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Which mid pricers/JLT bolters will you be starting?

  • Tuohy

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Mills

    Votes: 3 3.2%
  • Bob Murphy

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Beams

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Marc Murphy

    Votes: 4 4.3%
  • Watson

    Votes: 6 6.4%
  • O'Meara

    Votes: 44 46.8%
  • Swallow

    Votes: 29 30.9%
  • Sandilands

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Witts

    Votes: 34 36.2%
  • Ryder

    Votes: 10 10.6%
  • Roughead

    Votes: 41 43.6%
  • Higgins

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Wingard

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • Billings

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nankervis

    Votes: 54 57.4%
  • Steele

    Votes: 28 29.8%
  • Petracca

    Votes: 2 2.1%

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Great point and i can see one of those falling off the wagon by the start of the season. It feels like Touk Miller right now.
Oh i was referring to rookies.

Regarding premiums, i can't find more than 1 i love (Dahl). The rest i can't get comfortable with...which is not a bad thing of course.
 
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TEAM NAME: Presto V1.05
DEF: A. Rance, R. Laird, T. Adams, J. Johannisen, J. Howe, J. Berry (B. Long, L. Ryan)
MID: P. Dangerfield, A. Treloar, M. Bontempelli, N. Fyfe, D. Myers, W. Brodie, S. Petrevski-Seton, S. Powell-Pepper (D. Clarke, D. Gore, J. Graham)
RUC: M. Gawn, T. Goldstein (L. Strdanica)
FWD: L. Dahlhaus, J. Macrae, I. Heeney, A. Black, J. Bowes, J. Pickett (B. Eddy, K. LeBois)
Money left:$87,200
 

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Yep, I think I need to chop Sloane. My bye structure is pretty messed up, and I'll grab him after that Round 12 bye. Think I gotta go with the ultra-consistent JPK instead.

I wanna try something different this year, and implement the lessons from the mistakes I made last year. I think a 2-0-6 structure makes sense to me because the forwards are usually inconsistent. We got a few gifts with Zorko, Merrett and Martin last year. This year, a lot of forwards will go 110-70-80-110, and allow me to fill my forward line up relatively cheaply, whilst pumping out points in other areas. I only have 4 non forward upgrades to make, so I think it's worth the risk.
I think usually KPFs are the forwards that are inconsistent rather than the midfielders disguised as forwards who generally are a lot more consistent. I've always liked to start M/Fs and then try snag a KPF at a lower price point.

The thing about this team is that it will either boom or bust. I can't see this team having a middling season. I count 3-4 risks that if they turn up, you're laughing. Bennell will be a season-defining pick that somewhat goes under the radar, but unfortunately I feel the risks of him outweigh the reward.

Sandi is a great pick, but I just can't bring myself to do it. Well balanced all round.
I do agree with your sentiments a bit of boom or bust about some of the picks. Were your 3-4 risks Bennell, Heeney, Sandi and Beams?

Bennell is definitely the one that's quite rightly being scrutinized due to the uncertainty with the calves. Wells eventually got them right for the first half of last season so hoping he can too! I think we were a bit lucky last year as Wells was priced so low it was a no brainer. But how many people would've taken him if he were 380k? He would've been still worth it at 380k due to his scoring potential!
 
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Team 2nd draft

Defence: Shaw ~ Rance ~ Adams ~ Laird ~ Mcgrath ~ Scharenberg (Ryan, Uebergang)

Midfield: Selwood ~ Fyfe ~ Treloar ~ Rockliff ~ Mitchell ~ Beams ~ Myers ~ Gore (Freeman, Clarke, Scheer)

Ruck: Goldstein ~ Sandilands (Stranadica)

Forward: Dahlhaus ~ Macrae ~ Lynch ~ Broomhead ~ Black ~ Pickett (Drew, Bolton)

$100 left.

1. Not convinced by Goldstein but he is here as I'm able to fit in my ideal structure with him rather than Gawn
2. Personally I think a fit Broomhead is in Collingwood's best 18 and can average 70-80 but Buckley can be quite irrational at times...
3. Think Mcgrath is more of a lock than Weitering. can see 75-85 average from him
4. I've packed in 4 top 8 midfielders, plus Mitchell and Beams who i think will be (top 10-12 mids)
5. 14 premiums+Sandilands is a healthy number.


