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Which mid pricers/JLT bolters will you be starting?

  • Tuohy

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Mills

    Votes: 3 3.2%
  • Bob Murphy

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Beams

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Marc Murphy

    Votes: 4 4.3%
  • Watson

    Votes: 6 6.4%
  • O'Meara

    Votes: 44 46.8%
  • Swallow

    Votes: 29 30.9%
  • Sandilands

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Witts

    Votes: 34 36.2%
  • Ryder

    Votes: 10 10.6%
  • Roughead

    Votes: 41 43.6%
  • Higgins

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Wingard

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • Billings

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nankervis

    Votes: 54 57.4%
  • Steele

    Votes: 28 29.8%
  • Petracca

    Votes: 2 2.1%

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Part of the reason my current set up is:
Def: 6-0-2
Mid: 4-0-7
Ruck: 1-1-1
Fwd: 2-0-6
Interesting Row, may I ask, the 6-0-2 DEF, what price is your D6 in the vicinity of ??? :confused:

Are you confident in nailing all 6 of those picks? And is there any DEFs not within the premium 6 that 'scare' you so to speak, given you will most likely not have them in your side if they happen to outperform one or multiple of your starting 6??

Obviously I know it's the very early stages of the preseason, but just interested to know your reasoning. :)
 

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Interesting Row, may I ask, the 6-0-2 DEF, what price is your D6 in the vicinity of ??? :confused:

Are you confident in nailing all 6 of those picks? And is there any DEFs not within the premium 6 that 'scare' you so to speak, given you will most likely not have them in your side if they happen to outperform one or multiple of your starting 6??

Obviously I know it's the very early stages of the preseason, but just interested to know your reasoning. :)
Absolutely zero confidence I've nailed them.
All in the $460-$540k area, so no Doch, Simmo, Shaw or Boyd.
I will probably end up 5-0-3 in Def, but at the moment, I really want to pack in as many Mid and Fwd Rookies as I can. I think it might be a good year to max the Rookies in those two areas.
 
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Gday guys, Version 1.0 of 100.0:

DEF: Docherty, Montagna, McDonald, Lloyd, McGarth, Scharenberg, Berry, Ryan
MID: Dangerfield, Kennedy, Treloar, Priddis, Bontempelli, Beams, Petrevski-Seton, Powell-Pepper, Brodie, Myers, Barrett
RUCK: Goldstein, Sandilands, Strnadica
FWD: Dahlhaus, Heeney, McCluggage, Knight, Anisworth, Bowes, Brown, Bolton
 

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Gday guys, Version 1.0 of 100.0:

DEF: Docherty, Montagna, McDonald, Lloyd, McGarth, Scharenberg, Berry, Ryan
MID: Dangerfield, Kennedy, Treloar, Priddis, Bontempelli, Beams, Petrevski-Seton, Powell-Pepper, Brodie, Myers, Barrett
RUCK: Goldstein, Sandilands, Strnadica
FWD: Dahlhaus, Heeney, McCluggage, Knight, Anisworth, Bowes, Brown, Bolton
Nice unique-ish looking squad that. No Adams/Laird/JJ is interesting (i don't mind that) and looks like you've got the right mix of rookies in the midfield although i'd want Myers on field so perhaps you have room to wiggle there. SPS and SPP do look like worthy starters though i admit.

I think if you're gonna run a 206 forward line, the rookies you pick will need to be certain starters. I like the Knight pick, one on my radar preseason pending. In my 206 draft, i've got McCarthy and White who i think have better JS and scoring potential than Ainsworth and Bowes. I know at this stage, rookies are just place setters but it's much easier to go down rookie wise, than it is to go up.
 
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I can't imagine feeling comfortable relying on 4 rookies in a single line.
 

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I can't imagine feeling comfortable relying on 4 rookies in a single line.
Come on jaca....... getting out of your comfort zone, and flying with your @rse to the breeze is what it's all about!
 
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Potentially, you could have a forward line of Dahlhaus, Heeney/Lynch, McCarthy, McCluggage, Eddy and then all you need to do is find 3 more forward rookies.

I can see myself running this actually.
 

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I can't imagine feeling comfortable relying on 4 rookies in a single line.
Pff, 4's nothing. Try 8!


As mentioned in my previous article, my '2009 SuperCoach team' finished 188th overall, which I was very pleased with. I could not believe in my wildest dreams that I would ever crack the top 1,000, let alone the top 200. When you enter a competition with 400,000 entries, statistically you have a 1 in 400,000 chance of winning. Therefore, a top 1,000 ranking was and is, in my opinion, a very good result.

