Strategy Round 5: Trades

How many trades have you used before making any in Round 5?

  • 6

    Votes: 6 4.0%
  • 5

    Votes: 7 4.7%
  • 4

    Votes: 27 18.1%
  • 3

    Votes: 32 21.5%
  • 2

    Votes: 37 24.8%
  • 1

    Votes: 25 16.8%
  • 0

    Votes: 15 10.1%

  • Total voters
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Fair to say I went on holiday at a fairly inopportune time - limited focus and patchy internet saw me miss a few lockouts, no trades for two weeks etc.... Ranking has slipped from 120 to 8,000 or so. Ah well

Can anyone let me know if there's any must have rookies I need to focus on? Concerns with T.Kelly, Heeney, etc?
Great, I'm behind someone who hasn't even looked at their team in weeks! :p
 
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Fair to say I went on holiday at a fairly inopportune time - limited focus and patchy internet saw me miss a few lockouts, no trades for two weeks etc.... Ranking has slipped from 120 to 8,000 or so. Ah well

Can anyone let me know if there's any must have rookies I need to focus on? Concerns with T.Kelly, Heeney, etc?
O'Brien (Ruc), must (Jacobs got knee surgery and is out for 4-6); Stack (M), maybe; Hore (D) maybe (yes, it's been a long few weeks).
T Kelly no long-term concern - hurt ankle at end of RD3 game and either that or De Boer attention (or some other more ephemeral malaise) caused him to have a shocker last week.
There are articles about Heeney being in doubt after getting a knock to the hip late in the game last week, but I for one think it's a bit of bs and he'll be fine to play. Some may disagree.
Setterfield suspended for 2 weeks. Parker hurt ankle last week and is in doubt. Some are saying Drew might be dropped but seems a bit weird to me. Balta always on the edge of being dropped. That's the reason for donut concern in forward line.
 

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Thanks. Would prefer to keep Setterfield as I'm more confident on his scoring ability and cash generation in comparison to some of the other rookies.

If Scott isn't named this week then my preference would be him to ROB as it allows me to keep Butters meaning I wouldn't have to field one of T Atkins or M Gibbons if the move was completed via Setterfield's DPP plus I would have Burgess as cover if D Moore/I Heeney/ M Parker miss whilst W Setterfield misses.

Also the complex Butters to ROB move via X Duursma and C Burgess is very appealing but it means I have no cover in the forward line until Setterfield returns but it allows more flexibility for future trades such as S Collins to J Hately.
I think that makes sense. Scott was listed as rested last week which indicates that they like him and intend to play him. He also played one week with an illness of some sort so I think his scoring capacity/JS may be slightly underestimated of that is not front of mind (although I’m not expecting round one scores!). If he misses this week then it’s very difficult to argue that my interpretation is correct, in which case a reassessment is probably warranted.
 

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Anyone else thinking about doing something crazy with me. I have 30 trades still and my team is good but nothing too exciting sitting in 20,000th

Gawn -> ROB.

Let me explain, as it seems crazy. I can see ROB scoring 80-90. Say Gawn stays at his 110 average. We are losing 20-30 points a week and a captain option but also Gawn will be losing a slight bit of cash (10-30k) while ROB hopefully hits 350k.

The main benefit here is with the trade I have 700k+ to play with now. That means Balta to R Marshall as F5 and next week Clark to J Lloyd.

Gawn/Parker/Clark = 110, 60, 55 = 225
ROB/Marshall/Lloyd = 80, 90, 110 = 280.

A gain of 55 points per week and cash generation, there are 3 main dangers though.

1. Gawn goes 135+, increases price and proves any ROB gains basically ineffective. Very possible with matchups against Marshall and Nank to come in the next two weeks.
2. ROB/Marshall fail and revert to Z Clarke/Dunkley equivalent selections.
3. If ROB gets injured in the next week or two it’s going to be very hard to turn him into anything significant without burning another two trades.

Thoughts? Has my lack of trading all year sent me loopy?
I think this analysis may be attributing the benefits of cash you already have (ex the Gawn trade) to that trade. I think this needs to be stripped out if you just want to assess the merits of that trade.
 
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O'Brien (Ruc), must (Jacobs got knee surgery and is out for 4-6); Stack (M), maybe; Hore (D) maybe (yes, it's been a long few weeks).
T Kelly no long-term concern - hurt ankle at end of RD3 game and either that or De Boer attention (or some other more ephemeral malaise) caused him to have a shocker last week.
There are articles about Heeney being in doubt after getting a knock to the hip late in the game last week, but I for one think it's a bit of bs and he'll be fine to play. Some may disagree.
Setterfield suspended for 2 weeks. Parker hurt ankle last week and is in doubt. Some are saying Drew might be dropped but seems a bit weird to me. Balta always on the edge of being dropped. That's the reason for donut concern in forward line.
Legend. Many thanks.
 

