Opinion 100+ Season Players Sorted By Age

[Rowsus]

There may be some confusion when looking at the two sets of averages in posts #19 and #20.


The first one was derived by adding all the averages in each age group, and dividing by the number of players in that age group.

The second one was derived by adding all the points scored by that age group, and dividing by the number of games played by that age group.

As a reference point, the second one in post #20 is probably the better one to use.

 

[Rowsus]

Great work Rowsus! I'm sure I will be referring this to a lot over the preseason.

I'm trying to work out which age bracket is where most players seem to have their best year, seems that's around 25-26?

Best season by Age, and Ave, Agg or PIT65

174 instead of 173 because S Thompson has 2 identical seasons.

Might be different for Fwds/Rucs/Defs.

By position.

Removing players that:
Played in 2001 and earlier
Are current players, but have 4 or less seasons under their belt.
Played 10 games or less in their only 100+ season/s.

 

[Rowsus]

Good observation, sven.

Interesting that only Ablett and Mitchell have had 10 seasons +100 and 8 seems like the upper limit for most others.

Makes Joel Selwood and Fyfe's careers look extra impressive if they keep things up.

 

[Rowsus]

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[Rowsus]

This thread is now open for comments, discussion, questions and observations.

The better and more relevant observations will be moved up to the 5 reserved posts above.

 

[Pearcey47]

Great work Rowsus! Extremely handy reference material! Thanks!

 

[Bomber18]

Great work Rowsus! I'm sure I will be referring this to a lot over the preseason.

I'm trying to work out which age bracket is where most players seem to have their best year, seems that's around 25-26? Might be different for Fwds/Rucs/Defs.


Both answered in post #22 above

 

[Rowsus]

Great work Rowsus! I'm sure I will be referring this to a lot over the preseason.

I'm trying to work out which age bracket is where most players seem to have their best year, seems that's around 25-26? Might be different for Fwds/Rucs/Defs.

Best year by average, aggregate or PIT65?

There are 174 instead of 173, because Scott Thompson (Ade) had 2 identical seasons in 2011 and 2012, that happened to be his best season.

 

[I am Cursed :(]

So 22-26 is the real sweet spot for that 110 - 119 average. My man O'Mera is a lock!

 

[sven_inc]

Interesting that only Ablett and Mitchell have had 10 seasons +100 and 8 seems like the upper limit for most others.

Makes Joel Selwood and Fyfe's careers look extra impressive if they keep things up.

 

[JT23]

Is this suggesting that it is extremely more likely a player will have their "best year" when they are 26 under any method? It is significantly higher than any of the other ages even one year either side?

I would never have guessed it would be so much more likely in one year (26 years of age) and quite consistent in the four years leading up to that and the one year following!

Best year by average, aggregate or PIT65?

There are 174 instead of 173, because Scott Thompson (Ade) had 2 identical seasons in 2011 and 2012, that happened to be his best season.

 

[Rowsus]

Is this suggesting that it is extremely more likely a player will have their "best year" when they are 26 under any method? It is significantly higher than any of the other ages even one year either side?

I would never have guessed it would be so much more likely in one year (26 years of age) and quite consistent in the four years leading up to that and the one year following!

"Extremely" would appear to be too strong a word. At it's highest it is 28 out of 174, which is only 16.1% of players, that have had a 100+ season, had their best season at 26 years old.
I think it is more reflective of role change, built up fitness etc.

 

[couchPOTATO]

Thanks for the data rowsus

I was considering that the data is probably skewed older by the players who were 24/25 plus in 2004 and therefore cannot have their peak year at say age 21/22/23, is it possible to exclude the players who debuted in 2001 or prior??

This would leave the 2001 superdraft set of players including Ablett, Swan, Hodge etc who debuted in 2002.

You could similarly remove the players who haven't reached 22 yet (say 2012-15 draftees) as these players will most likely have peaked in either 2015 or 2016 which "right-skews" the data.

