to, look here: 2014 Chasing Last Years Points

What it tells us, in a nutshell, is that by the end of the 2014, 35 players had achieved both of:
A jump in ave of 20/game or more, from the previous season.
A seasons average of 102 or higher in the season they had the jump.

Of these 35 players, only 3 managed to record an increase in average the next season: Ablett, Swan and Liberatore.

There were 10 players that achieved this double in 2014, bringing the total to 45 players.
How did these players fare in 2015?

[table="width: 600, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]PLAYER[/td]
[td]2013[/td]
[td]2014[/td]
[td]2015[/td]
[td]Difference[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Gray R[/td]
[td]82.1[/td]
[td]111.0[/td]
[td]110.4[/td]
[td]-0.6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Greene[/td]
[td]73.2[/td]
[td]102.9[/td]
[td]82.8[/td]
[td]-20.1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Jacobs[/td]
[td]85.3[/td]
[td]115.4[/td]
[td]108.0[/td]
[td]-7.4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Martin S[/td]
[td]45.0[/td]
[td]111.7[/td]
[td]110.8[/td]
[td]-0.9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Mumford[/td]
[td]91.9[/td]
[td]114.2[/td]
[td]105.7[/td]
[td]-8.5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Parker[/td]
[td]86.9[/td]
[td]108.5[/td]
[td]99.7[/td]
[td]-8.8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Rockliff[/td]
[td]109.7[/td]
[td]132.0[/td]
[td]101.9[/td]
[td]-30.1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Sandilands[/td]
[td]64.0[/td]
[td]108.0[/td]
[td]107.8[/td]
[td]-0.2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Swallow D[/td]
[td]79.6[/td]
[td]103.2[/td]
[td]85.8[/td]
[td]-17.4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Treloar[/td]
[td]87.1[/td]
[td]107.5[/td]
[td]106.8[/td]
[td]-0.7[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

10 out 10 failed to beat the curse last season, bringing the total to just 3 out of 45 players, who have managed to beat the curse.

This leads us to ask: Who are the cursed players from 2015?

[table="width: 500, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]PLAYER[/td]
[td]2014[/td]
[td]2015[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Blicavs[/td]
[td]69.2[/td]
[td]104.3[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Bontempelli[/td]
[td]78.6[/td]
[td]103.2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Gawn[/td]
[td]63.2[/td]
[td]102.1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Goldstein[/td]
[td]106.9[/td]
[td]128.8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Mitchell T[/td]
[td]83.8[/td]
[td]104.5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Shaw H[/td]
[td]92.6[/td]
[td]112.6[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

So, back to KLo30's question.
What chance do I give Bontempelli of overcoming this curse?

I actually rate him a really good chance. I think he's an exception to the rule, and the reasons are simple.
He's showing leadership and maturity beyond his relative inexperience.
He's a contested beast.
He inserts himself where needed in close games. Demonstrated by him drifting back behind play to take intercept marks in the last quarter last week. This habit is SC gold. If he's needed forward, he goes forward, and kicks, or is involved in the match winning goal, as demonstated the week before. He's a Hird/Fyfe/Pendlebury type, that reads the game, and does what is needed. He doesn't need, or wait, for the coach to tell him.

The other reason is, his comparison to a young Pendlebury or Fyfe is a very close thing! They became bankable Mid Prems around or just after their 50th games. Bontempelli has played 52 games. Let's break their games into 10 game blocks.



We can see he compares quite well against two of the best in the game, for the same stage of their careers, We know where their careers went from this point, as we can see in their next 30 games in the table. I believe the writing is on the wall, for Bontempelli to follow closely in their career footsteps.
Fantastic analysis Rowsus! It was a great read. He really does have all the attributes to be the next Fyfe!
Just on that thought though, I know Fyfe has historically relied on those close games to really boost his scoring. I note that all of Bont's 120+ games have come in games decided by 13 or less points where he typically had big last quarters. Do you think that could work against him?

His run home is GCS, stk, GEE, nth, pies, ess, FRE [CAPs = AWAY]
They are all mainly really easy games like gcs, stk, ess, freo and potentially even nth and pies. GEE at SS seems the most likely game to be a close contest.
Could that be a problem to the Bont selection? Potentially it might mean he's averaging closer to ~110 rather than 125 during that period which would still make him a good pick. Would love to hear your thoughts.
 
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Hi Row,

i didn't pull the trigger on Libba to Hanners last week. That's lead me to a different question this week. Do you like Gaz --- Hanners, and Menadue --- Hall? Keeps Libba in my mids and Hall as M9 DPP loophole option. Leaves me 3 trades but good cover everywhere. Option 2 is Gaz --- Hanners, and Libba to Premo, leaving Menadue at M9.

interested in your thoughts.