Thoughts?
 
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Team 2nd draft

Defence: Shaw ~ Rance ~ Adams ~ Laird ~ Mcgrath ~ Scharenberg (Ryan, Uebergang)

Midfield: Selwood ~ Fyfe ~ Treloar ~ Rockliff ~ Mitchell ~ Beams ~ Myers ~ Gore (Freeman, Clarke, Scheer)

Ruck: Goldstein ~ Sandilands (Stranadica)

Forward: Dahlhaus ~ Macrae ~ Lynch ~ Broomhead ~ Black ~ Pickett (Drew, Bolton)

$100 left.

1. Not convinced by Goldstein but he is here as I'm able to fit in my ideal structure with him rather than Gawn
2. Personally I think a fit Broomhead is in Collingwood's best 18 and can average 70-80 but Buckley can be quite irrational at times...
3. Think Mcgrath is more of a lock than Weitering. can see 75-85 average from him
4. I've packed in 4 top 8 midfielders, plus Mitchell and Beams who i think will be (top 10-12 mids)
5. 14 premiums+Sandilands is a healthy number.


Thoughts?
With Petrie getting delisted, the obvious selection if Daw who will steal time in the ruck from Goldy. But to what extent? I don't know. McGrath looks the good. No Hibberd = attacking half back vacancy.

The obvious thing I note is the lack of expensive rookies. I feel you need spare change to have two Bowes/Brodie/Foote/Ainsworth/McGluggage/SPS. Nothing to fault about your premo selections.
 
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TEAM NAME: Presto V1.05
DEF: A. Rance, R. Laird, T. Adams, J. Johannisen, J. Howe, J. Berry (B. Long, L. Ryan)
MID: P. Dangerfield, A. Treloar, M. Bontempelli, N. Fyfe, D. Myers, W. Brodie, S. Petrevski-Seton, S. Powell-Pepper (D. Clarke, D. Gore, J. Graham)
RUC: M. Gawn, T. Goldstein (L. Strdanica)
FWD: L. Dahlhaus, J. Macrae, I. Heeney, A. Black, J. Bowes, J. Pickett (B. Eddy, K. LeBois)
Money left:$87,200
 
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With Petrie getting delisted, the obvious selection if Daw who will steal time in the ruck from Goldy. But to what extent? I don't know. McGrath looks the good. No Hibberd = attacking half back vacancy.

The obvious thing I note is the lack of expensive rookies. I feel you need spare change to have two Bowes/Brodie/Foote/Ainsworth/McGluggage/SPS. Nothing to fault about your premo selections.
Hey I absolutely agree with the downside of Goldy. If I can utilise the extra cash from getting Grundy instead or I can find the spare cash to get Gawn then I would. Out of your list of expensive rookies. I think Brodie, Ainsworth and to a lesser extent SPS are unviable options at this stage. However if Broomhead isn't best 22 by round 1 perhaps I can go for Bowes. Anyways thanks for the feedback.
 

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This is awkward but @FantasyFreako stated that SuperCoach prices don't include Finals Series stats.

I just tweeted this (and expecting egg on my face):

Hey mate, <s>#</s>SuperCoach Picker doesn't include Finals for prices. Check top 4 (Danger, Pendles, GAJ, JPK) shows magic number 5440.4 for prices
 
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With Petrie getting delisted, the obvious selection if Daw who will steal time in the ruck from Goldy. But to what extent? I don't know. McGrath looks the good. No Hibberd = attacking half back vacancy.

The obvious thing I note is the lack of expensive rookies. I feel you need spare change to have two Bowes/Brodie/Foote/Ainsworth/McGluggage/SPS. Nothing to fault about your premo selections.
Hey I absolutely agree with the downside of Goldy. If I can utilise the extra cash from getting Grundy instead or I can find the spare cash to get Gawn then I would. Out of your list of expensive rookies. I think Brodie, Ainsworth and to a lesser extent SPS are unviable options at this stage. However if Broomhead isn't best 22 by round 1 perhaps I can go for Bowes. Anyways thanks for the feedback.
If it helps, Goldy builds big scores with the work he does around the ground. I can't see Daw taking too much time away from Goldy in the ruck only because Goldy thrives on larger workloads. Daw will really only pinch-hit when required and may take a few ruck contests up forward.