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I think that makes sense. Scott was listed as rested last week which indicates that they like him and intend to play him. He also played one week with an illness of some sort so I think his scoring capacity/JS may be slightly underestimated of that is not front of mind (although I’m not expecting round one scores!). If he misses this week then it’s very difficult to argue that my interpretation is correct, in which case a reassessment is probably warranted.
Thanks. Wish Setterfield hadn't missed as it would have made the whole situation easier as I could have executed the Butters to O'Brien trade whilst maintaining fwd cover but oh well. Will be eagerly awaiting team selections tonight.
 
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O’Brien definitely coming in.

Likely through Parker, but I’m open to dropping Gawn and fielding him. The cash would allow me to get a Burgess type up to Lloyd/Boak.
 
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I come with a couple of scenarios.

This is my team currently:
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2 trades used so far.

If Butters is dropped I'm pretty certain on bringing in Stack - 140 from the trade, giving me 243k.

Here's where I'm unsure.

I can either use my second trade to do Setterfield to Marshall, leaving me with 30k in the bank.

This would give me the ability to move a forward rookie off-field, looking like:
Drew (Parker, Balta)

Or, I could go Setterfield to O'Brien via Bines and giving me 300k for next week, looking like:
Parker, Drew (Bines, Balta)

If it's relevant, I'm going for overall and currently ranked 38k.

This is a big conundrum... so would love some guidance one way or another!
 
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I come with a couple of scenarios.

This is my team currently:

2 trades used so far.

If Butters is dropped I'm pretty certain on bringing in Stack - 140 from the trade, giving me 243k.

Here's where I'm unsure.

I can either use my second trade to do Setterfield to Marshall, leaving me with 30k in the bank.

This would give me the ability to move a forward rookie off-field, looking like:
Drew (Parker, Balta)

Or, I could go Setterfield to O'Brien via Bines and giving me 300k for next week, looking like:
Parker, Drew (Bines, Balta)

If it's relevant, I'm going for overall and currently ranked 38k.

This is a big conundrum... so would love some guidance one way or another!
A boring answer but you need to know teams before you can decide. It's crazy to trade yourself into a donut but long-term I think it might be crazy to pass on O'Brien. If Parker is named I think the second option is best. But if not, you might have to get creative or say goodbye to O'Brien.
 

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That’s my logic, here’s hoping! I’ll assess the damage when I land
I think this may be a reasonable approach, but it may be worth considering whether Stack, ROB or others are potentially almost as attractive in your view, but with lower risk. Trading in a donut is not the end of the world but it can be frustrating!
 
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A boring answer but you need to know teams before you can decide. It's crazy to trade yourself into a donut but long-term I think it might be crazy to pass on O'Brien. If Parker is named I think the second option is best. But if not, you might have to get creative or say goodbye to O'Brien.
I want to know now! :p very fair though. Can't help but feel that Bines on the forward bench is running face first into an oncoming wall... but may need to do it anyway.
 

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Only way I get ROB is by bypassing Marshall. Who do we think is the better option for our teams?
ROB is a must imo. If you look at the worst case FOMO scenarios, Marshall continues average 100, he probably gets to around $500k-$510, still gettable. ROB continues to average 85, he makes ~$300k!

Marshall will have a down game against Gawn this week anyway and might still be around $430-440k next week, if you're confident he's going to average 100, still gettable.
 

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If I was an owner I would not be trading Westhoff unless he dishes up these poor scores again with Marshall back in the side.

Marshall will be playing this week meaning Hoff can roam more and collect his uncontested possessions.


Westhoff has had the following scores against West Coast in recent times:

86
85
136
92

For a 100 average.
Nailed it!


I think you have to hold!
 

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Only way I get ROB is by bypassing Marshall. Who do we think is the better option for our teams?
I think Marshall needs to be a good keeper for it to even be close. Personally I think the odds of that are very low, but you’ll have a view on that, and I think it’s the crux of the question.

I haven’t checked forecast pricing but other forwards could be getting cheap. If we get a second wave of rookies mid year then ROB’s cash is less important, but having a weak keeper could be an even bigger drag than normal.
 

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I think Marshall needs to be a good keeper for it to even be close. Personally I think the odds of that are very low, but you’ll have a view on that, and I think it’s the crux of the question.

I haven’t checked forecast pricing but other forwards could be getting cheap. If we get a second wave of rookies mid year then ROB’s cash is less important, but having a weak keeper could be an even bigger drag than normal.
Don't quite agree with this.

I think it's too late to be waiting til after mid season to fully upgrade your side, if you're gunning for a good overall score. Fast cash generation is key to quick upgrades and getting rookies off the field asap. ROB definitely necessary to achieve that purpose. We're already seeing the fwd rookies really struggle, not sure how much longer the mid rookies can last too (Butters dropped a shocker, Constable had a down game). Cash is needed sooner rather than later to afford those top bracket guys like Lloyd, Macrae, Neale prior to the byes as well.

All in all, ROB is a must in my books. I'd try to find a way to fit him in, wouldn't eat a donut to get him but I'd risk an iffy fwd bench to fit him in. (I will have Parker/Bines myself).
 
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