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Hey Rowsus, reading ur VC/C strategy with Dusty, Sloane and Mitchell I'm intrigued what ur thoughts are on the round 14 bye situation. If you currently have Fyfe as well and plan to get in Danger relatively early (pre byes) then are you at all stressed about having potentially 4 of ur top line mids out come round 14? I'm running with a similar set up as well currently (M. Crouch instead of Sloane) and I'm curious to get ur read on the situation! Though i guess with it being the last bye it does enable us to be fully locked and loaded with upgrades from the 2 previous bye rounds.
Thanks in advance!
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Hey Row,
Taking into consideration the extra money you make from basement price rookies and the extra money you have to spend on your starting squad - how many of the higher priced rookies (175k-220k) is too many to start with? Which ones look to be the standouts in your opinion?
Also, is someone like Bonner worth considering as a cash cow, or is his price of 257k too awkward. (Similar to Marchbank last year)
Cheers
Taking into consideration the extra money you make from basement price rookies and the extra money you have to spend on your starting squad - how many of the higher priced rookies (175k-220k) is too many to start with? Which ones look to be the standouts in your opinion?
Also, is someone like Bonner worth considering as a cash cow, or is his price of 257k too awkward. (Similar to Marchbank last year)
Cheers
G'day Abad,
it's not a simple equation ,unfortunately. You have to factor in who you chose, if you didn't take Ablett. How you used any loose change, where applicable. And how often he was Captain, and how the alternative choice performed.
Let's try and boil it down anyway.
Let's assume the player you might have taken instead of Ablett + the loose change you had in getting this player over Ablett average 125/game. Let's assume you used Ablett's score as Captain 4 times in those 8 rounds, and you might have had a Captain score of 120, if you didn't have Ablett.
You are now 8 x (135 - 125) + 4 x 15 = 140 points better off, but now you have to trade Ablett out.
If I was going to start Ablett, which I won't, I'd want at least a 200 point jump for doing it, knowing I have a locked in trade coming up.
Under the scenario you have painted, I'd say don't do it!
it's not a simple equation ,unfortunately. You have to factor in who you chose, if you didn't take Ablett. How you used any loose change, where applicable. And how often he was Captain, and how the alternative choice performed.
Let's try and boil it down anyway.
Let's assume the player you might have taken instead of Ablett + the loose change you had in getting this player over Ablett average 125/game. Let's assume you used Ablett's score as Captain 4 times in those 8 rounds, and you might have had a Captain score of 120, if you didn't have Ablett.
You are now 8 x (135 - 125) + 4 x 15 = 140 points better off, but now you have to trade Ablett out.
If I was going to start Ablett, which I won't, I'd want at least a 200 point jump for doing it, knowing I have a locked in trade coming up.
Under the scenario you have painted, I'd say don't do it!
G'day Slam,
here's a general rule of thumb for pricing Stepping Stones. I will say up front, this a general Stepping Stone, and not one being used to specifically target a high priced player like Dangerfield.
Take the score you'd accept as a "bottom-line" for each position. For example D6 might be 90/game, M8 might be 103/game and F6 might be 92/game.
Convert them to dollars, using $5,000/point. So: D6 = $450,000, M8 = $515,000, F6 = $460,000.
I'd be looking at a buffer of around $150,000 or more, otherwise to get your $100,000 growth, the player is getting into that dangerous trap selection zone, where you might never upgrade them. So if you're looking for a Def Stepping Stone, I'd preferably be looking at $300,000 or cheaper. A Mid Stepping Stone $365,000 or cheaper. A forward Stepping Stone $310,000 or cheaper.
These figures will vary for each person, depending on what they'll settle for from their D6/M8/F6, and what dollar improvement would be their "I'm happy with that" level.
I'm with you. If I start a Stepping Stone, I want at least $100k growth, but you'd probably wear $80k.
I thought Bonner looked ok in JLT2, and with Port's injuries he has the chance to be a decent Stepping Stone. The one proviso I'd make is, I'd only take him, if you can reach him with spare change. I wouldn't be rearranging your team, and other selections to get him in.
CEY is one i'd love to take, as I think he'll be ok, but he doesn't fit my structure. JOM, good luck to those that start him, but I think he has too many convictions/question marks.
here's a general rule of thumb for pricing Stepping Stones. I will say up front, this a general Stepping Stone, and not one being used to specifically target a high priced player like Dangerfield.
Take the score you'd accept as a "bottom-line" for each position. For example D6 might be 90/game, M8 might be 103/game and F6 might be 92/game.
Convert them to dollars, using $5,000/point. So: D6 = $450,000, M8 = $515,000, F6 = $460,000.
I'd be looking at a buffer of around $150,000 or more, otherwise to get your $100,000 growth, the player is getting into that dangerous trap selection zone, where you might never upgrade them. So if you're looking for a Def Stepping Stone, I'd preferably be looking at $300,000 or cheaper. A Mid Stepping Stone $365,000 or cheaper. A forward Stepping Stone $310,000 or cheaper.
These figures will vary for each person, depending on what they'll settle for from their D6/M8/F6, and what dollar improvement would be their "I'm happy with that" level.
I'm with you. If I start a Stepping Stone, I want at least $100k growth, but you'd probably wear $80k.
