Discussion 2019: Super Early Player & SC Game Change Discussion

[Connoisseur]

J Short will be a player to strongly consider starting next year.

Avg since Rd10: 99.88 from 8 (low of 86 and a high of 114, 4/8 below 100, 2/8 below 95)

Averaging 20.4 disposals in 2018.
Avg when disposals equal/exceed 21: 93.38 from 8 (low of 64 and a high of 114, 5/8 below 100, 3/8 below 90)
Avg when disposals below 21: 81.89 from 9 (low of 50 and a high of 105, 8/9 below 100, 6/9 below 90)

75.5% of his disposals are by foot.

Is currently ranked
1st for metres gained
7th for total kicks
10th for rebound 50's

Potential to increase time on Ground in 2019: 2018 Time on Ground: 79%

 

[Herbie66]

J Short will be a player to strongly consider starting next year.

Avg since Rd10: 99.88 from 8 (low of 86 and a high of 114, 4/8 below 100, 2/8 below 95)

Averaging 20.4 disposals in 2018.
Avg when disposals equal/exceed 21: 93.38 from 8 (low of 64 and a high of 114, 5/8 below 100, 3/8 below 90)
Avg when disposals below 21: 81.89 from 9 (low of 50 and a high of 105, 8/9 below 100, 6/9 below 90)

75.5% of his disposals are by foot.

Is currently ranked
1st for metres gained
7th for total kicks
10th for rebound 50's

Potential to increase time on Ground in 2019: 2018 Time on Ground: 79%

been on him for a few months now , after tonight locked in at D3.

 

[Juzzo]

Milera has looked good coming off the back flank the last few weeks , does he stay there though with Smith back ?

Always think Crows are 1 tall too many in defence and need Brown , Laird , Smith + 1 to give them run and carry , so maybe Milera and/or Seedsman

Be interesting when Smith gets back Herb, not sure. They've rotated a few through that running role this year, but Milera catches the eye when he puts the foot down. He can evade, has blistering speed and very good disposal and from what I can see makes pretty good decisions too.

 

[Connoisseur]

been on him for a few months now , after tonight locked in at D3.

Vying for the D4 spot with J Crisp for 2019 as it looks very likely that my D1 to D3 will be R Laird, S Docherty and Z Williams.

As mentioned above J Crisp will be another player to consider starting in 2019.

Avg since Rd8: 107 from 9 (low of 92 and a high of 119, 3/9 below 100, 1/9 below 95, 6/9 100+, 5/9 110+)

Only 3 matches below 85 for the season and 9 over 95.

Averaging 23.7 disposals in 2018.
Avg when disposals equal/exceed 24: 114.2 from 5 (low of 97 and a high of 128, 1/5 below 100, 4/5 110+)
Avg when disposals below 24: 90.55 from 11 (low of 65 and a high of 117, 8/11 below 100, 2/11 110+)
12/16 games with 21 or more disposals: 104.83 from 12 (low of 78 and a high of 128, 5/12 below 100, 1/12 below 89, 6/12 110+)

57.24% of his disposals are by foot.
Contested possession rate of 34.82%.
2018 Time on Ground: 88%

Also very durable as he has currently played 82 consecutive games.

 

[Herbie66]

Be interesting when Smith gets back Herb, not sure. They've rotated a few through that running role this year, but Milera catches the eye when he puts the foot down. He can evade, has blistering n the speed and very good disposal and from what I can see makes pretty good decisions too.

Think they said Smith is back playing SANFL this week so we may see him back in the senior side before th.e end of the season.

You are spot on about Milera though , adds a different dimension

 

[Herbie66]

Vying for the D4 spot with J Crisp for 2019 as it looks very likely that my D1 to D3 will be R Laird, S Docherty and Z Williams.

As mentioned above J Crisp will be another player to consider starting in 2019.

Avg since Rd8: 107 from 9 (low of 92 and a high of 119, 3/9 below 100, 1/9 below 95, 6/9 100+, 5/9 110+)

Only 3 matches below 85 for the season and 9 over 95.

Averaging 23.7 disposals in 2018.
Avg when disposals equal/exceed 24: 114.2 from 5 (low of 97 and a high of 128, 1/5 below 100, 4/5 110+)
Avg when disposals below 24: 90.55 from 11 (low of 65 and a high of 117, 8/11 below 100, 2/11 110+)
12/16 games with 21 or more disposals: 104.83 from 12 (low of 78 and a high of 128, 5/12 below 100, 1/12 below 89, 6/12 110+)

57.24% of his disposals are by foot.
Contested possession rate of 34.82%.
2018 Time on Ground: 88%

Also very durable as he has currently played 82 consecutive games.

Yes depending on starting price and recovery Doc and Zac Attack are lockity locks for me.

Hopefully the defensive rookies appear so I can go 3-0-5 if not Andrews will more than likely my D4.

 

[Herbie66]

keen to see the Scottish suitcase on TV tonight , hoping he keeps his F/M status for 2019.

 

[Connoisseur]

keen to see the Scottish suitcase on TV tonight , hoping he keeps his F/M status for 2019.