I also think you should be removing the Schmidt, Rusling types either on the basis of low career games played and/or the number of games played in their single 100 average season (ie 1 and 5 respectively for Schmidt and Rusling, even Griffins 7 games in 2011 seems way too low, perhaps a 10 game/1000pt minimum would be better??) as IMO this would provide more meaningful analysis.

Answered at post #39, added into post#22.

 

[Rowsus]

Thanks for the data rowsus

I was considering that the data is probably skewed older by the players who were 24/25 plus in 2004 and therefore cannot have their peak year at say age 21/22/23, is it possible to exclude the players who debuted in 2001 or prior??

This would leave the 2001 superdraft set of players including Ablett, Swan, Hodge etc who debuted in 2002.

You could similarly remove the players who haven't reached 22 yet (say 2012-15 draftees) as these players will most likely have peaked in either 2015 or 2016 which "right-skews" the data.

I also think you should be removing the Schmidt, Rusling types either on the basis of low career games played and/or the number of games played in their single 100 average season (ie 1 and 5 respectively for Schmidt and Rusling, even Griffins 7 games in 2011 seems way too low, perhaps a 10 game/1000pt minimum would be better??) as IMO this would provide more meaningful analysis.

Interesting observation, cP.
I agree, it is worth looking at. I'll get onto it.

 

[Bomber18]

Best season by Age, and Ave, Agg or PIT65

174 instead of 173 because S Thompson has 2 identical seasons.


By position.

Mammoth effort mate! Thanks for that!

Seems like 22-26 is the sweet period for mids.
For rucks, no real pattern (although could argue 24-26). I'd thought rucks generally break out later than mids but it seems to be different for each person.
Defs/Fwds seem to have their better years after 25/26.

 

[freowho]

Mammoth effort mate! Thanks for that!

Seems like 22-26 is the sweet period for mids.
For rucks, no real pattern (although could argue 24-26). I'd thought rucks generally break out later than mids but it seems to be different for each person.
Defs/Fwds seem to have their better years after 25/26.

Some of the def/fwds will be players who used to be mids like Hodge, Mitchell, Boyd, Bartel, Simpson, McVeigh etc. So not necessarily their better years but good years in different positions.

 

[Rowsus]

Thanks for the data rowsus

I was considering that the data is probably skewed older by the players who were 24/25 plus in 2004 and therefore cannot have their peak year at say age 21/22/23, is it possible to exclude the players who debuted in 2001 or prior??

This would leave the 2001 superdraft set of players including Ablett, Swan, Hodge etc who debuted in 2002.

You could similarly remove the players who haven't reached 22 yet (say 2012-15 draftees) as these players will most likely have peaked in either 2015 or 2016 which "right-skews" the data.

I also think you should be removing the Schmidt, Rusling types either on the basis of low career games played and/or the number of games played in their single 100 average season (ie 1 and 5 respectively for Schmidt and Rusling, even Griffins 7 games in 2011 seems way too low, perhaps a 10 game/1000pt minimum would be better??) as IMO this would provide more meaningful analysis.

Removing players that:
Played in 2001 and earlier
Are current players, but have 4 or less seasons under their belt.
Played 10 games or less in their only 100+ season/s.

 

[Rowsus]

Some of the def/fwds will be players who used to be mids like Hodge, Mitchell, Boyd, Bartel, Simpson, McVeigh etc. So not necessarily their better years but good years in different positions.

Hodge is under Mids. His best season was 2005, and he was Mid only that season.
Mitchell is under Mids. His best season was 2011, and he was Mid only that season.
Boyd is under Mids. His best season was 2011, and he was Mid only that season.
Bartel is under Mids. His best season was 2007, and he was Mid only that season.
Simpson is under Defs. His best season was 2016, and he was Def only that season.
McVeigh is under Mids. His best season was 2013, and he was Mid only that season.