In saying that, I'm personally a bit bullish when it comes to Daw's ruck work - I think he has so much potential in that area that I see him more as a ruck-forward than a forward-ruck. However I did see numerous signs last year that he's finally starting to work into the team structure as well as how to use his body and his strengths. I'm really looking forward to seeing him get a crack at a full year in the forward line rather than coming in our and out in dribs and drabs.

So to get back to my point - Goldy's "downside" is minimal at best. I personally wouldn't be surprised to see him take the No.1 ruck status back off Gawn next year, but we'll have to wait and see :)

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Your record indicates you don't need much help Snowman, but I think I recall you offering me good advice last year on the risks of running with a cheap R2, so I'll see what I can offer below:

- Laird is a great player, but unless he continues with some natural progression, he has hit around 97-8 for the last two years on my count, adjusting for low TOG games and so on. Priced at 97, it feels like there's not a lot of "fat" on offer to help ensure he's a top defender. I wonder whether he's a few points below that this year. I was also a little surprised at how his injury was handled last year - generally I'd prefer to know how long a player is out with some certainty, rather than have to guess and just have it dragged out. Could be a one-off or it could be ongoing - I think it's sometimes down to the player and often more down to the club, albeit it's the same club this year, so the risk may be ongoing. In any case, Laird is unlikely to derail you, but I'm not sure he'd be my first choice.

- Adams and Hartlett both seem to miss a lot of games - just something to be wary of.

- I see you are a Saints fan, which now makes a couple of you that have not gone for Montagna - is there any reason for that? To me he looks a somewhat safer bet than many others. I may be missing something on him?

- I like your mids, although I do think Gaz is a risk. I was prepared to take the injury risk given his record, ceiling and pricing, but I have recently chosen other options given Gaz's trade request and the fact that he's stepped down from the captaincy. To me his risk has gone up again, potentially significantly, so I'm not sure there's enough of a risk premium there to compensate. Personally, I've gone for Rocky, who might have similar attributes but potentially be a bit safer as an overall pick.

- I have the same ruck line. I personally think Sandi deserves the bold font (especially vs Ryder, Heeney et al), but that is semantics. I think Goldy and Sandi is the best risk-reward on offer by a distance.

- Out of interest, is Ryder being picked largely to cover for the cheap R2 issue? If so, I'm wondering whether R-F cover is less required this year, because Giles is probably a viable trade-in option if Sandi does get injured. [I currently have Ryder as a lineball keeper in my forward line notwithstanding the cover he provides, and he has the advantage of being a R9 bye player.]

Overall, I think this looks like a good side. If you needed to free up cash, I'd say the mids look heavy-ish, with Gaz or Bont the ones I'd consider trimming from that line, although I'd probably trim Adams or Hartlett as first choices from your overall side, given my comments above.

Interested in your thoughts on Montagna and the R2 situation.

Good luck.
Hey Darkie, thanks for such a quality analysis of my posted team, alot of fair points you've made. Your question regards not starting Montagna?
Well put simply, it's not that I think he will be a terrible pick that would potentially derail ones season. It's really nothing more than circumstances that have me overlooking Montagna at this early stages.
Firstly his rnd 11 bye isn't ideal for me at the moment, and while I know some people say this shouldn't have any bearing on who you choose for your starting squad, I'm not one of them!
Secondly while Joey is certainly still playing good football, he ain't getting any younger. His role last year appeared to be one floating mainly across half back and being used as a designated kicker coming out of the back half (SC Gold). Now while he still remains one of our better ball uses/decision makers it must be said that the Saints are slowly building some decent depth across their squad and I can potentially see a few others capable of playing a similar role gong forward. So I guess I'm also a little unsure what his role may be next year, and whether he may be used in various roles throughout the season.
 