Thanks as always!!!
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I think your answer could be different to everyone else's answer as you might be also looking at closing off negative PODs to those around you at the top. I haven't gone through them in depth but just on first look 2nd has Steven and Rocky as potential negative PODs (he already has Sloane too). He doesn't have Parker or Hanners so I think he might target one those two, probably Hanners. 1st, 3rd and 5th don't have Sloane so I think he has to be the no.1 trade in target for them.

You could either try close off a negative POD in Steven on 2nd and then just leave Parker vs his Rocky as your difference. Or you could open up another unique pick and jump on Neale (or even Bont!). It's really going to be an interesting situation at the top I feel!
I'm not sure whether that really answers your question, but maybe just have opened more points to consider.

If I was in your position, I might consider closing off the negative POD. Although everyone seems to be considering Neale, Bont, Sloane (or other popular picks they don't have like Hanners/Parker/Ward) as the obvious replacements, potentially it might be better to try close off the negative POD in Steven who has shown his ability to score really big at ES this season. Saints have 5/7 at ES on the run home so there could be a few more 130+ Steven scores to come! I'm not a fan of Neale's draw personally.
i agree that neale draw is not favorable however he is doing well against the hard and medium scoring teams. He scores approx 116 against the hard teams and 115 against the medium teams. His avg 119 in his last 8 games which includes the 50 against brisbane. he also plays very well in perth and he has a few games coming up. i dont think teams will bother putting attention into neale.

i agree that everyone position is different. you have identified some really good POD's and if i was chasing the ranking i would definitely consider the bont or stevens
 

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Hey Rowan,

Just going to ask the question on everyone's lips: who is the ideal replacement for Gaz (IYO)? :p
I'm currently working on a breakdown of their scoring, for the 20 most likely candidates to replace Ablett.
I hope to have it up around 6am tomorrow (Melbourne time).
 
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Hey Rowsus,

Made a rookie error last week and forgot I couldn't reverse trades after Thurs night game.
Brought in Buddy and Clay Smith accidentally for Kerridge and Tippa. Working out ok but disappointed in unloading Tippa especially as I am looking at Howe this week.
Just wondering who you would trade this week out of Hutchings and Petracca
Was thinking either:
Petracca or Hutchings and Gaz to Hanners and Howe
However I am faced with another option which is starting to appeal to me.
I have some cash leftover after last week, so rather than upgrade backline (need 1 more premo).
I can go Gaz and Libba to ZMerrett and premo mid other than Danger or Pendles eg. Bont/Sloane or Hanners
Or
Gaz and Libba to Zorko and anyone but Danger
Would leave me with 7 trades and one upgrade for backline
Would still have Hutchings/Petracca/CSmith on bench m/f as decent cover with only Ruggles or Collins to upgrade.
Probably works out ok providing Wells gets back.
Any thoughts appreciated as always

Edit: Just realised that would leave me with Cripps at M8

Guess it is either

A) Gaz & Libba or Cripps to Zorko/ZMerrett and best mid to $605k
B) Gaz & Hutchings or Petracca to Hanners and Howe

Option B leaves me Libba or Cripps at M9 - One fwd upgrade required
Option A leaves me one defence upgrade required
 
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For those a bit confused about what KLo30 is refering to, look here: 2014 Chasing Last Years Points

What it tells us, in a nutshell, is that by the end of the 2014, 35 players had achieved both of:
A jump in ave of 20/game or more, from the previous season.
A seasons average of 102 or higher in the season they had the jump.

Of these 35 players, only 3 managed to record an increase in average the next season: Ablett, Swan and Liberatore.

There were 10 players that achieved this double in 2014, bringing the total to 45 players.
How did these players fare in 2015?

[table="width: 600, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]PLAYER[/td]
[td]2013[/td]
[td]2014[/td]
[td]2015[/td]
[td]Difference[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Gray R[/td]
[td]82.1[/td]
[td]111.0[/td]
[td]110.4[/td]
[td]-0.6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Greene[/td]
[td]73.2[/td]
[td]102.9[/td]
[td]82.8[/td]
[td]-20.1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Jacobs[/td]
[td]85.3[/td]
[td]115.4[/td]
[td]108.0[/td]
[td]-7.4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Martin S[/td]
[td]45.0[/td]
[td]111.7[/td]
[td]110.8[/td]
[td]-0.9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Mumford[/td]
[td]91.9[/td]
[td]114.2[/td]
[td]105.7[/td]
[td]-8.5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Parker[/td]
[td]86.9[/td]
[td]108.5[/td]
[td]99.7[/td]
[td]-8.8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Rockliff[/td]
[td]109.7[/td]
[td]132.0[/td]
[td]101.9[/td]
[td]-30.1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Sandilands[/td]
[td]64.0[/td]
[td]108.0[/td]
[td]107.8[/td]
[td]-0.2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Swallow D[/td]
[td]79.6[/td]
[td]103.2[/td]
[td]85.8[/td]
[td]-17.4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Treloar[/td]
[td]87.1[/td]
[td]107.5[/td]
[td]106.8[/td]
[td]-0.7[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