With a solid ranking behind me, I approached SuperCoach 2010 with a lot of confidence and decided to try something different. As far as I was aware, my proposed strategy had never been tried before. I decide to have an 8 rookie midifeld in my starting line up, not 7 rookies and 1 premium, not 6 rookies and 2 premiums, but 8 rookies and no premiums in the midfield. That meant that the usual SuperCoach elites of Ablett, Swan, Pendlebury, Judd and Dal Santo were not in my initial team.

My initial SuperCoach team in 2010 was:



I have colour coded the above table to differentiate between the premiums and non-premiums. The general idea was to stack my midfield with rookies as I believed they were the best crop of the rookies in 2010 and that in theory, they had a better chance of scoring higher than other rookies. Naturally, I was hoping to catch a fallen premium at some stage. With my strategy there was a high risk that the premium midfields that I had to forgo would punish me and score more than their theoretical replacement, ie back or forward premiums, but I believed it was worth the risk.

In relation to rookies, I don’t normally select high draft, ie high priced rookies as the extra money paid for these rookies could be used elsewhere and it’s harder to generate money from a higher starting price. However, you will note that I picked Martin and Trengove who were the higher priced rookies. The reason was that due to my high risk strategy of an 8 rookie midfield, I needed to pay a small surcharge for some insurance in the form of Martin and Trengove to alleviate some of the risk.

Rule 4: Don’t select high draft/priced rookies, unless there is a good reason

Rule 5: Pay extra for insurance (eg. Trengove/Martin) to reduce risk (eg. 8 rookie midfield)

Unfortunately, I don’t have a week to week summary of 2010, but I know I was ranked 1,144 after round 6 and finished with an overall rank of 724. However, I vaguely recall that I was in striking distance and was in the top 2,000 all year. I won’t go into detail, but deep inside I know that my SuperCoach team in 2010 was better than my SuperCoach team in 2011, when I won the whole thing. The reason was that the SuperCoach Gods were looking after my SuperCoach team in 2011, but gave me the cold shoulder in 2010.

However, I think one of the most underrated thing about my all 8 rookie midfield in SuperCoach 2010 was my confidence to do it!!

Don’t forget being part of a number of AFL chat forums, I normally discuss the basic framework of a SuperCoach team with a number of people. Many people will have a similar skeleton team, for example only, Goddard, Deledio, Swan, Pendles, Cox and Franklin as a starting point and then deviate or individualise their team from there. Here, I had the confidence to ‘challenge the standard framework’, the confidence to be ‘different’ and more importantly the confidence to ‘break the rules’.

In my next few articles, you will understand why my SuperCoach team in 2010 played a major part in my SuperCoach win in 2011.

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Looks pretty good lavenderbandit. My ruck line is identical, and we have four premium mids the same. A couple of thoughts:

- Mids look good, but might be a fraction heavy given the rookies are usually best there.

- Macrae looks popular, and a fairly safe pick as a top forward. Is there a reason you've opted against? If not, rebalancing your forwards and mids by bringing him in could be an option.

- I agree re the defenders. One thing worth noting is that both JJ and Adams have low game counts, so if you think a lot of players will score around the same (and the same as what they're proced at), potentially picking the most durable ones could be the way to go. I too have injury risks in Rocky, Fyfe, Beams, Sandi and Lids, so personally I've gone for some very durable options elsewhere. Down back that's Howe, Rance and Montagna, and in the mids I have JPK as well as Pendles.

Hope this helps!
Dahlhaus, MacRae and Heeney are all round 11 bye! Dahl is a lock for me but I don't want to take all 3 so one of the other 2 has to go. I'm wondering if Macrae is having to share his job more with Beveridge coming from the Hawthorn school of sharing where as Heeney looks like he will get a bigger piece of the Sydney pie?

Edit: I do enjoy reading your team reviews Darkie.
It's a strong point Freo, that might be it.

I have yet to fully figure out the implications of the round 9 bye, and I generally try to pick my first choice side ex byes and then rebalance as needed, rather than have a more balanced (but maybe slightly more compromised?) team in the picker, if that makes sense. Inevitably someone will be injured or an unexpected rookie pops up, so I'd rather know who my first choice premiums are so I can adjust accordingly.

With that said, I currently have something like 1, 6, 2, 6 as my bye structure, so clearly it needs some work.

On Heeney, he's obviously cheaper in dollar terms and probably more underpriced than Macrae, but how confident are you he will hit keeper level? To me he looks to have a lot of the right attributes long-term, but the Mod Squad's views were a little less bullish on his ceiling than I might have expected, and I'm now less convinced than I was. He does look ripped, but if fitness was an issue last year (it was) playing forward-mid, and he's now notably heavier and hopefully playing mid-forward, could it be a limiting factor again this year? He didn't have much TOG upside last year, so it's really more upside in midfield minutes that is required. The opportunity is there, but I'm not certain he yet has the tank to take full advantage of that.

