Strategy Round 5: Trades

[manyproblems]

I dont get the doubt over ROB. its as simple as if sauce is injured he stays in. The article on sauce gives me 0 confidence he'll return soon, but we'll find out more before the round starts. We would need him for ideally at least 3 rounds. He makes 150k with 80s in 3 weeks.

 

[Grundogging]

That is correct...I'll have Moore & Drew at F5/6 with Balta & Bines on the bench.

IF we get news that Jacobs requires surgery before the weekend, then I may consider a more aggressive, albeit risky path for ROB.

I'm trying to get my head around this myself - would you stash O'Brien on your bench with his scoring potential?

The problem I'd have is that shifting Bines FWD would require switching Moore FWD via Burgess (Collins would take Moore's place) and I'd be left with no bench cover FWD while Setterfield, is out so I'd probably have to look for an F5/F6 type sooner than expected (Drew is at F6 after switching Moore FWD) as I can't see any or the potential upcoming cash cows being forwards.

Alternatively I've got Gawn and Nank and would consider a Nank to ROB downgrade for some quick cash gen if that works better?

Would still be a bit skinny at FWD / DEF but at least I'd have options.

 

[Darkie]

One thing to note also is his incredibly high DE over the past 3 weeks.

Buyers should be aware that this may not continue:

15 touches (13 contested, 13 effective)
16 touches (10 contested, 11 effective)
17 touches (9 contested, 15 effective)

Overall 81.25% DE with 66.67% being contested as well. Can this continue?

My biggest worry is CD seem to score heavily on DE if that dropped down he could drop down to an 80’s scorer pretty quickly.

Just something to keep in mind.

Great point. I sometimes add up the CP% and DE% as an indication of how good a rookie might be (admittedly more for mid types) given they often o***et one another ... very contested players don’t have the opportunity to use it quite as well, etc.

I consider 110% to be a pretty good total, and Marshall is running at close to 150%, with susbstantially more kicks than handballs (which makes it harder to keep the DE up, seemingly moreso for rucks!).

 

[jaca]

I'd do Balta, unless you need the extra cash from Setters and not reliant solely as bench cover.

Don’t need the cash but would leave me coverless for two weeks...

 

[jaca]

Don’t need the cash but would leave me coverless for two weeks...

I guess I could go Bines to ROB and use Setters as a my donut for a few weeks ?

 

[OzRulesFootball]

Right now most likely ins for me will be Stack and O'Brien.
Just got to decide if I trade a loophole agent in process or a Gibbons type. Burgess looks gone so will lose my DEF/MID link if I trade him.

Burgess is D/F
Butters is M only
Duursma is D/M

what is in the statue fumes ? ?

Sorry for confusion. I meant Burgess DEF/FWD that linked with Connor Rozee at other end.

If I trade Burgess for O'Brien I lose the DEF/FWD link I meant.

Never had Butters,

Duursma I do have linked with DEF/MID loophole agent Tobe Watson.

If I decide to keep Gibbons, the loophole agent is only one from mid area would trade for Stack.
But given Walsh and Constable usually very good rookie scorers in the mids, I not sure my need for Tobe Watson is that high.

I won't bother posting info in the cricket thread anymore for you either hahaha , was keen to read your reaction to the WC Squad and Australia A sides , the way it is going we will have 50 players over there.

Too upset about Patto not picked to add anything there....

Took Walsh until Round 4 to get a Rising Star nomination , those 3 other boys before him must be good ?

They are all very good. This was not called a superdraft for nothing. If you could be nominated more the once in a season, I reckon Walsh might get 15 nominations. He is that consistent already, he is a freak. Blakey for Swans looks terrific too, even if his SC scores are nothing. There is a bit of Wayne Carey in how he can mark and move. Swans got steal of draft and screwed North over big time by employing John Blakey to ensure his son could live in their academy region. Smart operators.

 

[Pieman17]

English and Balta out, do I go:

1. Mummy (R2) and O’Brien (R3)
or
2. O’Brien (R2) and Marshall (F4)

Chance of having a donut if I do option 1

 

[Bomber18]

English and Balta out, do I go:

1. Mummy (R2) and O’Brien (R3)
or
2. O’Brien (R2) and Marshall (F4)

Chance of having a donut if I do option 1

Option 2, if you can get Obrien on field..do it!

 

[Leroy]

English and Balta out, do I go:

1. Mummy (R2) and O’Brien (R3)
or
2. O’Brien (R2) and Marshall (F4)

Chance of having a donut if I do option 1

Don't let a donut dissuade you from making the trades you want. It's an F6 donut from a bunch of pretty unreliable players - might cost you 40pts.
I think English is going nowhere fast and trading sideways to Mumford is a no-brainer, especially if you can have ROB as an insurance policy as well. So I'd go for (1) personally and skip Marshall.
(I traded English for Mumford last week and am getting ROB in this week fwiw).