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Hey Darkie, thanks for such a quality analysis of my posted team, alot of fair points you've made. Your question regards not starting Montagna?
Well put simply, it's not that I think he will be a terrible pick that would potentially derail ones season. It's really nothing more than circumstances that have me overlooking Montagna at this early stages.
Firstly his rnd 11 bye isn't ideal for me at the moment, and while I know some people say this shouldn't have any bearing on who you choose for your starting squad, I'm not one of them!
Secondly while Joey is certainly still playing good football, he ain't getting any younger. His role last year appeared to be one floating mainly across half back and being used as a designated kicker coming out of the back half (SC Gold). Now while he still remains one of our better ball uses/decision makers it must be said that the Saints are slowly building some decent depth across their squad and I can potentially see a few others capable of playing a similar role gong forward. So I guess I'm also a little unsure what his role may be next year, and whether he may be used in various roles throughout the season.
Thanks Snowman, that's somehat comforting on Montagna - perhaps I should keep an eye on his NAB/preseason role, and comments from the coach, for any signs of change (not perfect, but the best available indication).

What were your thoughts on the R-F cover issue? It seems that Giles, Boyd etc might mean that the cheap R2 is less risky this year, and/or that Ryder needs to justify his selection a little more on his own merits? [He still provides cover, but isn't needed so much as an "escape plan"?]
 
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Have had this side for a few days, so I'll post for a review:

D: Shaw, Adams, Laird, JJ + 630k for 4 rookies
M: Danger, Fyfe, Bont, Mitchell, Beams + 890k for 6 rookies
R: Gawn, Sandi + Donut
F: Dahl, Lids, Macrae + 830 for 5 rookies
 
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Interested in the 2 mid-pricers in the rucks if you'd explain?
Sandi and Giles.
Both should make some money and Giles will provide some much needed cover if Sandi goes down. I'm predicting Sandi to average 95 and Giles 70-80, will look at upgrading one and downgrading the other during the byes.
 
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Have had this side for a few days, so I'll post for a review:

D: Shaw, Adams, Laird, JJ + 630k for 4 rookies
M: Danger, Fyfe, Bont, Mitchell, Beams + 890k for 6 rookies
R: Gawn, Sandi + Donut
F: Dahl, Lids, Macrae + 830 for 5 rookies
That's the same as my team at the moment, except I've got Rockliff or Treloar instead of Mitchell and Goldy instead of Gawn. So I think it's pretty damn good.

I'm trying to work out a way to quantify the risk of Lids. It's probably him or Heeney for me. Or Roughhead if he comes up well. Probably just comes down to how solid they all look preseason.

Sandi is more appealing to me now that Clarke is injured, and I think he might be too good to ignore.

I'm considering dropping Adams as his game count's not great and there's a lot of injury-prone players in there (Fyfe, Beams, Sandi, Lids and Rockliff for me) and Adams is the one with the least upside. It's not like you've missed out on a super-bargain if he starts well and you bring him in early. That said, he's still in my team at this stage.
 
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I've had Rance in at various stages over Adams, and I think his bye may end up swaying me. Was put off by a few of the analyses over the last few days.
 
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Team has hardly changed since it opened.

Def- Shaw, Rance, Laird
Mid- Danger, Pendles, JPK, Fyfe, J.Selwood, T.Mtchell
Ruck- Gawn, Goldy
Fwd- Dahl, Macrae

Leaves me $140k avg to fill the 17 rookie slots.

Expecting big things from T.Mitch, avoiding Beams/Sandi the money saved doesn't get me anything I really want & not a fan of the fwd premos.
 
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Team has hardly changed since it opened.

Def- Shaw, Rance, Laird
Mid- Danger, Pendles, JPK, Fyfe, J.Selwood, T.Mtchell
Ruck- Gawn, Goldy
Fwd- Dahl, Macrae

Leaves me $140k avg to fill the 17 rookie slots.

Expecting big things from T.Mitch, avoiding Beams/Sandi the money saved doesn't get me anything I really want & not a fan of the fwd premos.
Not to dissimilar to mine except I am going Thurlow for Rance/Laird and plan on spending a bit more on my rookies/keeping a bank for early upgrades.
 
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