10 out 10 failed to beat the curse last season, bringing the total to just 3 out of 45 players, who have managed to beat the curse.

This leads us to ask: Who are the cursed players from 2015?

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[tr]
[td]PLAYER[/td]
[td]2014[/td]
[td]2015[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Blicavs[/td]
[td]69.2[/td]
[td]104.3[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Bontempelli[/td]
[td]78.6[/td]
[td]103.2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Gawn[/td]
[td]63.2[/td]
[td]102.1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Goldstein[/td]
[td]106.9[/td]
[td]128.8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Mitchell T[/td]
[td]83.8[/td]
[td]104.5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Shaw H[/td]
[td]92.6[/td]
[td]112.6[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
Bont and Big Maxy looking likely to join that illustrious list (unless they flop now) of Gaz, Swanny and Libba with TMitch and Heater possibility's, (would each need a decent run home).
 

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Hi Rowsus,

Having had a look at both my side for the weekend, and also your latest thread Ablett Replacement Options (which I loved), it brings me to my trade conundrum for this week.

Petracca --> Markov / Silvagni / FD Greenwood is a done deal

Next issue is Gazza, options include...

1. Gazza --> Sloane (or any premo)
- Next week Collins to Boyd, makes McVeigh (or Howe) D7

2. Gazza --> Boyd
- McVeigh moves to the MIDs for this week
- The following week: Collins --> Sloane (or premo MID)
- After next week McVeigh is D7, with ability to cover MIDs, plus having Howe within my 7 'premo' DEFs to also cover FWD
- Sloane in the MIDs, with a BE of 138 this week, and Macaffer/Greenwood to potentially deal with, I could wait a week on him.
- Add Boyd to my DEF this week whilst he has a BE of 85 against the GCS.

Either way, the same outcomes can be achieved.

Here is my side as it stands atm:

Goodie's Guns

DEF: Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Laird, Howe, McVeigh (Collins, Broad)
MID: Dangerfield, Ablett, Pendlebury, Hannebery, Selwood, Neale, Priddis, Gray (Trengrove, Davis, Phillips)
RUC: Goldstein, Martin (Wyatt)
FWD: Zorko, Martin, Wells, Montagna, Barlow, Deledio (Petracca, Uebergang)

Any quick thoughts would be much appreciated, no stress though if you're busy (or sleeping) hahaha :)

Cheers Goodie
 

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Such a key question. Row, if you're open to the idea, I think it might save you a few questions overall if you come up with a bit of a pecking order, especially amongst the main candidates for "next man in" (Sloane, Neale, GWS boys, eg).

Also, if you have a view on Clay Smith, I would be interested. I don't need him, or the cash he could free up - but if he's significantly better cover than Petracca/Trengove/Mathieson/Phillips in your view, I'd be open to bringing him in. I've been a bit underwhelmed by that lot in the last couple of weeks! Thanks :)
Clay Smith seems like a bit of a speculative/luxury trade to me. Only 36 games in 5 seasons, and only 6 in the last 2.5 season. Only 6 career scores above 90 in 36 games. I know some of our other supposedly solid cover players have become shakey, or invisible, but you might be replacing one problem, with another. I'd say he's only for Coaches with: completed teams, and a handful or more of trades left, and at least one solid bit of cover already in place in their Mid and Fwd lines.
I don't think there are many Coaches matching that description. :p

Rowsus

With 8 trades left (not including one for GAJ) do you think it would be a good "investment" to get Clay Smith in for one of Hams or Trengrove? He seems like great fwd/mid cover at a very low cost. Have $42k in the bank but could be more depending who I get in for GAJ. Still have Collins, Brand and Menadue slowly moooing along so a bit of cash there for later bench upgrades/onfield improvements in finals.

Cheers
minidee,
I think we need to be careful, and not get too focussed on the 2 games he has played in his comeback, and look more at his overall picture. Huge history of missing games, and not a good scoring history. Very up and down. 100 one week, and a 40 the next.
 
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