I thought Bonner looked ok in JLT2, and with Port's injuries he has the chance to be a decent Stepping Stone. The one proviso I'd make is, I'd only take him, if you can reach him with spare change. I wouldn't be rearranging your team, and other selections to get him in.
CEY is one i'd love to take, as I think he'll be ok, but he doesn't fit my structure. JOM, good luck to those that start him, but I think he has too many convictions/question marks.
Hey JMLP,
nope, I'm not stressed over it at all. If you are going to be overloaded/stretched in one of the bye rounds, it always better if it is the last bye round, and not the first!
I'm hoping to make a couple of slingshot trades in Rounds 13 and/or 14, which also eases that problem.
For those unfamiliar with the term, a slingshot trade is where you take a Prem/near Prem, who hasn't had his bye yet, and trade him to a Prem who has had his bye.
It's called a slingshot, as it in theory gives you an extra game from that place in your team.
Say you have JPK at M5. Round 12 has just been played. You trade JPK to Bont. Bont has had his bye. Your M5 now has a 23 game season, as JPK has played 12 games (hopefully) and Bont still has 11 to come. Some will say this is just side trading around the byes. That's accurate, to a degree. I say It depends on how you handle it, and the players involved.
nope, I'm not stressed over it at all. If you are going to be overloaded/stretched in one of the bye rounds, it always better if it is the last bye round, and not the first!
I'm hoping to make a couple of slingshot trades in Rounds 13 and/or 14, which also eases that problem.
For those unfamiliar with the term, a slingshot trade is where you take a Prem/near Prem, who hasn't had his bye yet, and trade him to a Prem who has had his bye.
It's called a slingshot, as it in theory gives you an extra game from that place in your team.
Say you have JPK at M5. Round 12 has just been played. You trade JPK to Bont. Bont has had his bye. Your M5 now has a 23 game season, as JPK has played 12 games (hopefully) and Bont still has 11 to come. Some will say this is just side trading around the byes. That's accurate, to a degree. I say It depends on how you handle it, and the players involved.
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Hey TG,
I think you are looking at it wrong. The idea is to get the Rookies into your team that will play. If that means spending a bit more, so be it. It's better to have a $190k Rookie slow burning at 60/game, than a $120k Rookie getting named emergency each week.
To that aim, there is no maximum you should be concerned about. My team currently has 5 players priced between $150k and $230k.
Bonner looks like he might do ok, without being brilliant. I wouldn't change your structure to get him in, but if you have the loose change, why not?
I think you are looking at it wrong. The idea is to get the Rookies into your team that will play. If that means spending a bit more, so be it. It's better to have a $190k Rookie slow burning at 60/game, than a $120k Rookie getting named emergency each week.
To that aim, there is no maximum you should be concerned about. My team currently has 5 players priced between $150k and $230k.
Bonner looks like he might do ok, without being brilliant. I wouldn't change your structure to get him in, but if you have the loose change, why not?
Hi Rowsus, do you have the centre square attendances for Sydney players for the JLT games?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
no I don't, but if you scroll through Freako's tweets around that time, I'm sure you will find them.
To be honest, I think they are a little overrated as a stat. Just because you attended a Centre Bounce, doesn't mean you got near the ball. That was partly Yeo's problem last year, when playing on the ball. Also, look at Salem. Attended more CBA's in the JLT than anyone else at Melbourne, but his scores were mediocre. It might give you a small insight into the Coaches thinking, but I wouldn't be basing any selections in my team on them.
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Thanks for your take Row. I am just interested in seeing Callum Mills stats compared to other Sydney players. He is in my backline atm. Good luck this year Row.
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Cash in the Bank
How important is the amount of cash you have leftover in the bank heading into Round 1?
Is it a good idea to have some left over, or does it not really matter?
I'm playing around with a few structures, one has $4k left over (not enough?) and the other has $123k left over (too much?)
Cheers Row
How important is the amount of cash you have leftover in the bank heading into Round 1?
Is it a good idea to have some left over, or does it not really matter?
I'm playing around with a few structures, one has $4k left over (not enough?) and the other has $123k left over (too much?)
Cheers Row
Cheers for the response - I'd have the numbers a little different to you though!
I'd pick Kelly instead of Ablett, who I'd put down for an average of 115 (instead of the 120 you have listed). And wouldn't ya be more likely to use Ablett's captaincy around 6-8 times instead of 4? (side note - wouldn't the captaincy scores I use for him also work out to a higher average than the 135 I have projected for him considering it would exclude scores that are presumably less than 135? ie the captain difference could be 140-120=20 instead of 135-120=15)
So I'd have the equation more like 8(135-115) + 6(20)=280 points better off.
And that's just off 8 games! There's a good chance he'll last beyond that.
I'd pick Kelly instead of Ablett, who I'd put down for an average of 115 (instead of the 120 you have listed). And wouldn't ya be more likely to use Ablett's captaincy around 6-8 times instead of 4? (side note - wouldn't the captaincy scores I use for him also work out to a higher average than the 135 I have projected for him considering it would exclude scores that are presumably less than 135? ie the captain difference could be 140-120=20 instead of 135-120=15)
So I'd have the equation more like 8(135-115) + 6(20)=280 points better off.
And that's just off 8 games! There's a good chance he'll last beyond that.
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