 

[Leroy]

Option 2, if you can get Obrien on field..do it!

Don't let a donut dissuade you from making the trades you want. It's an F6 donut from a bunch of pretty unreliable players - might cost you 40pts.
I think English is going nowhere fast and trading sideways to Mumford is a no-brainer, especially if you can have ROB as an insurance policy as well. So I'd go for (1) personally and skip Marshall.
(I traded English for Mumford last week and am getting ROB in this week fwiw).

Ha! We've given conflicting advice but with good reasons.
I have Mumford going at 100, ROB at 70 and English at 65.
I have Marshall going at 90 and a FWD rookie at 50.

So Marshall + ROB on field does look like more points than Mumford + rookie, but I have plans to turn that rookie into a cheap Tim Kelly in a few weeks, where as ROB would have to stay put at R2 for a while. Lots to think about!

 

[stephen]

I dont get the doubt over ROB. its as simple as if sauce is injured he stays in. The article on sauce gives me 0 confidence he'll return soon, but we'll find out more before the round starts. We would need him for ideally at least 3 rounds. He makes 150k with 80s in 3 weeks.

Was gonna write the same thing. We're struggling for cash and a pot of gold shows up. Grab hold!

 

[Bomber18]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1118294116649951237

 

[elzorko16]

Option 2, if you can get Obrien on field..do it!

looking to update Goldy to Grundy without interfering with other updates to complete my team, is Goldy to ROB my way of funding this with a quick cash grab if he plays next 4-5 games?

 

[Bomber18]

looking to update Goldy to Grundy without interfering with other updates to complete my team, is Goldy to ROB my way of funding this with a quick cash grab if he plays next 4-5 games?

It could be a decent risk to take, especially if you can bump a balta type to a fwd premo.

Goldy had a good draw coming up though

 

[stephen]

Waiting for the first Gawn to ROB toe in the water. Anyone?

 

[Pieman17]

Ha! We've given conflicting advice but with good reasons.
I have Mumford going at 100, ROB at 70 and English at 65.
I have Marshall going at 90 and a FWD rookie at 50.

So Marshall + ROB on field does look like more points than Mumford + rookie, but I have plans to turn that rookie into a cheap Tim Kelly in a few weeks, where as ROB would have to stay put at R2 for a while. Lots to think about!

Option 2, if you can get Obrien on field..do it!

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Obviously mummy has a fairly high scoring potential that could be huge on field but keep thinking if O’Brien can push towards an 80 odd average it could be huge to have him on field. Especially since I can take one of Setterfield/Parker of field but not fully sold on Marshall.

If I go O’Brien and Mummy option I will have over 150k in the bank to do a possible upgrade the following week if not the week after.

Got some things to think about.

 

[Pieman17]

Waiting for the first Gawn to ROB toe in the water. Anyone?

If you had an obvious upgrade to make I’d probably do it. Basically all the forward options have some question marks around them that makes it too risky for me personally as forwards at my problem area.

If you had 3 def rookies on field. I’d go something like Gawn and def rookie to O’Brien and Lloyd. Could backfire real quick though.

 

[elzorko16]

It could be a decent risk to take, especially if you can bump a balta type to a fwd premo.

Goldy had a good draw coming up though

My plan was always to upgrade Goldy to Grundy, hoping Grundy may have started slower and price between them may have closed.

 

[Bermi]

It's interesting this has been mentioned. At times on the weekend he looked to be lacking impetus to his game ... you do sometimes see that from absolute stars (they can't run hard all game) but I wasn't sure if it was warranted from his prior efforts (maybe not ) or just the way that he plays, more of a laconic kind of style.
I actually hadn't really considered he may be carrying an injury, but for someone who has played over 100 games straight I'm not sure that should be a huge surprise. I think one of the things you have to be able to do to play that many games, is to play through injuries. Maybe he's lacking motivation and/or fitness right now.

Does anyone who knows his play better have a view?

Regarding: …….Maybe he's lacking motivation and/or fitness right now...…..

To me, watching the AFL games this year, the game seems to be played at a faster pace. Maybe that is normal at the start of a season? Or due to the new AFL 6-6-6 rules? If the game is quicker, and a slow Westhoff is playing on the wing, then I can see why he is not scoring well.

Anyway, what ever the reason is for Westhoff to have scored 3 below 50 scores in a row, that says something is very wrong and time to move him on.

 

[Monya Meow Meow]

So instead of doing Parker/Butters > Stack/Marshall, I can grab O'Brien/Marshall instead with a bit of DPP shuffling.
Bines to FWD & Setters to MID, obviously no forward bench which makes it a bit risky.

I am not as confident on Marshall as some of you are but fairly confident he will outscore my poorest FWD rookie by quite a bit and he is really the only forward option I can afford at the moment.

Thoughts or is there something else I should be doing? Thanks.