The flip side is that he averaged 80 with 17 touches a game, or 4.8 points per disposal. You'd think that could easily go to more than 20 touches playing midfield, which gets him close to 100. His points per disposal could decline a bit with fewer goals and maybe marks, but Heeney only averaged 1.2 goals per game (vs Parker at 1.0), so maybe the headwind from fewer marks can be overcome without too much difficulty.
Thanks for the replys gents, only just saw them!

I usually dont like to start my team with 2 players from the same team in the same line unless there is good reason, hence Lids over Macrea. I think i will end up ditching Rockliff for this reason, as i have obviously broken this rule with 2 Lions in my current mids and both coming off injuries/related concerns. Byes not even taken into account yet.

And on reflection, I have 6/7 injury "risks". Fyfe, Rockliff, Beams, Sandi, lids, even JJ with his hammies. perhaps even Laird. Thats half my premiums!!! But risk=reward so will perhaps wittle this down to 2-3 risks. perhaps. Need to put more effort into my structure and tactics.

Another rule is if i am going for a breakout dont do it in the mids. Had some luck with Hall early last year but also started KK (dont ask) as my other breakout for 2016 who didnt end up playing round 1 AND stunk it. Heeney is the chosen one at present for all the reason outlined by the Mod Squad.

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3rd draft fellas. Playing with an idea. Let me know what you think. I've picked mostly expensive rookies because it's a lot easier to go down than up. Bye structure sucks, 2/8/5/14, but eh. 18.7k left.

Shaw, Rance, Laird, Adams, McGrath, Berry (Uebergang, Hewett)
Danger, Treloar, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Freeman, Pickett (Bolton, Poholke, Fordham)
Goldstein, Grundy (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Heeney, McCluggage, McCarthy, Knight, Eddy (Chol, Begley).

My only concern is that I won't have enough trades to get a full team of premiums, as I have 12 rolled gold premiums, then Heeney and Beams. Rip into it fellas.
 

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3rd draft fellas. Playing with an idea. Let me know what you think. I've picked mostly expensive rookies because it's a lot easier to go down than up. Bye structure sucks, 2/8/5/14, but eh. 18.7k left.

Shaw, Rance, Laird, Adams, McGrath, Berry (Uebergang, Hewett)
Danger, Treloar, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Freeman, Pickett (Bolton, Poholke, Fordham)
Goldstein, Grundy (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Heeney, McCluggage, McCarthy, Knight, Eddy (Chol, Begley).

My only concern is that I won't have enough trades to get a full team of premiums, as I have 12 rolled gold premiums, then Heeney and Beams. Rip into it fellas.
Very similar team to my current draft mate so naturally I like it. Defence premiums are exact same as mine, all solid consistent picks with strong history, all should be up there amongst the top 10 defenders.

Midfield has 1 too many risks for my liking, cant see all 3 of Sloane Bont and Treloar being a top 10 mid. Prefer a Pendles/Jpk/Hannebery type to one of them.

Rucks look good but whats your plan if Gawn fires early?

Think this is the season to go light in the forward line, Dahlhaus a lock for F1 and I'm tossing up between Heeney and Bennell for F2 myself.

Overall I like this team :)
 
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Very similar team to my current draft mate so naturally I like it. Defence premiums are exact same as mine, all solid consistent picks with strong history, all should be up there amongst the top 10 defenders.

Midfield has 1 too many risks for my liking, cant see all 3 of Sloane Bont and Treloar being a top 10 mid. Prefer a Pendles/Jpk/Hannebery type to one of them.

Rucks look good but whats your plan if Gawn fires early?

Think this is the season to go light in the forward line, Dahlhaus a lock for F1 and I'm tossing up between Heeney and Bennell for F2 myself.

Overall I like this team :)
If Gawn fires, I start planning for 2018. I can't see him firing to an extent where the cash I save from picking Grundy will be outweighed by the points he scores over Grundy. I see Grundy being the Gawn of 2017. Grundy averaged 107 in his last 10 games of 2016. If Grundy can bump the couple of 50/60 games he had up to 80, I'm laughing. Will also monster a few teams next year, which will lead to those 130-140 scores. I've had Grundy locked since before the season finished tbh.

Very good point about Sloane/Bont/Treloar. Out of the 3, I reckon I'm least bullish about Sloane, as I reckon he'll be a trade-in target. Maybe this is the year I pick JPK. I just worry about what his possible role could be with Mitchell having left.
 
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Interesting a few having a shot at a 2 premium forward line. Find a couple of McCluggages to fill up the forward line that might post an average of 80 for a while would be nice for it to work itself out. Bit in the dark about Knight, seeing him here and there.
 