H McCluggage:
2017 Contested Possession Rate: 27.2%
2018 Contested Possession Rate: 37.28%

2017 Tackles Per Game: 2
2018 Tackles Per Game: 3.13

2017 Time on Ground Avg: 78.39%
2018 Time on Ground Avg: 79.69% ( if you remove the injury affected game it increases to 82.27%)

Averaging 18.94 disposals in 2018:
Avg when disposals equal/exceed 19: 100.83 from 6 (low of 78 and a high of 130, 4/6 below 100, 1/6 below 90, 2/6 110+)

Avg when disposals below 19: 61.6 from 10 (low of 28 and a high of 86, 7/10 below 80)

 

[Herbie66]

Whitfield would have to be a lock if he gets Defender status

 

[Herbie66]

Dunkley also now on the watchlist (hoping Bont , Danger & Dusty don't get F/M status.

Pretty sure Thanh had him earmarked as one to watch this preseason.

 

[Herbie66]

Dixon will definitely NOT be on my watchlist for next season.

 

[Beijing_Sting]

I would like to be rewarded for following the games and being an active player. Would appreciate being able to switch in and out unplayed players AND any still playing players, into and out of the e position.

Sure, once they have played, then lock them in, but if still playing and stinking it up in 3rd quarter or injured in first, swap with a live E. I would like the ability to get online and switch if I still have a non played with a current playing player in reserve.

Sounds more fun to me.

Cheers

 

[Bermi]

I would like to be rewarded for following the games and being an active player. Would appreciate being able to switch in and out unplayed players AND any still playing players, into and out of the e position.

Sure, once they have played, then lock them in, but if still playing and stinking it up in 3rd quarter or injured in first, swap with a live E. I would like the ability to get online and switch if I still have a non played with a current playing player in reserve.

Sounds more fun to me.

Cheers

I like your thinking Beijing_Sting , but I am not able to follow all the games, so I wouldn't be in favour, as it could give my opponent an advantage to beat me in the League games.

Maybe a compromise would be that each team starts with 18 scoring players on the field and have 4 'Interchange' players, one in each position.
So the 18 players on the field are our scoring players and the Interchange players scores are only counted if they score more then one of the players on the field, in that position.
eg. In defence, Doedee gets injured and only scored 24 pts, but the interchange player, who happened to be B. Rice scored 59 pts, so Rice's score will count and not Doedee's score.

 

[Nathan]

Looking forward to the October rule change announcements and trying to figure out how they’ll impact on SC scoring.

 

[Beg2Differ]

I would like to be rewarded for following the games and being an active player. Would appreciate being able to switch in and out unplayed players AND any still playing players, into and out of the e position.

Sure, once they have played, then lock them in, but if still playing and stinking it up in 3rd quarter or injured in first, swap with a live E. I would like the ability to get online and switch if I still have a non played with a current playing player in reserve.

Sounds more fun to me.

Cheers

I like your thinking Beijing_Sting , but I am not able to follow all the games, so I wouldn't be in favour, as it could give my opponent an advantage to beat me in the League games.

Maybe a compromise would be that each team starts with 18 scoring players on the field and have 4 'Interchange' players, one in each position.
So the 18 players on the field are our scoring players and the Interchange players scores are only counted if they score more then one of the players on the field, in that position.
eg. In defence, Doedee gets injured and only scored 24 pts, but the interchange player, who happened to be B. Rice scored 59 pts, so Rice's score will count and not Doedee's score.

Understand the sentiment of the first suggestion but don’t like it as it would give an advantage to those that can follow every game and I think that would be impracticable for most.

I do like the second suggestion because it does loosely simulate the actual game where you only have 18 on field at any given time. It would allow injury affected scores to be absorbed and encourage more speculative picks and more high standard deviation players (ie key position players). I think it would result in teams looking a little more different as the season progresses. I wonder whether you would need lists of 30 players under that scenario.

 

[Bermi]

Understand the sentiment of the first suggestion but don’t like it as it would give an advantage to those that can follow every game and I think that would be impracticable for most.

I do like the second suggestion because it does loosely simulate the actual game where you only have 18 on field at any given time. It would allow injury affected scores to be absorbed and encourage more speculative picks and more high standard deviation players (ie key position players). I think it would result in teams looking a little more different as the season progresses. I wonder whether you would need lists of 30 players under that scenario.

RE: I wonder whether you would need lists of 30 players under that scenario.
Yes you would still need a list of 30 so the Cash Cows could build up the Cap.

 

[Nathan]

Understand the sentiment of the first suggestion but don’t like it as it would give an advantage to those that can follow every game and I think that would be impracticable for most.

I do like the second suggestion because it does loosely simulate the actual game where you only have 18 on field at any given time. It would allow injury affected scores to be absorbed and encourage more speculative picks and more high standard deviation players (ie key position players). I think it would result in teams looking a little more different as the season progresses. I wonder whether you would need lists of 30 players under that scenario.

Is it wrong for those that dedicate the most time to have an advantage? (devil’s advocate)

 

[randomcliche]

Is it wrong for those that dedicate the most time to have an advantage? (devil’s advocate)

Yes, this thing already eats up way to much time for the potential reward. Up the prize pool to a million and then perhaps.

 

[IDIG]

Looking forward to the October rule change announcements and trying to figure out how they’ll impact on SC scoring.

Is this the 666 starting positions they’re floating?

Someone remind me how they decide sc positions. I don’t think the proposed rule changes could have an effect on those???

 

[Nathan]

I posted before the possible lighter iteration of the 666 came out in the media.

I think the full blown starting positions (not just centre bounces) could have massive implications on players scoring in SC.

less stoppages would mean less tackels and hitouts just as a start.