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Interesting a few having a shot at a 2 premium forward line. Find a couple of McCluggages to fill up the forward line that might post an average of 80 for a while would be nice for it to work itself out. Bit in the dark about Knight, seeing him here and there.
Could fill a void in Adelaide's midfield.

I think it's a great structure for a couple of reasons. 1) allows me to bat deeper in other areas I am more confident in, and 2) allows the good forward premiums to reveal themselves. It only works in my mind if I pay a premium on F3-F6 rookies though, as I need that job security.
 

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3rd draft fellas. Playing with an idea. Let me know what you think. I've picked mostly expensive rookies because it's a lot easier to go down than up. Bye structure sucks, 2/8/5/14, but eh. 18.7k left.

Shaw, Rance, Laird, Adams, McGrath, Berry (Uebergang, Hewett)
Danger, Treloar, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Freeman, Pickett (Bolton, Poholke, Fordham)
Goldstein, Grundy (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Heeney, McCluggage, McCarthy, Knight, Eddy (Chol, Begley).

My only concern is that I won't have enough trades to get a full team of premiums, as I have 12 rolled gold premiums, then Heeney and Beams. Rip into it fellas.
Pretty balanced side!
Interesting that you are following suit with the 206 forward line. I went with it last year and it didn't work for me. Too early to tell now as the rookies dictate the structure.

My only concern is that you might have a big exposure to that R13 bye in the mids with Treloar, Sloane, Fyfe and Grundy in the rucks which could make it hard for you to bring in Pendles.
 
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Interesting a few having a shot at a 2 premium forward line. Find a couple of McCluggages to fill up the forward line that might post an average of 80 for a while would be nice for it to work itself out. Bit in the dark about Knight, seeing him here and there.
I dunno, Dahlhaus is the obvious F1 but i'm also liking all of Greene, Heeney, TJ Lynch and Touk Touk and they're all in there at the moment. Much prefering a 2-0-6 defence right now and if enough likely rookies get up i might run with it.
 

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Second draft of many! Turned Roughy/Scharenberg/Swallow/Pendles into McCarthy/Rance/Fordham/Treloar (so more GnR)

Doch, Shaw, Rance, Adams, McGrath, Berry (Newman, Ryan)
Danger, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Foote, SPP, Myers (Barrett, Fordham, Freeman)
Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Bennell, McCarthy, Pickett (Balic, Eddy)
 
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Pretty balanced side!
Interesting that you are following suit with the 206 forward line. I went with it last year and it didn't work for me. Too early to tell now as the rookies dictate the structure.

My only concern is that you might have a big exposure to that R13 bye in the mids with Treloar, Sloane, Fyfe and Grundy in the rucks which could make it hard for you to bring in Pendles.
Yep, I think I need to chop Sloane. My bye structure is pretty messed up, and I'll grab him after that Round 12 bye. Think I gotta go with the ultra-consistent JPK instead.

I wanna try something different this year, and implement the lessons from the mistakes I made last year. I think a 2-0-6 structure makes sense to me because the forwards are usually inconsistent. We got a few gifts with Zorko, Merrett and Martin last year. This year, a lot of forwards will go 110-70-80-110, and allow me to fill my forward line up relatively cheaply, whilst pumping out points in other areas. I only have 4 non forward upgrades to make, so I think it's worth the risk.

Second draft of many! Turned Roughy/Scharenberg/Swallow/Pendles into McCarthy/Rance/Fordham/Treloar (so more GnR)

Doch, Shaw, Rance, Adams, McGrath, Berry (Newman, Ryan)
Danger, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Foote, SPP, Myers (Barrett, Fordham, Freeman)
Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Bennell, McCarthy, Pickett (Balic, Eddy)
The thing about this team is that it will either boom or bust. I can't see this team having a middling season. I count 3-4 risks that if they turn up, you're laughing. Bennell will be a season-defining pick that somewhat goes under the radar, but unfortunately I feel the risks of him outweigh the reward.

Sandi is a great pick, but I just can't bring myself to do it. Well balanced all round.
 

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I dunno, Dahlhaus is the obvious F1 but i'm also liking all of Greene, Heeney, TJ Lynch and Touk Touk and they're all in there at the moment. Much prefering a 2-0-6 defence right now and if enough likely rookies get up i might run with it.
I just can't see enough rookies in the backline to allow for a 2-0-6. In the forward line i can see heaps, to the point there's too many options and i think i'm gonna struggle to choose one over another.
 
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I just can't see enough rookies in the backline to allow for a 2-0-6. In the forward line i can see heaps, to the point there's too many options and i think i'm gonna struggle to choose one over another.
Great point and i can see one of those falling off the wagon (to be replaced by a defender) by the start of the season. It feels like Touk Miller right now.
 
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